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Post by Drew on May 30, 2012 12:19:33 GMT -8
Yeah, we were sitting in Wild Horse watching that line and drinking all afternoon and evening. It was sad.
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Post by Drew on May 30, 2012 12:23:20 GMT -8
The people on drugs late at night aren't the loud and obnoxious assholes. It's the college kids wearing neon that only drink all weekend that are up late screaming and blasting music. The druggies are too busy giggling in their camp chairs or wandering around on explorations. This is true. The problem with District 9 isn't drugs - in fact, there were awesome drugs at Wild Horse, and it was a virtual barter economy of drugs - the problem with District 9 is 20 year olds who don't care about being nice to everyone else, they just want to show how loud and awesome they can be. Wild Horse just has this communal atmosphere. Nobody litters, nobody pukes on your tent, nobody blasts Skrillex outside your tent at 5am. We just eat and drink and make love.
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Post by alex on May 30, 2012 12:23:59 GMT -8
Sounds like shift change.
Anyway, I have a feeling that if/when I make my triumphant return to Sasquatch next year I'll be camping in Wildhorse. My fiancee has never done a multi-day music festival, and I'm not quite convinced that diving right into District 9 will be the best way to ensure she'll have a good time, and thus make it much much easier to attend subsequent 'squatches.
Good thing we've got quite a bit of time before we have to figure that part out.
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Post by PatrickShmatrick on May 30, 2012 20:46:29 GMT -8
speaking of that wagon train into the campground friday afternoon, was anyone behind the RV that tried to pull a U'ey and ended up getting stuck deep into the depths of the side road sands while multitudes of people emerged from there cars to push the immovable rock approximately zero point zero inches?
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Post by scough on May 31, 2012 7:25:46 GMT -8
My friends and I are strongly considering Wildhorse next year after being in Premier the past 4 years and General the year before that. I'll be 28 in a few months and value my sleep more than partying until 5am, and my wife has never been to Sasquatch and wants to go with me in 2013. Much like alex's post above, I'm not sure my lady would want to ever return unless she has a positive camping experience, so count me in with the people likely making the jump to Wildhorse next year.
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Post by Pea on May 31, 2012 7:52:17 GMT -8
Sheesh! We've got a 30, 31, 32, 33, and a couple of 40+ year olds in our group and they keep coming back to general year after year. I'm stupified, y'all... STUPIFIED!
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Post by wonk on May 31, 2012 8:31:27 GMT -8
I recall wishing I had purchased a Wildhorse campsite when we pulled up Friday afternoon to the biggest logjam I've ever experienced at the gorge. Everyone inside the horse were drinking and frisbeeing and I was sitting in traffic. Fuuuuuuuuuck I was in that, it was brutal. Over an hour and a half to get in. Next year continue up I-90 to George, and take Rd 1 NW to the campground. That would have saved an hour of waiting.
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Post by weenie on May 31, 2012 8:51:38 GMT -8
I don't think it's as much of an age thing as we make it out to be, just more of a preference thing. The main reason I strayed away this year was to party with my neighbours. I had great neighbours, but definitely did not do as much after hours partying as I thought I would, so I'm heading back to greener pastures. Plus, if a bunch of us are there this year that would be so much fun!
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Post by scough on May 31, 2012 10:09:31 GMT -8
Fuuuuuuuuuck I was in that, it was brutal. Over an hour and a half to get in. Next year continue up I-90 to George, and take Rd 1 NW to the campground. That would have saved an hour of waiting. Were they actually letting people in from that side? We debated doing just that, but didn't want to be pooped to the back of the line if they wouldn't let us in. We got off I-90 at around 9:15pm on Thursday and finally got to our spot in the campground at almost midnight. It wasn't a good start to the weekend since that ate up an entire night that we could have been hanging out socializing. Wildhorse seems like a much better option than the clusterfuck that the Sasquatch campground was on Thursday night.
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Post by Pea on May 31, 2012 10:14:03 GMT -8
I arrived at 10am on Friday and drove straight in. It was fucking marvelous. If I can't ever arrive on Thursday again then Friday morning is seriously the best option. Coming back at 8pm on Saturday was even smoother. I seriously lucked out with my arrival times.
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Post by wonk on May 31, 2012 11:22:38 GMT -8
Next year continue up I-90 to George, and take Rd 1 NW to the campground. That would have saved an hour of waiting. Were they actually letting people in from that side? We debated doing just that, but didn't want to be pooped to the back of the line if they wouldn't let us in. Yes, they were. When I got close enough to see the campground main entrance, it took me 20 minutes to actually get there. Since the Silica folks had to cross traffic to turn left into the campground, the cop had that traffic stopped while he waived through the Rd 1 crowd (since some of that traffic was heading to day parking at the venue). The only time the cop was waiving us through was when the line on Rd 1 was empty, or there were three or four cars in a row turning into the venue and no through traffic to waive through. The Rd 1 folks were filling up both waiting lines upon entrance, making the wait for the Silica folks even longer.
