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Post by Horned Gramma on Feb 16, 2011 13:43:15 GMT -8
A quick message to the people coming to this board looking for tickets to the now sold out Sasquatch! 2011 Festival:
I know you are frantic to get tickets to the fest. Of course you are - it's fuckin' Sasquatch, and it is going to be awesome. It is of course irritating as fuck to know that tickets would still be available if they hadn't been hoarded by shit-sucking scalpers.
Listen to the voice of experience on this matter: JUST WAIT A COUPLE WEEKS. The majority of people selling tickets at the moment (2/16/11) are scalpers, even if they claim not to be. If you are buying tickets for more than $50 above face, you are buying tickets from a scalper.
If you wait until mid-April or even early May, you will find that Craigslist will have an ample amount of passes for sale from regular people who are no longer able to attend. I know until then you'll be pulling your hair out worrying about 'Will I be able to go?', but when you find someone who is willing to sell you a ticket for what you WOULD have paid for it if it wasn't sold out, it wil be worth it. It will be a search, and it will be a race to beat other people wanting to buy tickets closer to face value, and it will be a huge hassle, but it WON'T BE WORSE THAN PAYING $500 and it WON'T BE WORSE THAN PERPETUATING THE SCALPING TRADE.
Be patient and be diligent and you will be able to find tickets at a reasonable price. Good luck; see you at the Gorge.
-HG
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Post by Catherine Sun Chips on Feb 16, 2011 13:47:45 GMT -8
Before this comment and James Murphy's rant in regards to hatin' on the scalpers for LCD's show, I really was unaware of how freaking sneaky and deceitful people can be when it comes to ticket demands.
I think places like StubHub need to be regulated with caps on ticket prices or something.
Thanks for posting this, HG.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Feb 16, 2011 13:50:57 GMT -8
StubHub needs to be shut down and scalping needs to be legislated. It is a travesty that TicketMaster can run it's own scalping site, I have no idea how they are able to get away with that.
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Post by bungleme on Feb 16, 2011 13:54:37 GMT -8
The TicketBastard "auction" system is like getting mugged at gun-point and then getting beaten by the police when you report the crime. I'm sure that this is the evil multinational corporation referenced in "The Omen."
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Rusty
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Post by Rusty on Feb 16, 2011 14:06:41 GMT -8
I have never understood how stubhub can continue to operate. It is just wrong.
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Post by emptyfox on Feb 16, 2011 14:09:29 GMT -8
Everyone should read this. It has been stickied.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Feb 16, 2011 14:11:38 GMT -8
Thanks emptyfox. I was going to suggest that, but I didn't want to sound self-important.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Feb 16, 2011 14:12:08 GMT -8
I didn't want to sound self-important. And yes, I fully realize how ridiculous that sounds.
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Post by Pea on Feb 16, 2011 15:05:03 GMT -8
TICKETMASTER OWNS STUBHUB! !!!
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Post by StormyPinkness on Feb 16, 2011 15:10:45 GMT -8
Yeah dude, it is a fucking racket.
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Post by Pea on Feb 16, 2011 15:15:15 GMT -8
Jesus Christ. I had no idea...
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Post by bungleme on Feb 16, 2011 15:16:56 GMT -8
Here's where it gets fun, though: Ticketmaster also owns Ticketweb (a supposedly "indie" ticketing company). Couple this with the new "auction" feature and LiveNation begins to look like Mother Teresa. The auction is neat because now, TicketMaster doesn't even have to put their good seats up for sale during the onsale. They just let people bid on the seats that used to be available for all. Thus, a ticket with a face value of $60 goes for $300 instantly, especially since people get locked into that old auction-mentality. What a wonderful world, eh?
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Post by Rusty on Feb 16, 2011 15:41:29 GMT -8
Seriously though, the deeper you dig into the ticket selling industry, the more nauseous you will feel.
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Post by J. Walter Weatherman on Feb 16, 2011 15:48:09 GMT -8
^420th post.
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Post by bungleme on Feb 16, 2011 15:48:16 GMT -8
I still firmly believe that TicketBastard and LiveNation have been in cahoots for years. I remember how much fun it used to be to wait outside a box office overnight to get first shot at tickets that next 10AM. Nowadays, if they even still allowed people to line up (don't think they do), only the first four or five would even have half a shot at it. Between that and Interwebs only sales, concert-going just isn't quite what it used to be.
(bangs cane on floor for emphasis)
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Post by StormyPinkness on Feb 16, 2011 15:51:13 GMT -8
Back in my day you had to walk barefoot in the snow uphill both ways to get tickets and you liked it.
I actually liked it.
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Post by emptyfox on Feb 16, 2011 16:00:36 GMT -8
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Post by Snorlax on Feb 16, 2011 16:10:51 GMT -8
TICKETMASTER OWNS STUBHUB! !!! Holy shit
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Post by Horned Gramma on Feb 16, 2011 16:21:52 GMT -8
There was a big dust-up about it when Springsteen toured a couple years ago; Ticketassmaster itself listed tickets to several shows on that tour on StubHub that hadn't even been sold yet. That's so fucking shady.
And then against all reason, at the beginning of 2010 the Justice Department approved the merger between Ticketmaster and LiveNation. Now think about this: why would Coachella AND Sasquatch both sell out in one week? Just based on ticket sales to these festivals in ALL previous years, how is that even possible? Put the two pieces together: Ticketmaster buying up its own tickets and selling them at scalper prices. A merger occurring roughly a year ago, with roughly a year to plan the assault on the following year's music festival seaon. There's still ticket limits on these things; how many fucking scalpers are there? Enough to buy 60,000 Coachella tickets? Fuck, of course not.
THOSE TICKETS WERE NEVER EVEN ON THE MARKET. TICKETMASTER STILL HAS THEM AND IS SELLING THEM SECOND MARKET.[/i][/u]
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Post by mazdawg on Feb 16, 2011 16:38:43 GMT -8
HGs right on track: www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/01/doj-approves-modified-ticketmaster-live-nation-merger/Livenation and ticketmaster are really one in the same but they don't own Stubhub. They do own ticketweb though. Stubhub just makes it easy for anyone, I mean anyone, to sell tickets to a third party without meeting them. Stubhub just gets a cut from the seller (15%) and the buyer (10%) for just being a middle man. I know this because I've sold some of my sport season tickets on the site (no more than face) when I couldn't give them to my friends. That said, it doesn't mean they don't have any inside track on tickets or some sort of hacking software. Which is what happened in LCD gate... hackers got into ticketmaster and didn't allow anyone to get tickets. I happened to get some tickets during the presale. Lucky me but a lot of fans got tickets but threw them back because they we're holding out better seats and got burned. Can't wait to dress up like Don Johnson and dance my ass off to LCD in April. It makes up for my absence from Sasquatch this year. I could also go on and on and on how ticketmaster sells their own tickets for 3-4 times the value and when they can't sell them they put them on their site for face and sell them. Ever notice how they say tickets become available all the time when tickets are sold out... well how in the hell does that happen. I have some legit ideas but I also have some illegal ones, too that could be legal but are definitely unethical. Ok... sorry about rambling about this.
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