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Post by stamper on Mar 19, 2013 8:44:25 GMT -8
IS IT AS OFFENSIVE WHEN A PERSON DOESN'T HAVE A DICK AND THEY SAY IT? I say "suck a dick" a lot. Absolutely no shot towards the gay community. We often say things all the time without actually thinking about what they really mean. I've been guilty of using terms I probably shouldn't say. Even if the context we're using those words in isn't designed to be offensive, it can still isolate others and ultimately offend them. Rule of thumb - if you have to ask whether or not something is offensive, then it probably is. |
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Post by rimjobflashmob on Mar 19, 2013 8:45:04 GMT -8
Nick suggested that I suck his dick. I told him I didn't think it was funny. When a heterosexual man suggests another heterosexual man should "suck his dick," it is meant as an insult. When you use something fairly common in the gay community as an insult, it implies being gay, or doing gay things is also insulting. And that is not funny. It's offensive. I don't know where empty was going with his reply, but he made it sound like "suck my dick" coming from a gay man would be less offensive. I guess it could be spun into "irony" or "flirting." I don't know nick, but know a lot of you do, so I (maybe incorrectly) assumed the belt sander was the case. Considering all the comments were deleted, I'm back to my original assumption that nick made an inappropriate "joke." You implied all I wanted out of joining this was to get blown by saranater, who I've never met. That's weird and creepy. So I made light of the situation. If you think I was trying to insult the gay community that's not my problem, because that kind of shit is leaps and bounds away from "why, are you offering?" Which was my post, verbatim. Stop antagonizing people if you don't want them to retaliate. Everyone here insists you are a cool dude, but I've seen no evidence to support that. So, respectfully, back the fuck off. |
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Post by Drew on Mar 19, 2013 8:58:31 GMT -8
I was joking with nater in the OP but didn't mean to stir shit. Sometimes I forget that immature sex jokes can rub people the wrong way on this board, so it's better to avoid them, especially when they're not even really funny. Anyway, no blood no foul, everybody just join the bracket group and we'll settle this on the court.
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Post by wonk on Mar 19, 2013 9:03:53 GMT -8
Nick suggested that I suck his dick. I told him I didn't think it was funny. When a heterosexual man suggests another heterosexual man should "suck his dick," it is meant as an insult. When you use something fairly common in the gay community as an insult, it implies being gay, or doing gay things is also insulting. And that is not funny. It's offensive. I don't know where empty was going with his reply, but he made it sound like "suck my dick" coming from a gay man would be less offensive. I guess it could be spun into "irony" or "flirting." I don't know nick, but know a lot of you do, so I (maybe incorrectly) assumed the belt sander was the case. Considering all the comments were deleted, I'm back to my original assumption that nick made an inappropriate "joke." You implied all I wanted out of joining this was to get blown by saranater, who I've never met. That's weird and creepy. So I made light of the situation. If you think I was trying to insult the gay community that's not my problem, because that kind of shit is leaps and bounds away from "why, are you offering?" Which was my post, verbatim. Stop antagonizing people if you don't want them to retaliate. Everyone here insists you are a cool dude, but I've seen no evidence to support that. So, respectfully, back the fuck off. My comment was a play on words, like I often do. It had zero to do with Nater, and aside from your name being quoted, it had zero to do with you. It was a joke to the internet. Your reply was direct, intentional, and offensive. You're really going to play the "I'm the victim of being bullied," card after that? "Suck my dick herp derp" is your idea of humor? Stop antagonizing people if you don't want them to retaliate. I'm not defending myself here, I'm defending decency, which a lot of regulars hold dear to their heart. |
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Post by rimjobflashmob on Mar 19, 2013 9:16:21 GMT -8
My comment was a play on words, like I often do. It had zero to do with Nater, and aside from your name being quoted, it had zero to do with you. It was a joke to the internet. Even if you believe this is true, it's still a joke at my expense that's rude, uncomfortable, and offensive. I responded with a lighthearted joke in kind. It's not my fault if you took it way too seriously and flew off the deep end. |
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Post by emptyfox on Mar 19, 2013 9:16:44 GMT -8
Actually it was your replies (wonk) to both him and I that prompted the move, but like I said, I'm not sure what I was expecting. My joke was just a play on the  , but I'm sensitive to that type of stuff so I just felt it better that we move it. No harm, no foul. |
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Post by nater on Mar 19, 2013 9:19:37 GMT -8
IS IT AS OFFENSIVE WHEN A PERSON DOESN'T HAVE A DICK AND THEY SAY IT? I say "suck a dick" a lot. Absolutely no shot towards the gay community. We often say things all the time without actually thinking about what they really mean. I've been guilty of using terms I probably shouldn't say. Even if the context we're using those words in isn't designed to be offensive, it can still isolate others and ultimately offend them. Rule of thumb - if you have to ask whether or not something is offensive, then it probably is. I'm pretty intentionally offensive. Shit, when I'm really cranky I pull out "eat a dirty dick." My comments are meant to be offensive to people who are uptight though, not necessarily offensive to any group of any particular sexual orientation, etc. And I see no problem in offending uptight people. I actually really deeply enjoy it. Maybe that makes me immature. Such is life. |