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Post by fairowen on May 31, 2012 11:26:44 GMT -8
I am also considering premier or wild horse next year. I was just to fucked some mornings to enjoy the bands I wanted to. I also like the idea of breakfast burritos and less camping planning that wild horse would allow.
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Post by Pea on May 31, 2012 11:28:10 GMT -8
General camping had some killer excellent burritos. Gibbons was nice enough to buy me one when I realized I showed up on Friday with no cash on me.
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Post by scough on May 31, 2012 12:57:38 GMT -8
Were they actually letting people in from that side? We debated doing just that, but didn't want to be pooped to the back of the line if they wouldn't let us in. Yes, they were. When I got close enough to see the campground main entrance, it took me 20 minutes to actually get there. Since the Silica folks had to cross traffic to turn left into the campground, the cop had that traffic stopped while he waived through the Rd 1 crowd (since some of that traffic was heading to day parking at the venue). The only time the cop was waiving us through was when the line on Rd 1 was empty, or there were three or four cars in a row turning into the venue and no through traffic to waive through. The Rd 1 folks were filling up both waiting lines upon entrance, making the wait for the Silica folks even longer. That is so ridiculous and just shows their complete incompetence at running the campground. We went to bed around 3am Friday morning and there was still a line on Silica as far as the eye could see. If we for some reason decide against Wildhorse and do Premier again, I'll remember to take Rd 1.
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Post by wonk on May 31, 2012 13:31:21 GMT -8
I still don't understand why Wildhorse is the alternative if you want to avoid the party crowd. What is wrong with Premier?
I'm considering Premier next year. Since I arrived Friday afternoon and ended up in the east side of the campground, I was fifteen minutes away from the camp entrance and the crew who arrived Thursday. 15 minutes each way, two or three trips per day means I would have saved 60-90 minutes of walking per day had I stayed in Premier. That plus a larger camping space is worth the cost.
What makes Wildhorse so much better than Premier anyway? I hear they have a good burger, but the food at the main site has gone from non-existent to pretty darn good over the last few years. I had an awesome steak sandwich, and the Spicy Pie appeared to be open all night. I know Premier is more expensive than Wildhorse, but otherwise I don't get the draw. There is no way in hell I'm standing in a line to cram into a bus to get to my campsite after a long day of partying. You literally couldn't pay me to camp at Wildhorse for that reason. I'm cringing even thinking about that line and bus ride.
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Post by Pea on May 31, 2012 13:38:52 GMT -8
God that Spicy Pie was everything and more that I hoped it would be. I think that's another reason why Coachella has lost a bit of it's appeal with me.
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Post by scough on May 31, 2012 14:36:04 GMT -8
There's probably an equal number of positives and negatives for Premier and Wildhorse. They both have shuttles, food and spacious campsites. The line to get into Wildhorse this year was tiny in comparison to Premier, however if you're in Wildhorse I don't think there's any way to get into the Gorge grounds on Thursday night to get a wristband, so you'd be waiting in a line Friday morning that would equal the campground line you missed by not being in Premier. I think the deciding factor for me is that Wildhorse sounds a lot quieter and the crowd is more mature. In Premier I still fell asleep and woke up to dubstep every day, it just wasn't quite as loud as it would have been in General.
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Post by StormyPinkness on Jun 1, 2012 9:33:24 GMT -8
Fig, I am sorry to hear that. You will be missed!
I feel like some people must have had really shitty spots. I never have any issue going to sleep at Sasquatch. By the end of the day I am so tired that I just pass out. I also heard hardly any dubstep in the campgrounds except for the Red Bull stage. The people around us were playing Caribou, Beta Band, and Daniel Johnston. And the hamburger I had from the campground stand was delicious. I partied hard every day this year but never stayed up much past 3:00 because I wanted to keep raging the next day.
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Post by Drew on Jun 1, 2012 20:13:37 GMT -8
There's probably an equal number of positives and negatives for Premier and Wildhorse. They both have shuttles, food and spacious campsites. The line to get into Wildhorse this year was tiny in comparison to Premier, however if you're in Wildhorse I don't think there's any way to get into the Gorge grounds on Thursday night to get a wristband, so you'd be waiting in a line Friday morning that would equal the campground line you missed by not being in Premier. I think the deciding factor for me is that Wildhorse sounds a lot quieter and the crowd is more mature. In Premier I still fell asleep and woke up to dubstep every day, it just wasn't quite as loud as it would have been in General. You can take your car in and out of wildhorse, and we drove audrey's car over to general once during the weekend, so you can get over there. Also I got my wristband at the tent nearest the entrance on Friday afternoon after the gates had opened and I didn't wait at all.
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Post by scough on Jun 2, 2012 8:56:45 GMT -8
Interesting. All we saw Friday morning were a couple wristband lines that would have probably taken at least an hour to get through. Didn't know there was another line. We went to the tent by the general campground food area on Thursday night and had zero wait, then felt pretty smug in the morning when it seemed like everyone else was in a line.
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