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Post by Horned Gramma on Nov 16, 2011 14:04:41 GMT -8
Making people late for work is pretty much what they did when they were occupying those parks downtown -- which, by the way, currently look like the sandbox of a thirteen-foot-tall five year old with a spastic colon.
The occupy movement is waaaay past the brink of failure. It is at the point of being pathetic.
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Post by alex on Nov 16, 2011 14:09:24 GMT -8
I'm enjoying the fact that the only reason the Occupation is continuing here is because they set up on property that a development company bought on spec and are actively trying to sell for a HUGE profit.
It's all very amusing to me.
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Post by Pea on Nov 16, 2011 14:11:47 GMT -8
By the way, if you're pregnant or 84 years old, don't fucking stand in the middle of one of Seattle's busiest downtown intersections with a large group of people and refuse to disperse UNLESS you want to get pepper sprayed.
Give me a fucking break. The media is drooling over this one...
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Post by StormyPinkness on Nov 16, 2011 15:14:14 GMT -8
The Occupiers are planning on shutting down Max (Portland's train portion of public transit) tomorrow morning by protesting on the Steel Bridge. The Steel Bridge is the central point for all trains going east and west from downtown. I guess making people late for work is their goal. Wow, way to stick it to the working man. |
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Post by know ID yuh on Nov 16, 2011 15:19:14 GMT -8
I was recently in a room filled with people on every end of the political spectrum, and one thing everyone agree with was, "they are finally kicking the protestors out, it's about time." What seems to have happened is that it went from a group of people who support a movement to the homeless community sleeping at the occupy event because the supporters give them sandwiches and smoke them out. I wonder what percent of who was left even strongly supported the cause?
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Post by StormyPinkness on Nov 16, 2011 15:57:27 GMT -8
It is too bad that it turned into such a mess. But I don't blame the homeless people for going there and getting food and shelter. One of my big problems is with people who are just going to blame the police for anything and every thing. I am not a huge fan of the police, and I know certain people were out of line and committed terrible acts. But not all of them. This girl I know was yelling on Facebook about how two dogs were killed in the cleanup of Occupy Portland when they took backhoes to the parks. She was outraged at the police for doing this. Well, what about the animal owners who had three days to remove their pets from danger and just didn't bother? Your fucking dogs did not ask to occupy a tent city and that is your responsibility.
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Post by Fig on Nov 16, 2011 18:48:24 GMT -8
OccupyBOI still going strong. We had lots of folks very concerned yesterday in regards to whether or not we would be part of the clearly planned mass evictions throughout the nation but when our legal team contacted the city, they told us were doing fine and their only concern is with anarchists lol.
If they want to use that tactic of shutting down bridges and such, that's their call. It's certainly not the sort of action we will be taking tomorrow in solidarity with OWS. We will be having a short march and then having a presence in front of city hall as a delegation goes in side to try and get the mayor to come out and discuss his interpretations of the crackdowns and the first amendment. This is the first direct action that I have been more or less central in planning so I'm excited to see how it goes!
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Post by Fig on Nov 16, 2011 18:50:27 GMT -8
Although when I went to the mayors office today to drop off a written requests for a dialogue, his secretary told me he was out of town all week (only after I told him I was there on behalf of occupyboi's direct action working group lol)
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Post by frightfulforgetful on Nov 16, 2011 19:09:12 GMT -8
I was recently in a room filled with people on every end of the political spectrum, and one thing everyone agree with was, "they are finally kicking the protestors out, it's about time." What seems to have happened is that it went from a group of people who support a movement to the homeless community sleeping at the occupy event because the supporters give them sandwiches and smoke them out. I wonder what percent of who was left even strongly supported the cause? The government shut down bathrooms and trash service, so, yeah, the parks turned to shit. The whole thing has been completely misrepresented by the media. the actions of a few have defined the characteristics of many. I would think that maybe you guys wouldve learned to be at least a little skeptical of corporate media. If you give a shit at all, you'll turn off your tv and go see for yourselves. |
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Post by Horned Gramma on Nov 16, 2011 19:09:14 GMT -8
So you are protesting for your right to continue protesting.
Good work, fig.
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Post by Fig on Nov 16, 2011 19:12:27 GMT -8
I presume that's sarcastic. I think. But regardless, while that is the primary goal of this specific action, that's not demonstrative of our overall goal of systemic change so money is out of politics and all of our votes and voices carry equal value.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Nov 16, 2011 19:19:52 GMT -8
Shut up, frightful. Im not being spoonfed by the media, I am living through the experience just like you.
I suggest not barging into a political conversation and immediately being condescending as your reintroduction to the board.
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Post by Fig on Nov 16, 2011 19:28:57 GMT -8
Keep in mind I only have occupyBOI to go off so take that for what you will.