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Post by Nadine Hurley on Mar 19, 2013 9:23:41 GMT -8
We often say things all the time without actually thinking about what they really mean. Rule of thumb - if you have to ask whether or not something is offensive, then it probably is. The phrase "Rule of Thumb" comes from an old law that permitted the beating of your wife, so long as you used a stick that was no thicker than your thumb. OFFENSIVE!!! Just giving you a hard time, also I think the origin of the phrase might be a myth. But while we are on the subject, for those of you I hang out with in real life... PLEASE pinch me if you ever hear me say "retarded". I try to be very careful with my words but "retarted" is one that I just can't seem to break. Every time I say it I wish I could shove the words right back in my mouth. |
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Post by nater on Mar 19, 2013 9:29:09 GMT -8
We often say things all the time without actually thinking about what they really mean. Rule of thumb - if you have to ask whether or not something is offensive, then it probably is. But while we are on the subject, for those of you I hang out with in real life... PLEASE pinch me if you ever hear me say "retarded". I try to be very careful with my words but "retarted" is one that I just can't seem to break. Every time I say it I wish I could shove the words right back in my mouth. No, I think you're correct in this. I've heard it a lot of times - even in a university class I believe. Also, the being given the "third degree" I believe finds its origin in the third phase of torture "witches" would undergo, in which every "witch" would admit to being a "witch" in order to make it stop, at which time they would be killed. Considering that a majority of those drowned/burned/etc for being "witches" were females, this is also offensive to women. |
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Post by Fig on Mar 19, 2013 9:46:14 GMT -8
Oh man this thread.
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Post by nater on Mar 19, 2013 10:04:35 GMT -8
Sasquatch board. Where talking trash is serious business.
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Post by wonk on Mar 19, 2013 10:36:43 GMT -8
My comment was a play on words, like I often do. It had zero to do with Nater, and aside from your name being quoted, it had zero to do with you. It was a joke to the internet. Even if you believe this is true, it's still a joke at my expense that's rude, uncomfortable, and offensive. I responded with a lighthearted joke in kind. It's not my fault if you took it way too seriously and flew off the deep end. The problem is you aren't taking it serious enough. One of my jokes went completely over your head (I get that a lot), so you responded with a "light-hearted" gay joke. You thought my joke was offensive because you didn't get it, so you retaliated offensively. Gay jokes, no matter how light-hearted, feed the stereotype that being gay is wrong, and/or is something to be laughed at. It is part of what makes it so difficult for young people to come out of the closet, because they think they'll be laughed at. I'm not sure why I'm the only one getting this, because it's been discussed ad nauseum on the board over the years. I agree the board in general can be too uptight about certain things, but I am not going to hang my hat on the "gay jokes are cool" rack. |
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Post by Pea on Mar 19, 2013 10:45:50 GMT -8
What the fuck are you talking about, wonk?
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Post by Pea on Mar 19, 2013 10:47:16 GMT -8
Pro tip: When 99% of your jokes "go over people's heads," it probably isn't them that are doing something wrong.
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Post by J. Walter Weatherman on Mar 19, 2013 10:53:17 GMT -8
Who knew the NCAA tournament would be so contentious
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Post by wonk on Mar 19, 2013 10:55:37 GMT -8
What the fuck are you talking about, wonk? Try to keep up. Nick suggested that I suck his dick. I told him I didn't think it was funny. When a heterosexual man suggests another heterosexual man should "suck his dick," it is meant as an insult. When you use something fairly common in the gay community as an insult, it implies being gay, or doing gay things is also insulting. And that is not funny. It's offensive. Pro tip: When 99% of your jokes "go over people's heads," it probably isn't them that are doing something wrong. There was nothing wrong with him not getting the joke, I take it as a compliment when people don't get my jokes. It was him using a "light-hearted" gay joke as retaliation. |
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Post by nater on Mar 19, 2013 10:55:54 GMT -8
Performing oral sex on a man is offensive, regardless of who is doing it. Duh.
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Post by rimjobflashmob on Mar 19, 2013 11:04:10 GMT -8
Performing oral sex on a man is offensive, regardless of who is doing it. Duh. This is seriously all I'm getting from wonk's posts. I wasn't making a fucking gay joke, dude, nor was it meant as an insult. The inference that it was made as such is entirely your own. |
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Post by nater on Mar 19, 2013 11:33:23 GMT -8
No. I'm serious. ITS DISGUSTING.
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Post by rüstü on Mar 19, 2013 11:34:02 GMT -8
When I see someone say "suck a dick", I think the joke is that it was probably the last thing the person receiving that statement was thinking about doing at the time, and it's also sexual. Jokes are commonly referencing sexual things because sex is a silly topic and fun to joke about. It has nothing to do with the fact that specific genders may occasionally suck dicks and it's definitely not making derogatory statements about those people.
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