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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Nov 8, 2011 11:43:59 GMT -8
Ticket prices are largely decided upon by the promoters and venues. The artist's ability to give us cheaper tickets mainly lies in agreeing or not agreeing to do shows in certain venues. When you are a popular band you have to make the choice between wanting to give more fans the chance to see you in a larger venue or going with a smaller venue and possibly cheaper tickets, but then limiting the number of fans who can go. 10-20 years ago it was easier for big bands to circumvent the corporate juggernaut the concert industry has become, but now it is pretty hard with promoters owning most venues (Livenation). I'm not saying the artist is 100% innocent, but really their job is to create the art and entertainment we love. I think that sometimes that is perhaps taken for granted. Coming up with the art, rehearsing it, and needing to preform it every night to a high standard seems to get very overlooked or perhaps people just think it's a cake walk. Try doing your job, doing a good job and then needing to worry about a whole 'nuther aspect (that isn't your specialty or your job) all while consistently keeping things going super well at your main job. That is hard for anyone and when you are dealing with large high cost sets, crews, many dates in many cities around the world and large attendance numbers I can see why it is hard to also fight tooth and nail against a company who has virtually all control of the industry. Just something to think about. Just to be clear, I thinks this sucks and stinks and blows and is aweful, but blaming the artist doesn't seem to be the solution nor the main part of this problem. |
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Post by Fig on Nov 8, 2011 11:58:45 GMT -8
I'm mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore
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Post by know ID yuh on Nov 8, 2011 12:01:10 GMT -8
you might just think, "you know what, I don't feel like sitting in the nose bleeds with a bunch of kids in their early 20s drunk and high on drugs making fun of each other and talking about their Facebook pages (or whatever annoying habits youngsters of the future will have). I want to be close enough to see the band. This is a big deal for me, I can afford to treat myself." Totally behind this minus the U2 bit. Can't wait to be rich and buy VIP passes to shows so I don't have to put up with assholes clapping at terrible times or waving camera phones in my face. Well, U2 was specific to Stamper, since he is a U2 superfan. I suppose I could have said "20 years from now when the Pains of Being Pure At Heart are reuiniting..." |
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Post by Pea on Nov 8, 2011 12:07:55 GMT -8
Of course I had to be listening to them when you posted that. Get out of my head, Know.
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Post by interstateeight on Nov 8, 2011 12:15:08 GMT -8
Totally behind this minus the U2 bit. Can't wait to be rich and buy VIP passes to shows so I don't have to put up with assholes clapping at terrible times or waving camera phones in my face. Well, U2 was specific to Stamper, since he is a U2 superfan. I suppose I could have said "20 years from now when the Pains of Being Pure At Heart are reuiniting..." I'm into that band but I don't think I've formed enough of a connection for what you're describing here. Maybe Explosions in the Sky works better. |
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Post by know ID yuh on Nov 8, 2011 12:15:43 GMT -8
Of course I had to be listening to them when you posted that. Get out of my head, Know. Well, that was specific to I8, since he is a superfan of weak shit. I suppose I could have said "20 years from now when Coheed & Cambria are reuiniting..." |
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Nov 8, 2011 12:16:24 GMT -8
You are on fire!
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Post by Pea on Nov 8, 2011 12:17:55 GMT -8
Of course I had to be listening to them when you posted that. Get out of my head, Know. Well, that was specific to Weak Shit Superfan, since he is a superfan of weak shit. I suppose I could have said "20 years from now when Coheed & Cambria are reuiniting..." I'll be there with bells on. |
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Post by Lump on Nov 8, 2011 20:13:00 GMT -8
So if given the chance to see Jeff Mangum, I'm sure I will, but everything I've seen is just an acoustic set. I would like to see Neutral Milk Hotel, the horns and drums and everything, whole production. THAT would be killer. Was worried I was the only one who felt this way. |
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Nov 9, 2011 6:41:47 GMT -8
I saw Stomp last night. Fuck yeah!
Man this past week has been making my hair go gray over tickets and shows.
I procrastinated on my Feist tickets, but then luckily picked up some. Then Prince said he's coming to Edmonton out of nowhere, so I have tickets for that (at a very pretty penny, but really no complaints, it is fucking Prince after all). Then stupid Roger Waters announces he is of course bringing his stupid best concert ever to town on the the same stupid day as Sasquatch.
Choosing Sasquatch over Waters is still a no brainer for me, but it would be nice to see that stupid Wall show and all of its stupid tricks.
