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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 10, 2012 14:28:24 GMT -8
I'm genuinely curious since I don't often listen to hip-hop, but who are these other artists that Macklemore sounds like that give him a generic label? What causes me to take interest in any rap music is unique/interesting/unusual production. Listening to some dude talk angry over factory-produced beats does nothing for me.
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Post by Kalvor on Oct 10, 2012 14:34:40 GMT -8
I'm genuinely curious since I don't often listen to hip-hop, but who are these other artists that Macklemore sounds like that give him a generic label? I think he sounds a lot like Atmosphere. Also Blue Scholars.
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Post by badchoices on Oct 10, 2012 15:43:15 GMT -8
The real question is, what would Dave Niehaus think? That the Mariners SUCK! Hey there
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Post by Shaxspear III Esq. on Oct 10, 2012 16:12:23 GMT -8
I'm genuinely curious since I don't often listen to hip-hop, but who are these other artists that Macklemore sounds like that give him a generic label? I listen to a reasonable amount of hip hop, and I still don't get what they're trying to say. I'm relatively new to Macklemore and I'm still going through his catalogue, but I'd hardly call him "generic". Sure he's not like Death Grips because that shit is right out of left field. But from what I've heard so far, Macklemore has a bit of variety to him. He has some down right cheese songs (i'm betting these are the high radio play ones), some funk/soul, some down right comedy songs, and some deep tunes. You can say you don't like what you've heard, but I think the term generic is a poor choice.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 10, 2012 16:24:35 GMT -8
By 'generic', I meant 'boring'. By 'boring', I mean 'boring to me'. By 'boring to me', I mean 'not out of left field like Death Grips'. He's like the Foo Fighters of rap. Like, 'yes, this is rap music, great job'.
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Post by wonk on Oct 10, 2012 16:25:12 GMT -8
The real question is, what would Dave Niehaus think? That the Mariners SUCK! Hey there No I think CHUD is right. The Mariners routinely finish in the top half of payroll, and bottom half of wins. Dave Niehaus was old, but he wasn't blind.
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Post by Cbats on Oct 10, 2012 16:32:46 GMT -8
If you take away Macklemore's lyrical directness (his best or worst quality depending on who you talk to), he sounds like pretty much every other socially conscious white backpack rapper of the last couple decades. Some of his songs sound silly like Mac Miller and some sound serious like Atmosphere.
I'm not trying to insult him or anything, but his sound is hardly revolutionary.
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Post by Dr. Crane on Oct 10, 2012 16:34:19 GMT -8
Macklemore doesn't drop guillotines in the 21st century and is therefor not original.
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Post by Pea on Oct 10, 2012 16:42:45 GMT -8
Remember that one time when we listened to ICP at Stormy and Grammars? Hehe
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Post by Pea on Oct 10, 2012 16:43:28 GMT -8
Autocorrect lulz
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Post by Dr. Crane on Oct 10, 2012 16:44:36 GMT -8
Oooh and I forgot the best part of my iPod/Macklemore story. So all iPhones were on Macklemore and I was like "fuck this overcrowded Macklemore business" and decided to drive to the suburbs to replace my broken iPod. When I finally got to the service desk, I was asked to relinquish my iPod to a sweet young woman who was about my age, and she had to go through routine troubleshooting. This involed pressing play to test the audio. The last album playing was NO LOVE DEEP WEB. She definitely saw it.
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Post by Warily on Oct 10, 2012 16:55:03 GMT -8
I think Burrito said it best -- I'm paraphrasing, but it was something like 'I wouldn't even be interested if there weren't some kind of wild card noise rock element in there.' I'm not big on hip-hop. Jay-Z is useless to me, I'm not interested in Kanye, I never had a Dre or a Snoop phase. I dig the weirdos, same as with any other kind of music. I dig DOOM, Doseone, Death Grips... so rappers that start with a D I guess is what I'm sayin'. Don't forget Dad Rapist!
