Rusty
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Post by Rusty on Oct 2, 2013 14:11:21 GMT -8
Classic Gramma.
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Rusty
North American Scumfoot
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Post by Rusty on Oct 2, 2013 14:26:27 GMT -8
Actually I just watched that SNL shit, it was pretty cringe worthy for me. But I still dig their music.
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Post by Dr. Crane on Oct 2, 2013 17:08:51 GMT -8
Arcade Fire did a much better job of opening for Bjork than Nas did.
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Post by stingray on Oct 3, 2013 5:47:27 GMT -8
3.) Pitchfork has been too busy drowning in its own backlash (since 2006) to provide any relevant music commentary. There are innumerable valid criticisms of Pitchfork but denying their relevancy is just silly. Pea was joking on the last page about Deafheaven but the sentiment in general is completely serious, bands get booked for festivals solely because they got support on Pitchfork. Bingo. In general, I feel like "hipster" is a term that has really outgrown itself as far as being a competent means of categorizing music...if it ever was...but for the sake of argument, if we're using hipster as a tag for bands that get good reviews or exposure on Pitchfork, then yes indeed, Squatch and pretty much all other festivals stake a good amount of their livelihood on catering to hipster crowds. There is a substantial contingent of people today who get literally all of their musical taste from a single website, and no festival organizer is foolish enough to ignore that Now, would Sasquatch ever book a black metal band, or for that matter any extreme metal band? Probably not. But for what it's worth, I suspect the whole two Sasquatches thing, besides being an obvious money grab, is a way of expanding just what exactly Sasquatch can be, specifically in terms of line-up. Not saying we're about to get the West Coast's answer to the Maryland Deathfest, but I think branching out and including more acts beyond what we'd typically expect out of a Squatch line-up is an inevitability. And if so, it's only natural to assume that they'd start with groups that are more hipster-friendly...like Deafheaven. Who are actually a quality band outside of their big red Pitchfork-approved stamp, but there you go. tl;dr: Agoraphobic Nosebleed confirmed.
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Post by jefftrap 3.33 on Oct 3, 2013 8:41:47 GMT -8
I would love to see Arcade Fire at Sasquatch. They were amazing when I saw them during the Suburbs tour, probably one of the best shows I have been to. The new music sounds pretty good, but I wasn't a huge fan of how it was presented on SNL.
As some have said before Chance or Action Bronson would be cool choices. I think someone like A$AP Rocky has a decent chance of being at Sasquatch, but I would prefer to see more of the smaller acts. Despot was incredible opening for Run the Jewels when I saw them. His new music sounds great and is festival-friendly (hopefully he finally puts his album out.) A Danny Brown repeat would probably be unlikely, but I am really enjoying his new album. Admittedly, I don't think that Drake's new album is completely awful but I wouldn't want a headliner spot going to someone like him.
I think TV on the Radio have a good chance of showing up and I personally would love to see them booked. I would also love for the National to be there, as I still have not seen them live. Grizzly Bear might be nearly done touring for Shields but I can dream! Animal Collective would be an amazing choice as well. I haven't listened to the new Dismemberment Plan album but I love most of the older stuff. I know they've been playing some shows and it would be nice to see them show up at Sasquatch.
Four Tet's new album is pretty good and I agree with the many of you that want a Sasquatch appearance!
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 3, 2013 8:54:56 GMT -8
It baffles me how you can listen to any of their new material and claim they're "sanding down the edges." They are recording fucking disco songs, dude. It's like Muse recording a dubstep album. They're like, this is what the kids are listening to, right? I've managed to find the majority of their songs innocuously ignorable for the last ten years but this new shit sets my teeth on edge. Seriously, though, you should go read the Edward Nutsack thread in the Hall of Fame if you're still thinking that I don't know what I'm talking about or that you can change my mind. Listening to twenty-something males attempt to explain why Arcade Fire is the greatest, most meaningful thing in the world is like listening to twelve-year-old girls attempting to explain why Justin Bieber is the greatest, most meaningful thing in the world. Tell it to someone who already agrees with you, because this chump ain't buying.
