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Post by Geoff on Apr 2, 2012 7:25:21 GMT -8
Yes.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Apr 2, 2012 8:25:20 GMT -8
I love this. Also: So is that actually Ms. Burrito's tattoo, or was that part of the spoofum? |
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Apr 2, 2012 9:14:10 GMT -8
I meant to post this when I got back from my trip.
How's this for a David Lynch moment:
It happened while we were staying at a very Lynchian Motel in Turner Valley and decided to head out to a bar called 'Cougers'. My friend always has some crazy wacky hair and on this particular day he happened to have much crazier hair on one side of his head more than the other. Close to the end of the night a older woman (in her 60's maybe) came up to him and pointed at his head then said, "Do you only have bad dreams on one side of your head?".
I don't know why, but that sent chills down all of our spines. Simultaneously, it is one of the most awesome things I've ever heard.
... Do you only have bad dreams on one side of your head?
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Post by Horned Gramma on Apr 2, 2012 9:15:18 GMT -8
That is incredibly creepy, and also weirdly poetic. So yeah, total David Lynch moment.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Apr 2, 2012 9:18:41 GMT -8
That is incredibly creepy, and also weirdly poetic. So yeah, total David Lynch moment. It was weirdly poetic. |
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Apr 2, 2012 10:04:49 GMT -8
Personally I love diving into the material and people and who've inspired my favorite artists. I thought it'd be fun to compile a list of films (or whatever else) that you genuinely believe inspired David Lynch.
Some of these are probably going to be no brainers, but I'm sure we'll discover some gems along the way. I'll try to keep this post updated with all the material we can come up with.
Robert Aldrich's Kiss Me Deadly and The Big Knife are packed with Lynchian moments. They both have a distinct Lost Highway vibe to me. Some of the style and sets in LH have got to be paying homage to these two amazing film noirs. The burning Beach House at the end of Kiss Me Deadly and Stanley Hoff's sinister, eccentric, and dangerous Badass studio boss in The Big Knife have got to be Lynch giving out a nod. Even the opening credits of The Big Knife look like they were directed by Lynch.
Sunset Boulevard is an obvious one. I say obvious because I've read that he loves this movie. If you've never seen this film before and you like David Lynch you definitely should watch it. Packs the same emotional punch within an absurd and bizarre landscape like many Lynch movies.
John Schlesinger's Day of the Locust and Mulholland Drive have many similarities. There is a similar tone in both films and the San Bernardino apartments complex has always reminded my of Betty's aunt's apartment complex. The ending of Day of the Locusts looks exactly like the type of hellish scene David Lynch would direct.
Carnival of Souls probably has some of the most Lynch-like themes and styles. It presents it's characters in a wholesome suburban environment then delves into some teenage badassery which leads to a woman navigating her way through two realities. It's got that whole "small town surrealism" thing going on.
I don't want to hog all the suggestions and I am eagerly awaiting to see what other recommendations we can dig up!
Movies
Kiss Me Deadly
The Big Knife
Sunset Boulevard
Day of the Locust
Carnival of Souls
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Post by Dr. Crane on Apr 2, 2012 16:08:10 GMT -8
Also: So is that actually Ms. Burrito's tattoo, or was that part of the spoofum? It's real, which adds to my befuddlement. Ms. Burrito is usually the ultimate spoofer. |
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Post by Horned Gramma on Apr 3, 2012 8:38:56 GMT -8
Carnival of Souls is a miracle of a film. I read once -- or possibly heard it in the commentary for that film on its Criterion DVD release -- that it is a metaphor for being a non-LDS person living in Utah. The young woman in that film becomes invisible to everyone around her and is pursued by a sinister invisible being (her conscience). It was filmed in Salt Lake City, with several subtle shots of Temple Square, and the climactic waltz scene is filmed in the spectacularly creepy Saltair Pavilion, which is actually still a functioning concert venue just outside SLC in the salt flats:  I can vouch for the fact that it is still haunted.
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Post by The Log Lady on Apr 10, 2012 21:40:22 GMT -8
Thought you would enjoy this  My favorite part: "Chris, you're going to be 'Petey'. You're gonna set your hair on fire. We'll talk about it." |
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Apr 11, 2012 5:24:21 GMT -8
Awesome.
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Post by Geoff on Apr 17, 2012 9:48:08 GMT -8
So... I just finished Twin Peaks... it just ends like that?
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Post by Horned Gramma on Apr 17, 2012 15:27:27 GMT -8
You have to watch the movie now.
It explains a lot.
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Post by Geoff on Apr 17, 2012 21:28:03 GMT -8
You have to watch the movie now. It explains a lot. I started watching it today, but I had to turn it off about 20 minutes in to do stuff. I'll probably finish it tomorrow. |
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Post by Geoff on Apr 28, 2012 12:04:00 GMT -8
So just finished Fire Walk With Me...
So I don't get it. I thought it was going to tell me what happened to Cooper?
