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Post by Cbats on Nov 7, 2011 13:22:48 GMT -8
Guess I'm going to see Jeff Mangum in February.
Also, Polica tonight. They don't have an album out yet but it's a bunch of the people from Gayngs' new project so it should be pretty cool. The reports from the few shows they've played so far have been really encouraging
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Post by Drew on Nov 7, 2011 16:18:26 GMT -8
So if given the chance to see Jeff Mangum, I'm sure I will, but everything I've seen is just an acoustic set. I would like to see Neutral Milk Hotel, the horns and drums and everything, whole production. THAT would be killer.
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Post by know ID yuh on Nov 7, 2011 21:57:14 GMT -8
Fuck Radiohead, I got Roger Waters floors tickets today. Yum
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Post by Geoff on Nov 7, 2011 22:04:38 GMT -8
Fuck Radiohead, I got Roger Waters floors tickets today. Yum How much were those? |
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Post by know ID yuh on Nov 7, 2011 22:17:24 GMT -8
Fuck Radiohead, I got Roger Waters floors tickets today. Yum How much were those? $217 a ticket. I had never paid more than $100 for a show six months ago. Sometimes you have to treat yourself, like Aziz says. |
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Post by Geoff on Nov 7, 2011 22:19:29 GMT -8
$217 a ticket. I had never paid more than $100 for a show six months ago. Sometimes you have to treat yourself, like Aziz says. Agh. I was hoping that the $99 tickets were the floor ones. |
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Post by Cysquatch on Nov 7, 2011 22:22:14 GMT -8
That shit is ridiculous. I can't even respect an artist that will allow those prices.
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Post by know ID yuh on Nov 7, 2011 23:02:14 GMT -8
That shit is ridiculous. I can't even respect an artist that will allow those prices. I don't think any form of Pink Floyd cares if you respect them. Musicians who have been around for 40+ years are allowed to charge a gigantic sum, usually because their fan base isn't comprised of little kids bitching about prices. |
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Post by know ID yuh on Nov 7, 2011 23:05:52 GMT -8
$217 a ticket. I had never paid more than $100 for a show six months ago. Sometimes you have to treat yourself, like Aziz says. Agh. I was hoping that the $99 tickets were the floor ones. You might be able to get $99 endzone tickets. You just have to sign up on Roger Waters' website. The presale floor seats are sold out, but the $99 tickets might still be available. General tickets go on sale a week from now. |
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Post by Cysquatch on Nov 8, 2011 7:22:27 GMT -8
Actually when I was a "little kid" I would have happily paid whatever amount of money I could have came up with to se The Wall live. I have become more sensible with age. I've always thought pretty highly of Pink Floyd. Seniority and popularity does not give them an excuse to rip off their fans. Many real fans are not going to be able to afford the price of tickets. I know there will be fans that can afford to go, but I think the audience will be full of rich kids that don't give a fuck about how much money they spend. I've heard you argue points regarding ticket prices on several occasions.
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Post by Pea on Nov 8, 2011 7:25:48 GMT -8
If I was another member of Pink Floyd I'd be all like hellllllll nawww.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Nov 8, 2011 7:29:28 GMT -8
I'm pretty sure the artist has little say in ticket prices for shows like this.
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Post by interstateeight on Nov 8, 2011 9:49:10 GMT -8
It's fucking Pink Floyd. Get that shit out of here. |
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Post by Cysquatch on Nov 8, 2011 10:47:39 GMT -8
I can't believe I even a to argue the point that charging $217 for a show that last one evening is acceptable. I want to convince my self that it is alright, but I can't. I would really like to go myself. If it wasn't on a week day I would probably give in, but it is also a little out of the way for me. It could be a once in a life time experience.
