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Post by Horned Gramma on Dec 19, 2012 19:17:56 GMT -8
Sometimes I poke my nose into the baseball thread just so I can see wonk use phrases like 'hilarious leg injury'.
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Post by wonk on Dec 19, 2012 19:37:19 GMT -8
Sometimes I poke my nose into the baseball thread just so I can see wonk use phrases like 'hilarious leg injury'. Occasionally I forget more than six of us read this thread, but I did mean to post a video about said 'hilarious leg injury' just in case other regulars stumbled upon my post. I didn't find a decent shot of it, so I'll tell you what happened. The dude hit a walk-off grand slam. Game over. He rounds third and jogs home towards his teammates, who are waiting for him to touch home plate so they can give him hugs and high fives. A couple feet short of home plate, he decides to jump in the air and land on home plate as the coup de grace. He lands awkwardly, breaks his leg, and missed the rest of 2010 and all of 2011. Luckily for Mariners fans, he went from an enormous contender to the second worst team in the West, so he won't be jumping for joy. |
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Post by chud on Dec 19, 2012 19:46:40 GMT -8
This move just reinforces my hatred for the Mariners, the Angels and Vargas! You hate Vargas? Why is that? I don't know the splits and I don't know if they would even show what I believe, but Mr. Vargas has historically been an Athletic killer. It is for that that I hate him. |
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Post by wonk on Dec 19, 2012 21:15:12 GMT -8
You hate Vargas? Why is that? I don't know the splits and I don't know if they would even show what I believe, but Mr. Vargas has historically been an Athletic killer. It is for that that I hate him. The A's have also had an amazingly inept offense over the last few years, with little to none right handed power hitters. It was much better this past season with CesPEDes and the hit or miss Chris Carter domination. Chris Young will help fill the Gomes loss, and who knows what the Japan dude can do. A guy who historically beat up a terrible offense doesn't mean he can continue to beat up a much improved offensive lineup (I know you know this, but I'm saying it anyway). |
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Post by chud on Dec 22, 2012 14:23:54 GMT -8
My favorite band-aid Rich Harden scored himself a minor league deal with the Twinkies. Atta-boy Richie! Also the Mariners continued their huge offseason with the signing of Jeremy Bonderman. Hi, I'm Jeremy Bonderman, remember me?
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Post by stamper on Dec 26, 2012 12:56:08 GMT -8
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Post by chud on Dec 26, 2012 13:20:20 GMT -8
this
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Post by wonk on Dec 27, 2012 22:08:00 GMT -8
My favorite band-aid Rich Harden scored himself a minor league deal with the Twinkies. Atta-boy Richie! Also the Mariners continued their huge offseason with the signing of Jeremy Bonderman. Hi, I'm Jeremy Bonderman, remember me? Ah Rich Harden, my second favorite emergency bullpen catcher, behind Eric Chavez. They are the only two players in recent memory to hit the DL because of a full-body injury. I still root for the guy, he had so much potential in that tiny frame. And the Mariners recent blockbuster signing, Raul Ibanez, who will be a great play on the road at Yankee stadium, the only ballpark he can hit the ball out of with their little league short porch in right field. But he hit the first homer at Safeco or some insignificant stat like that. That was a nice read. Thanks for posting. I forgot about his annual thread. I had both of the Uptons on my fantasy team when the hit their 100th on the same day. Awesome, although I'm not a fan of the tight pocket Lew Wolff comment. The way I've always thought of it, he bought a run down movie theater, and has been trying to upgrade it. People want to see a movie in the newest IMAX high def or 3-D theater, but aren't willing to pay to see the same movie projected on a brick wall in the middle of the ghetto. Owners are in the business to make money, so I don't fault him for trying to build a better fan experience. If he gets his frat brother Selig to allow the move to San Jose, he makes a shit ton more money in real estate, then can use that extra cash to improve the team. He hasn't proved to be a tight wad yet. |
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Post by chud on Dec 28, 2012 7:20:17 GMT -8
Awesome, although I'm not a fan of the tight pocket Lew Wolff comment. The way I've always thought of it, he bought a run down movie theater, and has been trying to upgrade it. People want to see a movie in the newest IMAX high def or 3-D theater, but aren't willing to pay to see the same movie projected on a brick wall in the middle of the ghetto. Owners are in the business to make money, so I don't fault him for trying to build a better fan experience. If he gets his frat brother Selig to allow the move to San Jose, he makes a shit ton more money in real estate, then can use that extra cash to improve the team. He hasn't proved to be a tight wad yet. I agree with this 100% (though the iamge of him whipping players while music that you would expect to be playing inside the Kremlin rings in the background is quite hilarious.) History shows that he's been willing to go after the big free agent (see Adrian Beltre). Unfortunately, star players are more willing to take less money in order to be somewhere other than Oakland. I think Lew has done a fine job as Owner. The San Jose thing really chaps my hide. |
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Post by badchoices on Jan 2, 2013 15:02:38 GMT -8
I was reading that the M's have been talking to the Dodgers about potentially trading for Andre Ethier. I also have read that the talks have stopped over the past week. I really liked following him last year (he was on my fantasy team). What do you guys think of him?
