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Post by know ID yuh on Jan 6, 2011 14:07:23 GMT -8
Oh me of the infinite ughs! Am I the only one living in 2011? Stamper I like you and everyone else here, but can we all get behind the idea that LESBIANS ARE NOT HAVING SEX WITH EACH OTHER TO FULLFILL LAME MALE FANTASIES! AND THAT LESBIANS ARE NOT IN ANY WAY EXCITED TO BE PART OF SOME CELLULOID ZOO FOR MALE ENTERTAINMENT! But Natalie Portman is not a lesbian, she was just pretending to be one. Therefore, her making out with another chick WAS FOR ME!
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Post by stamper on Jan 6, 2011 14:13:57 GMT -8
Avatar was just on HBO. My favorite part is when Tone Loc starts singing If I'm Gonna Eat Somebody, It Might As Well Be You. Wait. Shit. Nevermind. That was Ferngully.
It's so hard to tell the difference between those two!!!
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Jan 6, 2011 14:18:27 GMT -8
But KNOW, it's not exploitation (the actors said so themselves. ACTORS! Some of them are running your states, they GET IT or whatever.), so Natalie Portman was doing it for art. The Black Swan is art.
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Post by stamper on Jan 6, 2011 14:20:15 GMT -8
...just as No Strings Attached and Thor are sure to be!
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Jan 6, 2011 14:22:14 GMT -8
Oh me of the infinite ughs! Am I the only one living in 2011? Stamper I like you and everyone else here, but can we all get behind the idea that LESBIANS ARE NOT HAVING SEX WITH EACH OTHER TO FULLFILL LAME MALE FANTASIES! AND THAT LESBIANS ARE NOT IN ANY WAY EXCITED TO BE PART OF SOME CELLULOID ZOO FOR MALE ENTERTAINMENT! But Natalie Portman is not a lesbian, she was just pretending to be one. Therefore, her making out with another chick WAS FOR ME! Natalie Portman was pretending to be a lesbian in the same sense that white people were pretending to be black people in the terrible racist old days. Gayface, the new cinema atrocity by white folk.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Jan 6, 2011 14:23:50 GMT -8
...just as No Strings Attached and Thor are sure to be! Stringer Bell is in Thor, so Thor is awsome by proxy. THOR MAHFUKAHS
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Post by stamper on Jan 6, 2011 14:26:16 GMT -8
But Natalie Portman is not a lesbian, she was just pretending to be one. Therefore, her making out with another chick WAS FOR ME! Natalie Portman was pretending to be a lesbian in the same sense that white people were pretending to be black people in the terrible racist old days. Gayface, the new cinema atrocity by white folk. that's a stretch! Attachments:
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Jan 6, 2011 14:29:25 GMT -8
Yeah it was meant as a ridiculous (though substantiated in many other films I must say(Chasing Amy).) last jab at a horse I've already beat, burned and dismantled a few pages back. The Black Swan (NOT AS GOOD AS YOU THINK!).
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Post by Drew on Jan 6, 2011 15:36:09 GMT -8
I can barely keep up with Friendly's arguments. Or non-arguments, or sarcasm, or cryptic Glenn Beck-esque declarations of the truth being revealed in the future. Or typos. This has become a bizarre thread.
Anyway, the other thing about Black Swan I like is the auteur signatures throughout. It's fun, as a fan but not a critic, to be able to identify these signatures throughout a director's career. And I think in Aronofsky's case they're well-thought out artistic choices, and would be clumsy in the hands of another director.
And I'm not even touching the gayface thing.
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Post by Pea on Jan 6, 2011 17:22:00 GMT -8
Friendly's posts in this thread make about as much sense as a someone on acid making philosophical declarations.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Jan 6, 2011 17:49:31 GMT -8
Friendly's posts in this thread make about as much sense as a someone on acid making philosophical declarations. Thanks for the complement! And I won't even make excuses for my spelling, but I already disclosed I dropped out of high school so I think you're just REAL mean for pointing it out. Also it was a super hectic day at work, where the computers already won't acknowledge the spell check icon(computer people probably know why, but I don't) stacking the deck of bad movie, questionable gay comments and grammar police cards against me. But thanks for the dialogue, no hard feelings I'm sure. What was that part about Glen Beck? I'll take this as pure constructive criticism as the distance between his and my (user)name should be preferably plotted in light years.
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Post by Pea on Jan 6, 2011 18:42:23 GMT -8
Haha who said anything about spelling or grammar? I was just admiring your hilarious ramblings.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Jan 6, 2011 18:53:20 GMT -8
The grammar thing was directed at drew, who apparently isn't familiar with "liberal poetic license" even though the guy's a poet laureate or something. And poet laureates are like the card holding authority on "poetic licenses". Get back to school drew! Also I was joking about Mr. Ezra Poundoftherushes being REAL mean and stuff.