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Post by Jefferin Jeffotash on Oct 3, 2013 9:12:16 GMT -8
Well that is the beauty of Sasquatch, all of us plebs without a thought in our heads can go watch Arcade Fire, if they are even booked since we are still talking in hypotheticals, and you and the other patricians can go watch whatever is booked at the Bigfoot or Dance Tent. Then we call all argue about how stupid we all are after the festival, as is tradition.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 3, 2013 9:51:10 GMT -8
I was standing at a bus stop smoking a cigarette a couple of weeks ago. A woman in her fifties came up to the bus stop and stood five feet downwind from me. Trying to be polite, I moved five feet downwind of her so I wouldn't be huffing acrid lungsmoke into her face. As if trying to prove a point, she then moved again -- back to five feet downwind of me. Then she started bitching at me for smoking. I told her that I was obviously trying not to smoke at her, and then I told her this: If you're going to have a bitchfit every fucking time you walk past a person smoking on the sidewalk, you are going to have a very long and unhappy life.My point, in this context, being this: if you're going to take it as a personal attack every time someone talks shit about a band you like, be prepared to feel like you are under siege at all fucking times. I didn't call you a fucking plebian, cheese. All I have said is that I don't like Arcade Fire, and -- ostensibly more interesting, even to a fan -- I have said why I don't like Arcade Fire. If that's not why we're here, then I don't fucking know why we're here (READ: that's why we're here and if that's not why YOU'RE here, you can fuck off). If I was talking shit to you personally, I can guaran-fucking-a-frog-on-a-cracker-tee that there wouldn't be any ambiguity about it. You would know. I am also entirely certain that if you spent half as much time listening to the music that I enjoy as I have spent listening to the bullshit that you listen to all day, you'd hate it at least as much as I hate Arcade Fire. I imagine you'd have something to say about it, too, and I would welcome that. If you want to sit around with a group of people that just wants to jack each other off while they congratulate each other on how much they all like Arcade Fire, then go here: forums.arcadefire.net/ Otherwise, stop quoting your history 101 textbook at me and grow another layer of skin.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 3, 2013 9:55:28 GMT -8
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Post by Jefferin Jeffotash on Oct 3, 2013 10:53:40 GMT -8
I was standing at a bus stop smoking a cigarette a couple of weeks ago. A woman in her fifties came up to the bus stop and stood five feet downwind from me. Trying to be polite, I moved five feet downwind of her so I wouldn't be huffing acrid lungsmoke into her face. As if trying to prove a point, she then moved again -- back to five feet downwind of me. Then she started bitching at me for smoking. I told her that I was obviously trying not to smoke at her, and then I told her this: If you're going to have a bitchfit every fucking time you walk past a person smoking on the sidewalk, you are going to have a very long and unhappy life.My point, in this context, being this: if you're going to take it as a personal attack every time someone talks shit about a band you like, be prepared to feel like you are under siege at all fucking times. I didn't call you a fucking plebian, cheese. All I have said is that I don't like Arcade Fire, and -- ostensibly more interesting, even to a fan -- I have said why I don't like Arcade Fire. If that's not why we're here, then I don't fucking know why we're here (READ: that's why we're here and if that's not why YOU'RE here, you can fuck off). If I was talking shit to you personally, I can guaran-fucking-a-frog-on-a-cracker-tee that there wouldn't be any ambiguity about it. You would know. I am also entirely certain that if you spent half as much time listening to the music that I enjoy as I have spent listening to the bullshit that you listen to all day, you'd hate it at least as much as I hate Arcade Fire. I imagine you'd have something to say about it, too, and I would welcome that. If you want to sit around with a group of people that just wants to jack each other off while they congratulate each other on how much they all like Arcade Fire, then go here: forums.arcadefire.net/ Otherwise, stop quoting your history 101 textbook at me and grow another layer of skin. My apologies, my intent was not to put words in your mouth or to insinuate that you were personally attacking me. You are more than right that you have made your opinions on that specific band very clear. Maybe it is my general lack of intelligence that makes me speak in a self-deprecating nature, and it comes off like I am taking offense to a difference of opinion. My intention with that comment was just to bring focus back to the idea that the great thing about music festivals is that we don't all have to focus on the bands or groups that we don't like, because there are plenty of other activities/bands/dj's performing elsewhere so in effect there is something for everyone to enjoy. That is what my post was trying to highlight, the fun part of coming back together after the festival and talking about who saw what and getting everyone's take on the weekend because there are tens of thousands of stories that can be shared and they are all different. I probably should step back and lurk more because I feel like I truly am not smart enough to converse with you and some of the others here because I am always either annoying someone or saying something that is unclear and perceived as being butt hurt about being attacked or making a comment that is attacking in nature. I now understand more than ever that during the offseason this forum is a gathering point for a small group of friends and due to actions of my own I am only on the outside looking in and that I should step back until we get closer to the pre-sale and the time lineup news starts coming out and more people start to in. Thanks for taking the time to educate me and to clarify your opinions and I never meant any disrespect to you or anyone else who posts here.
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Post by rimjobflashmob on Oct 3, 2013 10:57:23 GMT -8
They are recording fucking disco songs, dude. It's like Muse recording a dubstep album. They're like, this is what the kids are listening to, right? I've managed to find the majority of their songs innocuously ignorable for the last ten years but this new shit sets my teeth on edge. Context matters, their new album is produced by James Murphy, the disco-savant of DFA. Last I checked LCD Soundsystem, despite their demise, was pretty widely enjoyed. Also, unlike Muse's foray into dubstep, their disco songs are pretty fucking good. I'm not trying to say that Arcade Fire is the end-all be-all for modern rock music but dismissing them out of hand as "SO OVER!" makes you sound like Fred Armisen from Portlandia.
