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Post by pitpat on Jan 30, 2012 23:13:53 GMT -8
But really that's all pretty bold thinking I agree.
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Post by pitpat on Jan 30, 2012 22:32:22 GMT -8
first of all, tenacious would kick ass. second, seeing as how the time of knowing the lineup is almost upon us and thus the time of speculating about the lineup is almost over, I want to get in some last-minute bold predictions. just for kicks, I know official prediction time is over (and I already made a list). here's a couple: DJ Shadow late-night set tell me it wouldn't be awesome Spiritualized play Ladies & Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space probably not gonna happen, but I had to say it Chemical Bros headline makes sense to me, either Friday or Sunday night and why not, here's my day-by-day bold prediction lineup FRIDAYChem Bros Orbital Girl Talk the Field SATURDAYMumford Shins Built to Spill Ed Sharpe Wild Flag War On Drugs --wookie Pretty Lights (late night) Tune-Yards WU LYF SUNDAYPortishead Bon Iver Spiritualized (L&G) GY!BE St Vincent --wookie DJ Shadow (late night) Shabazz Palaces The Weeknd MONDAYAir/Sigur Ros (can't make up my mind, either would be great) Feist Beirut Polyphonic Spree Elbow Mazzy Star --wookie Joy Formidable I'd love to be half right. what you got AZ?
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Post by pitpat on Jan 30, 2012 15:16:20 GMT -8
spiritualized isnt really that big are they? expect them to headline. maybe play the pavement slot from '010. they are that big. EDIT: maybe not headline, based on the Santa Clause? EDIT: ok, did some research, they are only that big in my mind.
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Post by pitpat on Jan 30, 2012 15:06:05 GMT -8
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Post by pitpat on Jan 20, 2012 17:05:57 GMT -8
Sorry I meant has this been brought up yet.... But still 5 stages! Holy shit! I assume the fifth is behind where all those vendor tent things are, I saw them building some sort of contraption there last year and at Labordave as well I think you guys are overreacting to the website design, I think the "Sasquatch" tab is going to list all the bands, and the other tabs will list them by individual stage. sorry to be debbie downer here, but if I were you I wouldn't get my hopes up for a 5th stage. not like sasquatch is lacking in options anyways... except in the food department.
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Post by pitpat on Jan 20, 2012 16:55:56 GMT -8
Here's a long long shot, but has anyone considered Rage Against the Machine? They seem to play one off festivals, have no plans for the immediate and have never played The Gorge before. Like I said...looooong shot. ahem, yes in fact WAY back at the beginning of this thread I suggested that (and was criticized for speculating too rampantly for some reason), but as I pointed out then and you point out now, they are playing one-off and festival type shows. also Tom Morello said at one point (to Rolling Stone, I believe) "if we want to do a thing, we'll do a thing." finally, RATM has actually played the gorge before. I was there, I saw it happen, it was epic. Wu-Tang was supposed to open that show but got thrown off the tour for being Wu-Tang (I don't know exactly why, but I think it had to do with disrespecting women, which is so Wu!) and they were replaced by the Roots. true story!
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Post by pitpat on Jan 19, 2012 13:50:20 GMT -8
Did any of you go the year that Bjork played? I have tried numerous times to get into her music and I just can't, but I'm wondering if she is any good live. she was great, but if you don't like her music on its own, I can't imagine the live show would change your mind. unless you're super into wacky fashions. to be totally honest, my memories of that show are kind of cloudy because of how much arcade fire destroyed right before it. I was still picking up pieces of my brain off the hillside for a while. while we're on the subject of potential '07 returnees, I would like to join in on your earlier rampant speculation that Polyphonic Spree will be back, and hopefully will get to play a full set this time (weather permitting).
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Post by pitpat on Jan 18, 2012 21:25:09 GMT -8
here's a couple more bands I am glad won't be there thanks to dates booked in Seattle: Social Distortion What the hell does Social Distortion have in common with those other bands? There are far worse bands announcing tours right meow that might have hit the Sasquatch lineup. They shouldn't even be in the same sentence as Foster the People, Young the Giant or Coldplay. oh, nothing in common at all. it was a completely subjective and arbitrary list I made of bands that I have seen announce tours recently, thought "hey, they might play sasquatch and I don't care about that band," checked the tour schedule, and was happy to see a seattle date. and it wasn't really a sentence, so everything's cool.
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Post by pitpat on Jan 18, 2012 19:47:40 GMT -8
Death Cab playing Seattle in May..Yesss stay the fuck away from Sasquatch this year plz agreed! but they were never gonna be there cuz they headlined last year. here's a couple more bands I am glad won't be there thanks to dates booked in Seattle: Snow Patrol Coldplay Bassnectar (sorry guys!!) Social Distortion Young the Giant Kasabian Foster the People whew! dodged a few bullets there... now if we can just get something better than RHCP on friday (not likely, I know...)