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Post by know ID yuh on Nov 8, 2011 10:50:22 GMT -8
Actually when I was a "little kid" I would have happily paid whatever amount of money I could have came up with to se The Wall live. I have become more sensible with age. I've always thought pretty highly of Pink Floyd. Seniority and popularity does not give them an excuse to rip off their fans. Many real fans are not going to be able to afford the price of tickets. I know there will be fans that can afford to go, but I think the audience will be full of rich kids that don't give a fuck about how much money they spend. I've heard you argue points regarding ticket prices on several occasions. I've never considered my parents generation to be "rich kids who don't give a fuck about how much money they spend," but I suppose I could where you are coming from. Generally speaking, people get wealthier the older they get, so they have more money to see bands they grew up listening to, therefore the bands who create music that is still relevant 40 years later generally can charge much more money for tickets because their fan base is comprised mostly of "rich kids." But these "rich kids" are people who go to shows a couple times a year, so these shows are special occasions. It's like taking your wife to a fancy restaurant on your anniversary. You don't leave the restaurant cursing the chef for making such delicious food that you had to pay more than had you gone to Red Robin, just like you don't leave a Roger Waters show cursing him for creating such outstanding music that you had to pay more than had you gone to see Skrillex. If you are going to lose all respect for Pink Floyd because of the ticket prices, you might as well stop respecting Leonard Cohen, Paul McCartney, Neil Diamond, and to a lesser extent, Prince, Jimmy Buffet, Tony Bennett, Bruce Springsteen, and every other LEGEND who charges a pretty penny for their shows. Legends are assholes. |
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Post by stamper on Nov 8, 2011 10:52:38 GMT -8
it's highly unlikely that i'd ever pay that much money for a concert ticket, but i still don't have much of a problem with it. I mean, it's the fucking WALL.
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Post by Cysquatch on Nov 8, 2011 11:04:37 GMT -8
Know you make some very good points. However, usually going to an expensive restaurant is splurging for an occasion. What is the likelihood you leave satisfied in that case. I have no doubt anybody going to that show will leave unsatisfied.
It is The Wall. Pink Floyd is one of my bucket list bands, but because of timing, price, etc it is a little much for me. I am doing my best to keep from talking myself into going my self. Maybe one of those $99 tickets.
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Post by know ID yuh on Nov 8, 2011 11:35:21 GMT -8
it's highly unlikely that i'd ever pay that much money for a concert ticket, but i still don't have much of a problem with it. I mean, it's the fucking WALL. I wouldn't say it's highly unlikely for you. 20 years from now, when U2 announces their first tour in nine years, and they are coming through your town, you might just think, "you know what, I don't feel like sitting in the nose bleeds with a bunch of kids in their early 20s drunk and high on drugs making fun of each other and talking about their Facebook pages (or whatever annoying habits youngsters of the future will have). I want to be close enough to see the band. This is a big deal for me, I can afford to treat myself." Besides, I'm not sure what the logistics were behind your trip to NYC to see LCD Soundsystem, but unless travel and lodging was free, you probably ended up paying more than $434 for the two tickets. |
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Post by interstateeight on Nov 8, 2011 11:39:44 GMT -8
you might just think, "you know what, I don't feel like sitting in the nose bleeds with a bunch of kids in their early 20s drunk and high on drugs making fun of each other and talking about their Facebook pages (or whatever annoying habits youngsters of the future will have). I want to be close enough to see the band. This is a big deal for me, I can afford to treat myself." Totally behind this minus the U2 bit. Can't wait to be rich and buy VIP passes to shows so I don't have to put up with assholes clapping at terrible times or waving camera phones in my face. |
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Nov 8, 2011 11:40:55 GMT -8
Ticket prices are largely decided upon by the promoters and venues. The artist's ability to give us cheaper tickets mainly lies in agreeing or not agreeing to do shows in certain venues. When you are a popular band you have to make the choice between wanting to give more fans the chance to see you in a larger venue or going with a smaller venue and possibly cheaper tickets, but then limiting the number of fans who can go. 10-20 years ago it was easier for big bands to circumvent the corporate juggernaut the concert industry has become, but now it is pretty hard with promoters owning most venues (Livenation).
I'm not saying the artist is 100% innocent, but really their job is to create the art and entertainment we love. I think that sometimes that is perhaps taken for granted. Coming up with the art, rehearsing it, and needing to preform it every night to a high standard seems to get very overlooked or perhaps people just think it's a cake walk. Try doing your job, doing a good job and then needing to worry about a whole 'nuther aspect (that isn't your specialty or your job) all while consistently keeping things going super well at your main job. That is hard for anyone and when you are dealing with large high cost sets, crews, many dates in many cities around the world and large attendance numbers I can see why it is hard to also fight tooth and nail against a company who has virtually all control of the industry.
Just something to think about.
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