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Rusty
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Post by Rusty on Oct 3, 2013 10:58:16 GMT -8
As per usual you're not directly attacking any one person. But the way you talk about Arcade Fire with such certainty and absoluteness, it leaves very little ambiguity as to how you feel about the people that enjoy their music.
I basically TL;DR every statement you've ever made about the band as: "No offense (but offense implied) but you are an idiot if you like Arcade Fire" .
So when people get defensive, which lets be clear here IS NOT ME, I think it's because it comes off like you're calling them stupid; basically that their taste in music is inferior to yours.
Although the reason I don't ever argue about music with you is because with your extensive knowledge on the subject, you probably are right. Sometimes it truly does feel like I am a 14 year old girl defending the Biebs .
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 3, 2013 11:05:39 GMT -8
Oh, now, don't be like that. It's all in good fun, I know that. As long as you know that too then it's not even a thing. This forum IS a gathering place for a group of friends during the off-season, but it wasn't always that way. See how me and Pea were talking to each other in that Edward Nutsack thread? God damn, we hated each other back then. Now he's one of my favorite dudes in the world. It comes around. I say with a completely open heart that you should come around to one of the big board dork-outs one of these times. You won't believe the sheer number of hugs you'll receive.
And don't be self-conscious about your intelligence, man. On the internet? The internet is no place for that. Don't ever make apologies for yourself on the fucking internet. The people without enough brain cells to hack it on this board don't last anywhere near as long as you have. You're "in", as far as anyone here is concerned. Y'all just got Gramma'd. It doesn't happen very often anymore -- all this Arcade Fire talk clearly brought it to the surface -- but that's no reason to retreat.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 3, 2013 11:08:03 GMT -8
As per usual you're not directly attacking any one person. But the way you talk about Arcade Fire with such certainty and absoluteness, it leaves very little ambiguity as to how you feel about the people that enjoy their music. I basically TL;DR every statement you've ever made about the band as: "No offense (but offense implied) but you are an idiot if you like Arcade Fire" . So when people get defensive, which lets be clear here IS NOT ME, I think it's because it comes off like you're calling them stupid; basically that their taste in music is inferior to yours. Although the reason I don't ever argue about music with you is because with your extensive knowledge on the subject, you probably are right. Sometimes it truly does feel like I am a 14 year old girl defending the Biebs . Haha, yeah I do that. I own every Chumbawamba album ever recorded, though, so you can and should take all of my sweeping, declarative statements with a huge-ass grain of salt.
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Post by rimjobflashmob on Oct 3, 2013 11:10:13 GMT -8
Oh, now, don't be like that. It's all in good fun, I know that. As long as you know that too then it's not even a thing. This forum IS a gathering place for a group of friends during the off-season, but it wasn't always that way. See how me and Pea were talking to each other in that Edward Nutsack thread? God damn, we hated each other back then. Now he's one of my favorite dudes in the world. It comes around. I say with a completely open heart that you should come around to one of the big board dork-outs one of these times. You won't believe the sheer number of hugs you'll receive. I can vouch for this, which is one of the reasons I get a kick out of having 'heated' debates with Gramma on here. It's entertaining and occasionally illuminating, and afterwards we have a mammal battle.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 3, 2013 11:58:06 GMT -8
TWO MAMMALS ENTER
TWO MAMMALS LEAVE
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Post by badchoices on Oct 3, 2013 12:26:38 GMT -8
I'm not sure what Talib Kweli is up to these days, but he would fit in nicely too. Blackstar would be one of my wish list acts. **Not sure why this is lumped into your quote...oh well.
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Post by Professor Pancakes on Oct 3, 2013 12:32:05 GMT -8
]Blackstar would be one of my wish list acts. Mos Def. (As in "Most definitely" and also "the other guy in Blackstar")
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Post by badchoices on Oct 3, 2013 12:53:03 GMT -8
]Blackstar would be one of my wish list acts. Mos Def. (As in "Most definitely" and also "the other guy in Blackstar") Yeah, I meant I wasn’t sure why my Blackstar post went into your quote rather than being below your quote. I was just thinking we should probably have top holograms you want to see at Sasquatch thread...just kidding. I don’t know what I think about all of these holograms popping up. I hope that we don’t have any holograms at Sasquatch. Or maybe I am being a “get off my lawn” type of guy when I say that?
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Post by Professor Pancakes on Oct 3, 2013 16:31:10 GMT -8
Maybe we'll get Kris Novocelic and Dave Grohl with hologram Kurt Cobain.
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