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Post by Horned Gramma on Apr 28, 2012 16:42:38 GMT -8
It did.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Apr 28, 2012 16:46:25 GMT -8
So, Cooper compromised his sense of self by becoming emotionally invested in Annie, Heather Graham's character. This compromise got Annie killed, and because of this when Cooper's soul was tested, or 'weighed', in the Black Lodge it was found unworthy and Cooper's soul was kept there.
However, this was for the greater good because of all the people in Twin Peaks, ultimately ONLY Laura was judged worthy to move through the Black Lodge. When Laura reached the Black Lodge, Cooper's soul was still there (because even though Cooper arrived in the Black Lodge after Laura did, the Black Lodge is a place out of time) and Cooper acted as her guide through the final rooms of the Black Lodge. When Laura saw the Angel at the end of Fire Walk With Me, she moved on through to the White Lodge, or Heaven, and Agent Cooper was there to hold her hand through the process. It's actually very beautiful. |
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Post by Geoff on Apr 28, 2012 17:17:28 GMT -8
So, Cooper compromised his sense of self by becoming emotionally invested in Annie, Heather Graham's character. This compromise got Annie killed, and because of this when Cooper's soul was tested, or 'weighed', in the Black Lodge it was found unworthy and Cooper's soul was kept there.
However, this was for the greater good because of all the people in Twin Peaks, ultimately ONLY Laura was judged worthy to move through the Black Lodge. When Laura reached the Black Lodge, Cooper's soul was still there (because even though Cooper arrived in the Black Lodge after Laura did, the Black Lodge is a place out of time) and Cooper acted as her guide through the final rooms of the Black Lodge. When Laura saw the Angel at the end of Fire Walk With Me, she moved on through to the White Lodge, or Heaven, and Agent Cooper was there to hold her hand through the process. It's actually very beautiful. Yeah I didn't get any of that from watching the movie. But I guess I get it. |
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Apr 28, 2012 17:37:22 GMT -8
More for Geno. Some more info on the last episode, the Lodges and Cooper's fate.
Like Gramma said, the Black Lodge is a place out of time and there are numerous places on the internet that have all the quotes and references in the show that allude to this. The gist of the last episode from what I've gathered and heard/read goes pretty much exactly like Gramma outlined.
Here's an explanation from the net that covers a lot and has a cool part about the Caroline/Annie storyline and how Bob and the Black Lodge tie into the events that happened in Pittsburgh.
"When Cooper enters the BL in the final scenes, it is fairly clear what happens -- he meets his doppleganger, he faces it with imperfect courage (he runs from it), and when his doppleganger contacts him, his soul is annihilated. His body is then free to be inhabited by BOB when it returns to the physical world. Coop actually loses his soul in the BL to Earle, when he agrees to Earle's deal to let Annie live. Earle takes Coop's soul with the act of stabbing him in the BL. Note that it seems that anything that happens to physical characters in the BL must also happen in the WL world, but because of the relative time-scales things don't happen in the same order. Thus, when Coop is stabbed by Earle in the BL it is the same act that occurred in Pittsburg in our past. Also note that in the BL Coop comes across the dead body of Caroline. In the BL, prior to taking Coop's soul, Earle has killed Caroline and taken her soul. He was able to take her soul because she is not one of the 'gifted'.
However, Coop is one of the gifted, and as such Earle does not have the right to take his soul. BOB then intervenes to turn back time (remember that Earle has earlier stated that the power of the BL is such that one could re-order the world to suit one's self -ep26). The hint that BOB is interfering with temporal progression within the BL is that Coop begins to bleed from the wound inflicted by Earle before it occurs, the bleeding gradually gets worse, up until the moment the wound occurs, at which point it stops. So, Coop still has his soul when it is annihilated by his doppleganger (which is probably what BOB wanted all along). But if Caroline's wound in the BL is echoed in the WL, that would mean that she would have to have been present physically (like Coop is). I think that the soul of Caroline is actually in Annie. Recall the strange links between Annie and Caroline in the BL when one speaks as if she is the other, and their images alternate (ep29).
Earle took possession of Caroline's soul, but when BOB takes the soul of Earle, her soul is again free. When she was younger Annie attempted suicide, and this was Caroline's chance to inhabit a body whose soul was eager to give up possession. She then sought and eventually found Coop, so that they could be reunited (although Annie isn't consciously aware of this). So, ironically, when Earle brings Annie into the BL, he sets off a circular chain of events that eventually lead up to him bringing Annie into the BL! The stabbing happens to Caroline and not Annie in our world, because at the time the stabbing occurred, the body holding the soul of Caroline was Caroline's body, not Annie's.
[ note that when BOB leaves Leland he[BOB] says "I have this thing for knives. Just like that thing that happened to you in Pittsburg that time, huh Cooper?" Bob knows about this incident not because he actually performed the stabbing, but because in a sense he was there (in the BL version of events at least)." |
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Post by Geoff on Apr 28, 2012 17:40:24 GMT -8
This is all very confusing.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Apr 28, 2012 17:41:50 GMT -8
This is all very fucking amazing! |
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My favorite part: "Chris, you're going to be 'Petey'. You're gonna set your hair on fire. We'll talk about it."