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Post by pitpat on Jan 18, 2012 19:28:38 GMT -8
Having bands be exclusive makes perfect sense if the fest doesnt sell out. But meow that it does (I said it in the summer and I'll say it again now, it's gunna sell out, even if the lineup is sub par) I fail to see the benifit of keeping the acts from playing Seattle when a large chunk of the audience isnt even from there anyway. yes, it's gonna sell out even if the lineup is sub-par. but the reason it sells out is because they are exclusives. believe me, AZ would prefer to sell out the festival before even announcing a lineup (and that may not be as impossible as it sounds, check back in a couple years) and the radius clause is what makes the whole thing work. again, they are thinking about next year and the year after that, not this year. If most people thought they could wait for the lineup and the corresponding shows to come out and then choose one or the other, they would have sold about twelve presale tickets. everyone would wait for all the announcements and make a decision in April. also, you'd have WAY more people buying single day tickets, which is clearly not the direction they want to take things. I might actually believe that they could make it work, that people like me would go as much for the festival experience as for any two or three bands on the lineup - for example, I would love to see M83 this year. if you gave me the option of seeing M83 at the paramount theater or on the gorge mainstage I would take the gorge every time. but I have a lot of friends who don't feel that way, they would buy tickets to the one-off show and skip the festival entirely. most people probably only really connect with a couple of names on the lineup, and I think it's safe to say AZ (or Live Nation) thinks the best way to make huge piles of $$$ off of this thing is to keep the radius clause. but I agree with you about why just Seattle, I see as many canucks and portlandians at squatch as I do seattleites. and actually, the canucks win that one hands down.
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Post by pitpat on Jan 18, 2012 14:54:10 GMT -8
Bright Eyes played Seattle like a month before Sasquatch though, so I guess it could happen. is that true? I don't think so. they played vancouver and portland, but not seattle, right? they did eventually come back to seattle in september.
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Post by pitpat on Jan 18, 2012 14:33:50 GMT -8
Total rampant speculation: meow that Coachella and likely Sasquatch sell out in hours, what are the odds of radius clauses getting a lot more lax? I could almost see it going the other way as in bands might want to skip Seattle since lots of their fans might just sat "ahh, I'll see them at Sasquatch anyway." If Radiohead was to play sasquatch do you really think it would affect sales much because they have a sold out show in Seattle a month before? I'm just bored and thought I would throw that out there. that's an interesting question, but I say no as well. for one thing, if radiohead is booked as a headliner I'm selling my Key Arena tickets. but I think at this point the radius clauses have more to do with selling out in the future than selling out this year, which everyone knows will happen in a matter of hours. AZ has a definite interest in protecting not only the headliners, but the first four or five lines on the poster, I would say one of the main reasons it sells out so fast (and sold out presales without announcing a single artist) is that the festival has built the reputation of awesome lineups that you can't see otherwise. so I wouldn't expect St Vincent/Tune-Yards to both show up at Sasquatch! and book a co-headlining gig in Seattle like they did in Cali. probably not even in Portland. if they did that, people would start being like 'hey, I don't have to go to Sasquatch! cuz I can see most of what I want to see in town' and that attitude would be reflected in next year's presales. I personally would go to Sasquatch! either way, because I fucking love the gorge, but not everybody thinks that way.
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Post by pitpat on Jan 15, 2012 20:52:41 GMT -8
The bottom line is: Bassnectar's shows > Girl Talks shows. I've seen both. Girl Talk was fun, but not really anything that special. Bassnectar on the other hand blew my mind and I was 100% sober. fair enough. I wouldn't call a girl talk show mind blowing. best dance party ever, perhaps, but not mind blowing. Girl Talk is like taking too much ritalin and channel surfing with a schizophrenic child molester. wait, bassnectar samples Dumbo, but GT is child molester music? hmm, I think you might be just saying ridiculous things to get a response. shocking! I would never expect something like that to happen on the internet!
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Post by pitpat on Jan 15, 2012 20:25:00 GMT -8
Paragraphs: They are allowed on forums, too. sorry, rants don't always come in paragraph form. Girl Talk is music for people who don't know shit about music. Lowest common denominator. Shut up about it. bullshit. appealing to the part of you that WANTS to dance to rihanna doesn't exclude him from intellectual merit. there's plenty for a music geek to geek out about in a girl talk song, like the fugazi bassline he throws under the rihanna sample, but that wasn't my point. I was saying that it is not at all simplistic, I find it complex and kind of amazing. mashups aren't that cool, but he makes it an art form. also, I never said I was too good for glowpocalypse. in fact, I'm kind of jealous of how much fun it looks like you're all having. what I'm trying to say is: whatever drugs you're on for the bassnectar show, I want some.