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 10, 2012 17:13:10 GMT -8
It's weird how accurate this Rappers That Start With a D thing is turning out to be.
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Post by mrlahey on Oct 10, 2012 17:35:38 GMT -8
That they are. I met Jel a few years back when they were touring with.......cant remember the name. Was about 5/6 years ago, full band with Doseone and Jel opening for Minus The Bear. Anywho, cool ass dude! That was probably Subtle, which is even sweeter than Themselves. Correct. Also, the nut jocking of Death Grips is getting a tad bit out of control around here.
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Post by wonk on Oct 10, 2012 18:08:31 GMT -8
If you take away Macklemore's lyrical directness (his best or worst quality depending on who you talk to), he sounds like pretty much every other socially conscious white backpack rapper of the last couple decades. Some of his songs sound silly like Mac Miller and some sound serious like Atmosphere. I'm not trying to insult him or anything, but his sound is hardly revolutionary. I'll get all deep, Macklemore style. I'm not extremely impressed with his flow or lyrics, but Hip hop is as much image as talent. While most artists try to portray themselves as "hard," Macklemore is basically portraying himself as soft. He raps about feelings, and substance abuse, and sobriety, and gay rights, and all sorts of things anti hip hop. He portrays a sense of vulnarability, which is bad word in the industry. Hip Hop artists are huge role models for today's youth, and so many of them are such giant douchebags and dolts, it's about time a good guy breaks through. Even if he isn't as talented as Lil Wayne, Eminem, and Kanye, who would you rather your kid grow up idolozing? The potential is there for him to be one of the biggest forces in the game, and he likes baseball. Plus, isn't he like really hot? I've never seen so many females at a concert.
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Post by Cbats on Oct 10, 2012 19:18:23 GMT -8
I wouldn't argue with a single thing you said. What I would add though is that it does bug me that a lot of white middle class kids are connecting with it and feel the need to say things like "it's just nice to have a rapper that addresses real issues!" I don't mean to dismiss the fact that his music resonates with their experiences but I get really annoyed that they completely discredit other rappers because of this. I understand that a white middle class kid from Ballard isn't ever going to relate to Tupac or Kendrick Lamar the same way that a kid from Compton can but I don't appreciate that they feel the need to denigrate their experiences as "not being real".
I know that a lot of rap that non-listeners are exposed to is simply the shit that gets played on the radio and that they don't know better but it still drives me insane. I understand that this shouldn't impact my feelings about the music but I can't let it go.
It doesn't matter anyway, I'm clearly not his target audience. I wouldn't dare knock his charisma but otherwise I think he's a pretty bland rapper.
Edit: None of that was aimed at you Wonk, your points are all completely fair. It was aimed at Reddit more than anything. I made the mistake of checking out his AMA over there and the praise being thrown on him was disturbing
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Post by Pea on Oct 10, 2012 19:24:45 GMT -8
Does anyone here listen to Jedi Mind Tricks or Army of the Pharaohs? A bunch of kids on the metal forums used to love those guys because they were huge metal heads in addition to being rappers. I listened to them for a bit out of curiosity, but I can't remember if I really dug them or not.
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Post by Geoff on Oct 10, 2012 19:25:58 GMT -8
Does anyone here listen to Jedi Mind Tricks or Army of the Pharaohs? A bunch of kids on the metal forums used to love those guys because they were huge metal heads in addition to being rappers. I listened to them for a bit out of curiosity, but I can't remember if I really dug them or not. I kinda like Jedi Mind Tricks. Don't really hate em or love em.
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Post by Pea on Oct 10, 2012 19:30:51 GMT -8
Yea the albums I had started off with really excellent tracks, and then turned really forgettable about half way through.
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Post by mrlahey on Oct 10, 2012 19:54:58 GMT -8
AOTP is the shit!
Also along those lines Ill Bills solo shit is super nice along with La Coka Nostra. Celph Titled and Apathy are also nice on the ears.
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