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Post by Pea on Dec 11, 2011 10:06:50 GMT -8
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Post by Lump on Dec 11, 2011 10:08:10 GMT -8
does anybody really know how radius clauses actually work? I believe we came to the conclusion before that it really only applies to the higher-up bands, and for that matter that I'm sure the contract varies from band to band because using the same circumstances for each band would just be silly.
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Post by davers on Dec 11, 2011 10:52:42 GMT -8
I believe we came to the conclusion before that it really only applies to the higher-up bands, and for that matter that I'm sure the contract varies from band to band because using the same circumstances for each band would just be silly. That makes the most sense. Lots of the lower end bands are from the NW and play all kinds of shows before and after the festival. Hell, even Massive Attack played Vancouver the night after their performance at Sasquatch.
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Post by Cbats on Dec 11, 2011 11:06:45 GMT -8
does anybody really know how radius clauses actually work? I believe we came to the conclusion before that it really only applies to the higher-up bands, and for that matter that I'm sure the contract varies from band to band because using the same circumstances for each band would just be silly. My understanding is that it applies to all bands but you can ask for an exception and they'll often grant it. That said, I'm fairly sure that even if that exception is granted, they wouldn't be allowed to announce a show before the sasquatch lineup is announced.
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Post by Pea on Dec 11, 2011 11:32:16 GMT -8
NO NO NO NONE OF US UNDERSTAND THE FIRST THING ABOUT RADIUS CLAUSES. WE JUST THINK WE KNOW BECAUSE WE'VE DISCUSSED THEM TO DEATH AND ARE NOW CONVINCED THAT OUR SPECULATIONS ARE FACTS.
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Post by davers on Dec 11, 2011 12:52:37 GMT -8
The first thing to understand about radius clauses is that they are about as predictable as... I dunno something not very predictable. Brain is functioning at a lower capacity than normal today, which isnt saying much.
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Post by jeffmac on Dec 11, 2011 13:03:38 GMT -8
Vancouver and Portland are fine, usually you aren't allowed to play Seattle within a couple months, but as has been stated that has been debunked considering TV on the Radio played Seattle a week before or so with Dirty Projectors in 09 and such. So anyones guess is up for grabs. I just hope M83 still plays, but who knows.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Dec 11, 2011 13:06:44 GMT -8
"The conversation then turned to "Radius Clauses", lines in festival contracts that prohibit artists from performing within a certain mile radius within a time period before and after the festival. Capps stated it helps to "ensure 10-15 of my artists aren't playing another festival down the street the same weekend." Both organizers said the distance clause was a loose rule rather than a hard and fast one and it was always negotiable. Said Capps, "We always want our festival to have a unique character but we don't arbitrarily eliminate. There are no rules." www.examiner.com/festivals-in-nashville/bonnaroo-bumbershoot-organizers-talk-festivals-at-americana-music-conference
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Dec 11, 2011 13:07:53 GMT -8
I know this is in regards to Bonnaroo and Bumbershoot, but since every festival is every festival I would just go by this.
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Post by davers on Dec 11, 2011 13:16:44 GMT -8
Vancouver and Portland are fine, usually you aren't allowed to play Seattle within a couple months, This begs another question though; how many Sasquatch attendees are actually from Seattle? Without throwing out any made up numbers, an overwhelming amount of people I meet every year arent from Seattle or the surrounding burbs. If you are going to restrict acts from playing shows in cities your attendees are from, you'd probably have to do better than just Seattle to make a huge impact. I wonder how closely Livenation follows or cares about what areas purchase what percentage of the tickets.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Dec 11, 2011 13:24:07 GMT -8
"The conversation then turned to "Radius Clauses", lines in festival contracts that prohibit artists from performing within a certain mile radius within a time period before and after the festival. Capps stated it helps to "ensure 10-15 of my artists aren't playing another festival down the street the same weekend." Both organizers said the distance clause was a loose rule rather than a hard and fast one and it was always negotiable. Said Capps, "We always want our festival to have a unique character but we don't arbitrarily eliminate. There are no rules." www.examiner.com/festivals-in-nashville/bonnaroo-bumbershoot-organizers-talk-festivals-at-americana-music-conferenceThere is no reason to speculate anything beyond the above. Mystery solvedTake 'em away Friendly Destroyer
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Post by Horned Gramma on Dec 11, 2011 13:52:43 GMT -8
Bake 'em away, toys.
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Post by davers on Dec 11, 2011 14:04:27 GMT -8
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Dec 11, 2011 14:08:25 GMT -8
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Post by romanticizer on Dec 11, 2011 14:47:50 GMT -8
I'm getting so damn irritable about the secrecy of 2012. At least change the logo on the website? I'm breaking down. So dark. Barren. Quiet. *coughs*
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Post by interstateeight on Dec 11, 2011 17:39:04 GMT -8
The next time I see a discussion about how radius clauses work I'm deleting all the posts. You are all officially on notice.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Dec 11, 2011 19:20:21 GMT -8
Why wait until next time?
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Post by Cbats on Dec 11, 2011 19:45:28 GMT -8
cause then people might miss Friendly D's post and start this argument again later
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Post by interstateeight on Dec 11, 2011 20:06:47 GMT -8
Half that, half "I like to warn people before I start deleting their posts." I obviously made an exception for you and Pea but that was funny. Otherwise, take the short rumors thread -- I told everyone I'd delete non-essential posts there and I have been. And we've all been cool about it.
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Post by jeffmac on Dec 11, 2011 22:40:05 GMT -8
Rumored: Bon Iver
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