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Post by pitpat on Jan 15, 2012 19:15:27 GMT -8
dude, you could hear that show all the way back at the campsite! seriously though, I checked it out, and moved on. looked like people were having fun, but I found the music simplistic and it didn't make me want to dance. was that the one where the PA was completely cutting out? I seem to remember that happening. I thought it was part of the show. So you're saying that Bassnectar is simplistic while Girl Talk isn't? Alright then. so you really want to have this discussion? Alright then. yes, I think bassnectar is simplistic. and repetitive. and boring. girl talk is entirely different, first of all because the mashup format he uses works on a totally different level. he tickles nostalgic centers of the brain, he is sampling shit that everybody knows and putting it to beats that everybody recognizes, and he gets the hipsters in skinny jeans to dance. that is his genius. bassnectar occupies a different universe, in which he is also hugely popular, but I would argue that getting teenagers on pills to dance is a bit easier. girl talk doesn't really have "songs" at all, it's hard to tell where the track breaks are because the songs change entirely every 30 seconds or so. to be honest, I find it nearly impossible to listen to an entire girl talk album, but I wouldn't miss his live show, which as I said before is way different from his albums (not stylistically, just using the samples differently and dropping different beats and riffs and changing things up all over the place - you never hear someone at a girl talk show yell out "play Oh No!!!"). on the other hand, bassnectar songs are one grating riff repeating for a long fucking time with the occasional air horn or chunky synth breakdown. that, to me, is simplistic. music made up of carefully sliced up pieces of other songs constantly morphing in style and never staying on one thing for more than a few seconds packed with literally thousands of tiny cultural references yet undeniably danceable is, to me, not simplistic.
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Post by pitpat on Jan 15, 2012 18:21:58 GMT -8
Ratatat was the only one of those I even went to see. So wait, you're claiming that it will be better than Bassnectar, but you didn't actually see Bassnectar's performance? Alright then. dude, you could hear that show all the way back at the campsite! seriously though, I checked it out, and moved on. looked like people were having fun, but I found the music simplistic and it didn't make me want to dance. was that the one where the PA was completely cutting out? I seem to remember that happening. I thought it was part of the show.
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Post by pitpat on Jan 15, 2012 17:53:35 GMT -8
plus girl talk would be much better...Shpongle (or any late night set ever up to this point, imo) wut. Best late night set ever if he played? Booka Shade/Bassnectar/Deadmau5/Ratatat/Boys Noize are all better than Girl Talk. Sure it would be fun, but no way would it be the best. yup. you heard right, best ever. but that's my opinion, and I'm just not into wompy glowstick parties (dig the glowsticks, but the music doesn't do anything for me). Ratatat was the only one of those I even went to see. but don't worry, this year's late night sets will almost certainly be Pretty Lights and maybe Shpongle or something like that. like I said before, I think they only put Girl Talk on the late night stage if the EDM kids have something to womp to on the mainstage.
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Post by pitpat on Jan 15, 2012 1:23:38 GMT -8
I hope they don't waste a late set slot on Girl Talk. The only time I have bothered to listen to his stuff it sounded like it was all unoriginal mashups without anything extra that set it apart from any other dj. Have you not attended any of his live sets? Having a wild party as a late night set makes a lot of sense. I'm with freshmentos, it's a fucking crazy party every time this guy plays. perfect for sasquatch any year. plus girl talk would be much better than say... shpongle. (or any late night set ever up to this point, imo) on the other hand, I'm skeptical it would happen... maybe girl talk plays a late night set and Deadmau5 headlines the mainstage? otherwise I predict that set will go to some EDM thing I don't care for. and I'm cool with that.
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Post by pitpat on Jan 8, 2012 16:57:42 GMT -8
hi! I'd say they are only a headliner if they close the mainstage, even though I would argue that the Flaming Lips were more of a draw than Death Cab. so... you both agree and disagree?
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Post by pitpat on Jan 8, 2012 16:19:06 GMT -8
fun!
1. Red Hot Chili Peppers [headliner] 2. Portishead [headliner] 3. Black Keys [headliner] 4. Mumford & Sons [headliner] 5. Bon Iver 6. Arctic Monkeys 7. Fleet Foxes 8. Air 9. Pretty Lights 10. The Shins 11. Edward Sharpe & the Magnetic Zeros 12. Feist 13. War On Drugs 14. Wild Flag 15. WU LYF 16. Tune-Yards 17. St Vincent 18. Fucked Up 19. Allen Stone 20. Bombay Bicycle Club 21. Alabama Shakes
I actually hope I'm wrong about a few of the headliners (like Mumford) and right about a few of the reaches (like Air and St Vincent).
one question - headliner is defined as the top billing on the poster, right? because the slot the FLips played last year (and Pavement the year before) is billed the same or higher than other bands that close the mainstage. so really, you could say there would be 5 headliners this year. just splitting hairs.
bring it on, nerds!
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