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Post by Cbats on Nov 9, 2011 6:50:16 GMT -8
So if given the chance to see Jeff Mangum, I'm sure I will, but everything I've seen is just an acoustic set. I would like to see Neutral Milk Hotel, the horns and drums and everything, whole production. THAT would be killer. Was worried I was the only one who felt this way. No, I more or less agree but like drew said, I'm going to see this anyway cause it's the only thing that's an option right now. Mangum apparently said he was hoping to tour with some of the other guys in the near future so it's possible that will happen sometime soon |
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Post by stamper on Nov 9, 2011 7:40:05 GMT -8
it's highly unlikely that i'd ever pay that much money for a concert ticket, but i still don't have much of a problem with it. I mean, it's the fucking WALL. I wouldn't say it's highly unlikely for you. 20 years from now, when U2 announces their first tour in nine years, and they are coming through your town, you might just think, "you know what, I don't feel like sitting in the nose bleeds with a bunch of kids in their early 20s drunk and high on drugs making fun of each other and talking about their Facebook pages (or whatever annoying habits youngsters of the future will have). I want to be close enough to see the band. This is a big deal for me, I can afford to treat myself." Besides, I'm not sure what the logistics were behind your trip to NYC to see LCD Soundsystem, but unless travel and lodging was free, you probably ended up paying more than $434 for the two tickets. very fair argument, Know. in all honestly, i think the LCD tickets were in the region of $75 each (but i could be wrong)... then with hotel, gas and food, i think we both averaged just under $300 for the whole weekend. still, we could have just gone to NY the day of the show and left the next day, saving us each about $100 in hotel fees --- but we chose to hang out with some friends of ours in NY all weekend long. so i'm not sure if that really counts. it's a grey area, i think. now, would i pay over $200 to see a U2 reunion concert in twenty years? it's tough to say. actually, no it isn't. i probably would pay that much. but i think that falls into the 'highly unlikely' exception that i mentioned before. don't you think? maybe this is just semantics, but to me, UNLIKELY doesn't mean NEVER. it just means UNLIKELY or DOUBTFUL. you just happened to name one of the very limited exceptions to my rule. still, it's also a hypothetical scenario and is not guaranteed to happen. so it's tricky. |
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Post by wompwomp on Nov 9, 2011 7:53:48 GMT -8
I don't see any problem with charging $200 for tickets. People are obviously willing to pay it, so who cares? Supply and demand folks.
Stamper did you buy those LCD tickets from an actual vendor or a scalper? I tried to get tickets when they actually went on sale but they were sold out super fast if I remember correctly.
So if a band sells tickets at below "market" value, there is some value created then for Scalpers and you're dealing with the whole secondary market issue. Personally, I would rather the money go to the artists rather than scum of the earth scalpers.
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Post by stamper on Nov 9, 2011 8:01:14 GMT -8
I don't see any problem with charging $200 for tickets. nor do i. i bought mine on ticketmaster. i logged in at exactly 10:00:00 am. by 10:06 they were mine. i was one of the lucky ones. great seats, too! |
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Post by know ID yuh on Nov 9, 2011 9:21:27 GMT -8
I wouldn't say it's highly unlikely for you. 20 years from now, when U2 announces their first tour in nine years, and they are coming through your town, you might just think, "you know what, I don't feel like sitting in the nose bleeds with a bunch of kids in their early 20s drunk and high on drugs making fun of each other and talking about their Facebook pages (or whatever annoying habits youngsters of the future will have). I want to be close enough to see the band. This is a big deal for me, I can afford to treat myself." Besides, I'm not sure what the logistics were behind your trip to NYC to see LCD Soundsystem, but unless travel and lodging was free, you probably ended up paying more than $434 for the two tickets. now, would i pay over $200 to see a U2 reunion concert in twenty years? it's tough to say. actually, no it isn't. i probably would pay that much. but i think that falls into the 'highly unlikely' exception that i mentioned before. don't you think? maybe this is just semantics, but to me, UNLIKELY doesn't mean NEVER. it just means UNLIKELY or DOUBTFUL. you just happened to name one of the very limited exceptions to my rule. still, it's also a hypothetical scenario and is not guaranteed to happen. so it's tricky. I don't think unlikely or doubtful is very accurate for a lot of us here. It's fair to say this board is mostly comprised of intelligent people, and that 20 years from now, most of us will be considered "wealthy" and will still have a love of music and live shows. Dropping $200+ on a floor ticket for a band you enjoy, but aren't necessarily obsessed with, will probably be a no brainer over spending half that for a bloody nose. I'm sure 85% of the people who bought Roger Water floor tickets never even considered the price. Like Weak Shit said, "Can't wait to be rich and buy VIP passes to shows..." There's a little bit of this in all of us. |
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Post by Pea on Nov 9, 2011 9:48:06 GMT -8
$200 is more than reasonable for that "once in a lifetime" concert experience. Have any of you SEEN that fucking wall?? deadmau5 weeps at the sight of it.
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Post by davers on Nov 9, 2011 14:42:14 GMT -8
Empty I have a single ticket for M83 if you are interested. My brother couldnt get his shift covered so it's yours if you want it. The easiest way to get it to you would probably just be to meet before the show since I am in Ft Nelson until Friday, unless you want to meet up on Friday. I'll be downtown for the Arkells show if you would rather that.
I'll PM you my phone number for meeting somewhere.
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Post by emptyfox on Nov 9, 2011 17:16:12 GMT -8
Fuck I'm so conflicted right now.
The girlfriend and I have plans now for Saturday and also she has just started loving m83 this week. I would be an asshole for ditching her and going to this show without her so it's not looking good.
FUCK
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Post by wompwomp on Nov 9, 2011 17:18:05 GMT -8
Ha ha, Prince just added a Calgary show. December 13th. Amazing. Really glad he did that after all the other tour dates went on sale and I bought tickets to two other shows.
I'll be selling my Edmonton tickets then if any of you Edmonton folk are interested.
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Post by Pea on Nov 9, 2011 17:20:22 GMT -8
Fuck I'm so conflicted right now. The girlfriend and I have plans now for Saturday and also she has just started loving m83 this week. I would be an asshole for ditching her and going to this show without her so it's not looking good. FUCK I really have no fucking clue why we didn't turn this show into a "Pea visits for the weekend" experience when tickets first went on sale. What the effffff foxy. |
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