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Post by Drew on Jan 24, 2012 8:32:38 GMT -8
I haven't seen all of them, but I don't think I need to in order to say that Tree of Life and The Artist are easily the two most ambitious and fully-realized movies of the year, and with the exception of Jean Dujardin for best actor, I don't expect either of them to win much, if anything.
Although now that I think about it they both have a good shot at Cinematography and Best Director.
Drew's movies of the year: 1) Tree of Life 2) The Artist 3) Rango 4) Midnight in Paris
99) Everything else
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Post by Horned Gramma on Jan 24, 2012 8:38:50 GMT -8
Only two nominations for Best Original Song this year? That's... odd.
I guess it saves them the time of having to have a half-dozen musical performances during the awards ceremony, but I've seen them do that -- tastefully even -- and still have the show clock in at an even three hours.
Also:
-I think The Muppets got stiffed for Best Adapted. -I'm tired of Alexander Payne getting nominated for every shitty film he makes. Likewise that assclown Spielberg. -Hooray for Woody! He's got Best Original on lock. -DYING to see Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close. HOPING it's better than that miserable adaptation of Everything Is Illuminated.
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Post by wompwomp on Jan 24, 2012 8:38:56 GMT -8
1) 50/50 2) The Muppets 3) Drive 4) Bridesmaids
Tree of Life sucked, The Artist was boring and The Descendants was completely average.
The only thing that made me happy about the nominations was Rooney Mara getting nominated for best actress and Jonah Hill for supporting actor.
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Post by Cbats on Jan 24, 2012 8:41:35 GMT -8
Demian Bichir for "A Better Life" was the biggest curveball by my reckoning. I watched that movie on an airplane. Certainly the most unexpected nomination but I've heard good things about the movie so I didn't mind it. The big thing that I always hate about the oscars is that they nominate manipulative performances (see: Extremely Loud's version of 9/11 porn) far too often. I still need to see the artist but it's the clear frontrunner for best picture right now. The ceremony is a long ways away but don't be shocked if it cleans up Drew
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Post by Pea on Jan 24, 2012 8:43:02 GMT -8
50/50 was so great. I think that and Our Idiot Brother are tied for my favorites of the year.
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Post by Cbats on Jan 24, 2012 8:45:43 GMT -8
-I think The Muppets got stiffed for Best Adapted. This is actually a really fair point. I'm kind of shocked about that as well. At least Bret Mckenzie will probably win best song 1) 50/50 2) The Muppets 3) Drive 4) Bridesmaids I liked all of these movies a lot but this is the Oscars, those are the exact type of movies that they always snub. Maybe I've just gotten used to it at this point but I would have been signifcantly mroe surprised if any of them got serious nominations.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Jan 24, 2012 8:59:16 GMT -8
My favorite thing the Oscar Nominations have ever resulted in was the nomination -- for Best Adapted Screenplay -- that Charlie & Donald Kaufman got for Adaptation.
Meta sandwich on Meta Bread with a little Meta cheese and some Metamatoes.
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Post by Cbats on Jan 24, 2012 9:06:58 GMT -8
The screenplay catagories are always the best ones
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Post by Horned Gramma on Jan 24, 2012 9:12:34 GMT -8
I agree, but to my knowledge Donald Kaufman's Oscar nomination is the only time an imaginary person has received that honor -- unless you count Soderbergh.
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Post by Cbats on Jan 24, 2012 9:27:24 GMT -8
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Post by Horned Gramma on Jan 24, 2012 9:29:17 GMT -8
Yeah, but except for Donald Kaufman those are all pseudonyms. Donald Kaufman was an actual character.
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Post by Cbats on Jan 24, 2012 9:34:37 GMT -8
Well meow we're getting into semantics but Rodrick Jaynes is a real character too.
Kaufman is definitely the coolest example of it though
edit: I was wrong, Jaynes has never appeared on screen (assuming that's what you mean by real character)
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Post by Drew on Jan 24, 2012 9:58:12 GMT -8
No, like, Donald Kaufman does not exist in real life. Charlie Kaufman has no twin brother named Donald Kaufman, yet they listed him as a co-screenwriter. It's like listing Kermit the Frog and the guy that does Kermit's voice for best song.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Jan 24, 2012 10:00:15 GMT -8
Yeah, the difference is that Donald Kaufman doesn't represent any actual person -- he's entirely made up. He has his own personality and everything. Even Roderick Jaynes is basically just a nom de plume.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Jan 24, 2012 10:04:48 GMT -8
It's like listing Kermit the Frog and the guy that does Kermit's voice for best song. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you talking about Drew? The guy that does Kermit's voice? What are trying to say here? There is no guy. C'mon Drew.
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Post by Cbats on Jan 24, 2012 10:24:11 GMT -8
No, like, Donald Kaufman does not exist in real life. Charlie Kaufman has no twin brother named Donald Kaufman, yet they listed him as a co-screenwriter. It's like listing Kermit the Frog and the guy that does Kermit's voice for best song. I understand the point you guys are making, but Donald Kaufman is just a pseudonym of Charlie Kaufman. Obviously he is a fully realized pseudonym with his own personality, but he exists in the exact same way that Jaynes exists. I don't know why we're arguing about this. I think it's awesome that Kaufman was nominated the way he was. The only reason this came up was because HG said that it was the only example he knew of and I linked to some examples of similar situations. Now I need to go dig out my copy of Adaptation
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Post by Catherine Sun Chips on Jan 24, 2012 10:26:43 GMT -8
Wait, but if you're implying Frank Oz, FD, you know he hasn't voiced Kermit in years. Steve whitmire gets the credit for the recent muppet movie.
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Post by Catherine Sun Chips on Jan 24, 2012 10:28:17 GMT -8
Excuse me. I'm incorrect. Henson specifically did kermie. Oz was other voices. My b.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Jan 24, 2012 11:01:28 GMT -8
The difference in the case of Adaptation was that Donald Kaufman was a distinctly different person from Charlie Kaufman in that film. His screenwriting credit was a plot device, as well as an essential component of the punchline.
Adaptation is one of my top five films of all time.
1. Forbidden Zone 2. Punch-Drunk Love 3. I Heart Huckabees 4. Adaptation 5. Brazil
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Post by Cbats on Jan 24, 2012 11:07:09 GMT -8
It's always nice to see someone who loves Punch Drunk Love as much as I do. I've never seen Forbidden Zone so I'll have to check that out.
Adaptation is high on my list but it's probably overshadowed by Eternal Sunshine as far as Kaufman's movies go.
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