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Post by Drew on Jan 6, 2011 20:59:08 GMT -8
You're really fun to read. Don't worry I don't think of you like Glenn Beck in any way, really. And I said typos! I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by Drew on Jan 6, 2011 21:00:08 GMT -8
You're also the king of the cross-out.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Jan 6, 2011 21:15:14 GMT -8
It's a "strike" as my super awesome Home Computer tells me when I put the cursor over it, if I tried any fancy dancy cursor stuff on my Work Computer (boooo!) it would probably collapse the window, spit in my face and then sell my credit card info. Home sweet home!
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Post by ComesWithASword on Jan 6, 2011 22:32:15 GMT -8
Yeah, well I managed to see True Grit AND Yogi Bear and enjoy them both on their own merits. Black Swan and The Fighter are on deck for this weekend. Sounds like you're just a movie snob so it sucks to be you. A good comparison is films like The Garbage Pail Kids Movie, or Mac & Me. Trash, but they are time capsules of trash that age like a fine bum wine. If you have a stick so far up your ass that you'll only go see Oscar-worthy films then you are missing the entire point of American cinema. So A.) yer over-intellectualizing, which makes you a boring person. B.) Yer missing out on some classic cheeze, which over the years holds up better than most of the films that have won Best Picture Oscars in the last twenty years (Shakespeare in Love?? Dances With Wolves?? Crash?? Gladiator?? Fucking DRIVING MISS DAISY?!?) No use for Meet the Fockers, thank you very much, but if you shelled out bucks for Avatar or or Iron Man 2 then you have absolutely no fucking business whatsoever getting hoity-toity with ME about film. You're so off the mark it's hilarious. I really can't understand you're line of thinking. Because I made fun of you liking Yogi Bear then I am automatically over intellectualizing? I am a movie snob and a boring person? Lawlz Yogi Bear is obviously a piece of shit movie. It is. I don't even need to see it for confirmation. Meet the Fockers is also obviously a piece of shit movie. Now, follow along here: The joke is, you've admitted to liking such (as you've been known to call types of music) lowest common denominator shit (ie. Yogi Bear) that it would be possible for someone like you to go see another movie that is lowest common denominator shit (Meet the Fockers). Get it? Both those movies are aimed at the same demographic, and since you already admitted to liking one, it's funny to think you'd like the other. Great, I'm glad I could clear up that completely innocent joke that you took way too personally. Now, don't think you can school me on trash movies. In fact, I find many of these 80's/90's bad teen comedies and scholck horror/ exploitation to be to most intersesting viewing experiences. I've seen The Garbage Pail Kids Movie and Mac & Me. I don't find either of those particularly enjoyable, but maybe next time im in whatever the fuck place you're from (portland i think?) then we can smoke a few joints and watch a double bill of Teenage Mutant Nija Turtles and Teen Wolf, or possibly a back to back of both Short Circuits (the second one isn't nearly as awesome as the first tho), okay? The academy awards don't hold any weight with me. I don't know why you think they would (oh right, because I didn't like yogi bear). Driving miss daisy is like the most boring movie ever, I don't even remember finishing it. I HATE Crash. seriously hate it. Gladiator? Maybe when I was 10. Shakespeare in Love is great though! But I could care less that it beat out saving private whoever for best picture.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Jan 6, 2011 23:01:26 GMT -8
The thing that makes movies like Yogi Bear great and very watchable is the simple fact that they don't pretend to be anything else. The tired stereotyping and blatant pandering that riddle every mainstream comedy sucks all the Focker no fun out of everything. Movies like Yogi have many of the same trappings, but because they are intended for kids it is severely ed down to a much tolerable level. At it's best the comedy is consistently more creative and clever than "adult" (like go away already adults, do your taxes or something) comedy. At "Focker Comedy's" best it's always the worst (EVERYTIME, GO AWAY FOCKERS!). Plus add a freeing sense of child like wonderment to the mix and you can see some real magic happen (I hate that sentence but I stand by it). Yogi isn't painfully pandering to the lame ass ideas of "Guys leave the toilet seat up" and "Girls can't find a man who listens", because it's trying to impress 8 year olds, and they are weirdly harder to impress than 28 year olds. Either way, at the end of the day you get something that is what it is all the way through, not self-important whoopshit like Crash, where we all painfully knew real life people who were moved by it's contrived racism ridiculousness. That, I don't get (You People have been dooped, grow some eyes!). A bear busting his noggin' off a log and people laughing, I get that. Also not to rip on you, but TMNT is not the same idea as the Garbage Pale Kids.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Jan 6, 2011 23:12:36 GMT -8
For the record, I don't care if you take movies too seriously (WE ALL TAKE THINGS TOO SERIOUSLY NOW AND THEN). But Gramma's point is valid (about the Yogi vs. Fockers), if you seriously believe they are one and the same then it's only going to lead to you (the general you's out there, talking to YOU) substituting your sociology classes for repeated Crash viewings and drooling over the Black Swan.
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Post by Pea on Jan 6, 2011 23:27:23 GMT -8
Holy shit. I'm never coming back to this thread again.
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