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Post by know ID yuh on Nov 16, 2011 19:40:54 GMT -8
I was recently in a room filled with people on every end of the political spectrum, and one thing everyone agree with was, "they are finally kicking the protestors out, it's about time." What seems to have happened is that it went from a group of people who support a movement to the homeless community sleeping at the occupy event because the supporters give them sandwiches and smoke them out. I wonder what percent of who was left even strongly supported the cause? The government shut down bathrooms and trash service, so, yeah, the parks turned to shit. The whole thing has been completely misrepresented by the media. the actions of a few have defined the characteristics of many. I would think that maybe you guys wouldve learned to be at least a little skeptical of corporate media. If you give a shit at all, you'll turn off your tv and go see for yourselves. I swore I would never get into political arguments online, but I'm probably a bit annoyed that I have to go through great measures to make it to work on time tomorrow, so... It's probably different in other regions, but I'm pretty sure it is illegal to frequent a city park in Portland after midnight. People are claiming their first amendment rights are being violated, but the first amendment does not allow for peaceful assembly and freedom of speech in my living room. It is illegal to be in my living room uninvited, just like it is illegal to be in a Portland park after midnight. The "government" has allowed this to happen for several weeks, and guess who is paying for all of that police OT, and who is suffering for lack of funding? No one can explain to me what the actual point is, other than "awareness" and "getting involved." And "corporate media" is not where I get my information from. I rarely watch TV outside of sports. As Flava Flav once said, "you can't truss it." And you are a fake poster/troll anyway, I've already established that, so there you go. You suck regardless what your views on the Occupy movement is. |
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Post by Fig on Nov 16, 2011 19:53:12 GMT -8
One advantage we have here in Boise, we started our camp much later (11 days ago) so we have been trying to learn from the mistakes of other, earlier established camps.
To me know, the purpose of the camps is to provide us with a community in which we all can bring our multitude of grievances and stories to and discuss them wich in turn allows us to identify specific issues which we can Target in order to better our country and world. That's my take at least. The movement is defo prelude going to evolve beyond the camps, but for now its working just fine for us here.
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Post by Fig on Nov 16, 2011 19:54:45 GMT -8
Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick autocorrect fucked that up
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Post by frightfulforgetful on Nov 16, 2011 20:43:37 GMT -8
I guess I just feel like there are bigger problems than your ability to get to work tomorrow. The protest on the bridge is not random. It's to bring attention to the fact that the steel bridge is overdue for repairs/general maintenance and the city of portland refuses to hire any number of it's unemployed to do it. I think you're confusing a small step in the process for an expression of the overall message. I don't know who you are or where you get your information, but what I've experienced first hand is radically different than what the media has portrayed. Your comments sound like regurgitations of media lies. I'm not a fake poster. I've been to Sasquatch! every year since 2008. I've posted on this board numerous times under another name. Whatever that has to do with anything. You keep thinking this will go away, but this isn't a sad failure in the continued system of revolution. It's an attempt to come together and create a revolutionary system. This is the only way for an actual representation of the american people to accomplish that in a government that has pigeonholed them into one of two broad categories. If you don't feel represented by the movement, I promise, it's really easy to go and represent yourself. Oh, and I'm pretty sure the the fed uses your tax dollar for things far more atrocious than renovations to a park.
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Post by Geoff on Nov 16, 2011 20:51:51 GMT -8
I've posted on this board numerous times under another name. Is that you Squatchcreep? |
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Post by frightfulforgetful on Nov 16, 2011 21:02:58 GMT -8
Nope
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Post by know ID yuh on Nov 16, 2011 21:24:24 GMT -8
I guess I just feel like there are bigger problems than your ability to get to work tomorrow. The protest on the bridge is not random. It's to bring attention to the fact that the steel bridge is overdue for repairs/general maintenance and the city of portland refuses to hire any number of it's unemployed to do it. I think you're confusing a small step in the process for an expression of the overall message. I don't know who you are or where you get your information, but what I've experienced first hand is radically different than what the media has portrayed. Your comments sound like regurgitations of media lies. I'm not a fake poster. I've been to Sasquatch! every year since 2008. I've posted on this board numerous times under another name. Whatever that has to do with anything. You keep thinking this will go away, but this isn't a sad failure in the continued system of revolution. It's an attempt to come together and create a revolutionary system. This is the only way for an actual representation of the american people to accomplish that in a government that has pigeonholed them into one of two broad categories. If you don't feel represented by the movement, I promise, it's really easy to go and represent yourself. Oh, and I'm pretty sure the the fed uses your tax dollar for things far more atrocious than renovations to a park. First, I nailed your fake poster status. No one just signs up for a message board to talk shit unless they've already been done wrong. So you are real, but you are not saying anything other than, "this is a CONCEPT that all americans should feel just about, it's bigger than you think, but you just don't get it." So what is the point? Please sum it up in two lines or less, otherwise you sound like every other political activist spouting off random shit that means nothing to the average folk, but you somehow make us feel like we are missing something with your filibustering. If you are trying to convince me the Occupy movement is about maintenence on the Steel bridge, I will gladly call bullshit. |
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