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Post by stamper on Jan 2, 2013 15:27:34 GMT -8
Ethier is a solid player, but his contract is a scary... no thanks. Also, his splits are frightening. The dude, straight up, can't hit left handed pitching. Take a look at his 3 year breakdown... espn.go.com/mlb/player/splits/_/id/6481/type/batting3/andre-ethierAcquiring a player like Ethier isn't going turn their franchise around. I'm not sure there's any one single player that can do that for Seattle. Bottom line? Seattle needs to trade Felix for an ass-ton of prospects and go back to the drawing board. Develop, develop, develop and see what they've got in like three years. Sorry. |
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Post by badchoices on Jan 2, 2013 15:43:57 GMT -8
his contract is a scary... Uh oh, that sounds like something we would get ourselves into! haha. I have never used the ESPN splits before, I like that. Thanks for the input |
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Post by wonk on Jan 4, 2013 21:11:57 GMT -8
I really liked following him last year (he was on my fantasy team). What do you guys think of him? Contract year dude, that's why you liked following him last year. You also must not have realized he was a pile of feces starting at about the exact time he signed his contract extension, which was early June for some stupid reason. Check out his 2012 monthly splits in the link posted above. He was a league leader in RBIs, and had a very respectable OPS before he got paid, then he went back to his usual lazy ways. That's the reason the A's gave up on him as a prospect way back when, and chose to take (if you can believe this) Milton Bradley over him. Lolol. Plus, as mentioned, he can't hit lefties, and his contract makes him virtually untradable outside of a straight up salary dump. Now back to Giancarlo Stanton, who is in the news much more recently, now that the Marlins are publicly listening to trade offers. I can't stress how much it makes sense for Billy Beane to get Stanton. 1. The A's aren't as broke as everyone thinks. They just can't find people worth spending money on to take their money. They can easily afford Stanton's three arbitration years, especially since he's basically free in 2013. 2. Billy Beane has always sought power bats, but they've been impossible to find in free agency (outside of the giant CesPEDes gamble). He knows he has trade for one. 3. The A's won the west. They don't need to continue stock piling prospects to keep their payroll low. It's time to win, especially with that extra wild card and the extra wins with all those games against Houston. Flip those prospects for a stud. 4. They've historically had bad luck with offensive prospects flourishing, so why not flip a giant package of prospects to get that power hitter with the highest upside of any power hitter any of us have seen since we've been alive? 5. If something doesn't work out, Beane can recoup some of what he's lost by trading Stanton. 6. I can't see my favorite hitter going to an AL West rival two years in a row. The Mariners and Rangers are front-runners for Stanton. Take that bat from your rivals. I still don't think Stanton will be traded, but I know the Marlins expected return is unreasonable right now. It will drop when all other 29 teams have a chance to call the Marlins idiots. |
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Post by badchoices on Jan 5, 2013 7:29:04 GMT -8
Yeah I did notice the last couple of months that he wasn't doing as well. I didn't realize he was in the A's organization at one point. I can't wait for fantasy baseball next year. That was fun. 6. I can't see my favorite hitter going to an AL West rival two years in a row. The Mariners and Rangers are front-runners for Stanton. Take that bat from your rivals. I don't have any faith that we will get something like that done. If the Rangers get Stanton that will drive me crazy. When you say that the M's and Rangers are front runners that does get me a little pumped though. I am guessing that is based on us packaging together all of our "big 3" (Paxton, Hultzen, Walker) and maybe someone else? So you're saying there's a chance...  |
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Post by chud on Jan 9, 2013 13:23:45 GMT -8
Today we were given a very clear message about what the Hall of Fame selection committee thinks about players linked to PEDs. Under 40% of the vote for both Bonds and Clemens. You've got to be kidding me, right?
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Post by stamper on Jan 9, 2013 15:09:36 GMT -8
hell hath no fury like the BBWAA...
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Post by wonk on Jan 9, 2013 21:03:49 GMT -8
Today we were given a very clear message about what the Hall of Fame selection committee thinks about players linked to PEDs. Under 40% of the vote for both Bonds and Clemens. You've got to be kidding me, right? I wish every idiot who voted against Clemens and Bonds would look me right in the eye and say, "No one who uses steroids will ever make it to the Hall." I guarantee they've already let at least one slip through the five hole, if not several. Point is, the best of the best are the only ones being punished when nearly everyone was guilty. The mediocre get a free pass. It's the same thing with Lance Armstrong. |
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Post by wonk on Jan 9, 2013 22:34:39 GMT -8
"My vote should reflect history, and should reflect the era...a sport absolutely saturated with drug use, and these were the best players of the era, and that's why I voted for them."
-Buster Olney
I know Stamper has voiced an agreement with me in the past about how everyone's doing steroids. After knowing what you know, the skinny lead off hitters, fat workhorse starters, and utility infielders are among the people regularly getting caught for steroids, do you now reverse your opinion knowing Glavine and Maddux are eligible for the hall next year?
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Post by stamper on Jan 10, 2013 8:04:52 GMT -8
I think what we agreed on was that the BBWAA is a complete joke.
I'm not sure I ever said that everybody was doing steroids. Call me idealistic, but I'm fairly confident at least 1/5 players weren't juicing.
My position is this (I said this several pages ago) The BBWW has a responsibility to nominate the best very players from each era into the Hall. And while Bonds, Clemens and McGwire all chose to do steroids, they were also three of the best players from their era -and would still have been, even without the steroids. They shouldn't be punished because they were caught and players like Kirby Puckett, Cal Ripken and Roberto Alomar weren't.
Now then, referring to Glavine and Maddux - Unless something comes out on both of them over the next 11 months (tying them to steroids) I'm 100% confident both of those players will be elected to Hall of Fame - and deservedly so.
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Post by stamper on Jan 10, 2013 9:22:57 GMT -8
...for what it's worth, I don't believe Maddux did steroids.
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