Dancing is not a crime. What we're seeing here is the aftermath of whatever interaction led security to hold her that way in the first place. Showing us this footage without the rest is giving us an incomplete story. And while I appreciate that you're looking for documentation, you've also labeled that video on YouTube with some inflammatory language, so just be up front with us here.
I hope you get some footage of what happened before your friend was held there.
This video was not taken by any of our friends. It was taken by a bystander who was smart enough to turn his camera onto what was taking place. As soon as we all returned home from the festival I looked on Youtube to see if anyone had posted a video showing what happened, just like I would do if I had caught video of anything similar. I agree that the words the poster chose to title the video were extreme and not language I would have personally used, but this youtube user is not associated with us so we can't be held responsible for the video's title.
If you are included in the VAST MAJORITY of people who did not personally have or witness injustice or a negative experience with any security at Sasquatch, then that is WONDERFUL and the way it should be. Just be aware that YOUR experience is YOUR experience, and sadly that it was not that of EVERY SINGLE OTHER ATTENDEE. I'm sure there were many who were justly kicked out or arrested for violence, corn chips, etc. This is a part of what security is there for and I'm assuming most of them performed their duties responsibly while dealing with the public respectfully and with reasonable sense of mind. Unfortunately there ARE the handful of situations like this which get triggered by ego challenges and exceed appropriate response. I can only assume that had this been you, any of you, that you wouldn't feel a bigger deal is being made of this than necessary. We're not saying "DOWN WITH SECURITY!", we're saying THIS specific situation crossed the line into abuse and that knowing this level of aggression is considered unacceptable for non-violent situations is vital to us patrons having trust and faith in those who are designated with the responsibility of keeping 'the peace' and the festival a safe environment.
As for myself, I have been going to music festivals for over ten years all over the country and this is the first time I have personally encountered anything like this happening. It's a tremendously GOOD thing that these occurrences are few and far between, but the rare times they DO happen unjustly they need to be exposed and the people who are given the responsibility of authority need to be held accountable when they misuse that position.
Thankfully, this doesn't happen all or even most of the time. Hopefully you will not have to one day experience for yourself what it is like to have an overly aggressive person in authority project their heightened adrenalin state onto you.
Security has a tough job, no doubt. Mistakes happen. Exposure and accountability can greatly decrease the odds of mistakes like this happening again to someone else. Be grateful for those who are not easily intimidated into beaten down submission when they feel they are being/have been violated and abused.
Post by tripcalifornia on Jun 1, 2011 14:58:36 GMT -5
This post wasn't written to bash security or the festival. The sole porpoise of this comment thread is an attempt to help gather as much additional video/photo documentation as possible regarding this very specific circumstance. The issue is the excessive force that was used here. THAT is the issue. We realize that the idea of this occurring unjustly is a disturbing thought to consider. It is near unbelievable to all of us that witnessed it, but that's what makes it such a big deal. Just because the vast majority of us did not have an experience like this when/if we encountered security does not mean every single person was as fortunate.
It is obviously impossible to 'prove' to anyone who wasn't there what happened in the moment that lead up to our friend being thrown into a choke hold, and so we're not even going to try to plead her case on this forum. If you didn't see it, you didn't see it so it's not part of your reality. Be grateful for that. We were there. We know exactly what happened. We're just hoping to locate the additional footage we saw other people taking of the situation.
If you were on the top part of the hill during Sharon Jones & the Dap Kings and recorded part of the set, please review them and see if any of this may have been included in your video. Again, it began with security ushering dancing people off the middle walkway parallel to the stage.
Post by tripcalifornia on Jun 1, 2011 1:50:09 GMT -5
:-) Yes, she is above legal drinking age. Our whole group was comprised of responsible adults all in our 30's with careers, homes, a dog or two, etc.
I don't blame people for being skeptical. I might be too if this wasn't part of my direct personal experience with my own group of friends.
This really happened. Not every security guard at the festival behaved inappropriately with the people they interacted with. However, in this specific circumstance boundaries were clearly crossed. This isn't about standing up to "the man" or rebelling against authority. This is about standing up to ABUSE.
Post by tripcalifornia on May 31, 2011 23:17:23 GMT -5
Thank you. That is exactly why we are searching out additional video and photos from the multiple people who DID get at least part of it recorded. Until then, just like every other situation, it's just one person's word against another.
Post by tripcalifornia on May 31, 2011 22:54:17 GMT -5
No public intoxication charge, no under the influence charge. Watch the video. This is serious. Please don't turn this into a nonsense thread. We're not interested in having a comment war. We're only interested in keeping this from happening to other responsible paying festival attendees. This time it was our friend. We're trying to keep it from happening to you or your friends.
Thank you all for showing interest and paying attention.
Post by tripcalifornia on May 31, 2011 22:31:09 GMT -5
During Sharon and The Dap Kings on Monday evening a friend from the group I came out to Sasquatch with was dancing in the walkway when security started ushering everyone onto the grass. After dancing her way up onto the grass she was rushed by security, thrown into a tight gripping headlock and then restrained by multiple guards. She is about 5'2", hardly 100lbs, and WAS ONLY DANCING!! Apparently she was "too mouthy" when she protested the excessive force used on her so she was hauled out of the grounds and then arrested. The charges? DISORDERLY CONDUCT and OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE. That's it. Here is a video we came across on YouTube showing what happened after she had already been thrown to the ground. We are asking if anyone else witnessed this and can provide additional video or photos that document what occurred.