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Post by J-Dawg on Jun 24, 2011 22:51:00 GMT -8
Well, I can't imagine using vicks vaporub as a some sort of sub to highdrugs, but stranger things have happened.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2011 22:52:24 GMT -8
That's pretty fucking classy if it's true!
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Post by sagesquatch on Jun 25, 2011 9:43:53 GMT -8
Well, I can't imagine using vicks vaporub as a some sort of sub to highdrugs, but stranger things have happened. Generally Vicks is used IN ADDITION to said highdroogz. but I don't know why a gas mask would be necessary (i.e. it isn't).
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Post by Shaxspear III Esq. on Jun 25, 2011 11:24:33 GMT -8
Yeah the reason for it is for vapor rub. It's an ecstacy thing. It used to be really popular back when I went to parties. When you're rolling it just really opens up your sinuses and kind of gives you a rush like "poppers" (amyl nitrates) but without any of the side effects. Its also really handy if you're dancing beside a person who forgot their deoderant. I use it when I'm working and I have a rancid smelling patient.
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Post by Shaxspear III Esq. on Jun 25, 2011 13:27:00 GMT -8
Oooookay it's slow at work so I'm going to go through some of the stuff I have listened to over the years. I fully expect people not to like a lot of the genres and that's ok. Some of them are old and were made before EDM had all the fancy toys for production so they can sound very "simple". I have to start with Kraftwerk. All EDM today....yes ALL, is mostly thanks to Brian Eno and Kraftwerk. They are the true pioneers of the genre. They were my gateway drug to EDM because I used to like a lot of industrial (NIN, Skinny Puppy, KMFDM, Ministry etc) and they also have a lot of roots from Kraftwerk. Some of the other bands I used to listen to that had an influence to EDM but more specifically the rave scene, were bands that came out of England (New Order, Happy Mondays, Stone Roses). Before going to my first rave my early EDM exposures were mostly limited to Chris Sheppard pirate radio mixes. For anyone not Canadian or too young to remember, Chris Sheppard was Canada's most commercially available club DJ. He would put out these CD mixes advertised on MuchMusic (Canada's MTV). While I would consider some of the songs in his mixes classics now - back then they were cheesy as all hell. (Insert Gramma rant here) Kids have it so easy these days. There was no google or search engines. The internet was a shell of what it is now. When I was a teen I literally had to go out and physically find new music. If you didn't live in a huge epicenter of a city, you found out about new music from word of mouth and magazines. Then in 1995 three things happened that changed my life: 1) A friend gives me a CD that he says I have to listen to. I took that CD home and was blown away. It was a sound I had never really heard before and I was hooked. That album was Exit Planet Dust by the Chemical Brothers, and it made me go buy a new stereo system for my sweet ass 1988 Ford Taurus. 2) Laugh all you want. When you are a 16 year old kid that loves computers, this movie was the shit. The soundtrack was also stellar. There were a few other movies in the near future that brought some great new music to my ears such as Trainspotting and Spawn. 3) I went to my first rave. I was on acid walking around downtown with some friends when we heard a thumping. We came across a building with a few people in a line up. We asked around and were told there was a party going on and it cost $5 to get in. High on acid with nothing better to do, we went inside. It was an old empty office building with no furniture inside. There was a simple light set up with some strobes, a fold out table with a Dj spinning vinyl records, and about 200 kids all having the time of their lives. Met some amazing people and started going to raves almost every weekend. More to come......
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2011 13:48:59 GMT -8
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Post by wompwomp on Jun 25, 2011 15:21:47 GMT -8
Maybe it's the wine, but tonight I'm reflecting on the importance of live performance for EDM acts. I listen to EDM at home / in the car a lot more often than I go to EDM shows, so I tend to de-emphasize live shows. If I'm at a club and the DJ is doing a good job I have fun no matter whether (s)he's a big name or not. The EDM acts I've made a point of seeing live, though, split pretty quickly into two categories: 1) Transcendent 2) Meh And it seems to have a very low correlation to their studio work (example: Excision). What are everyone elses thoughts? How much does the live performance of an EDM act influence your opinion of their music? For me, and I think like many others on this board have said before, I really only got into EDM after my first big live show (Paul Van Dyk of all people...). While I have been listening to more and more recorded stuff, it's still mostly about the live show for me. Outside of a handful of those "transcendent" artists that I can listen to anytime (Daft Punk, Chemical Bros, Fatboy Slim, etc.), I find it hard to listen to it outside of the live setting until after I see them live. For example, Bassnectar. Before I saw him live, I couldn't really get into his recorded stuff. After seeing his show, I have totally gained a new appreciation for his albums. The way I get into new EDM is by seeing who is coming to town or who I will get a chance to see, and then giving them an honest listen to see how their recorded stuff will translate live. J-Dawg, you and I have been talking about going to that Nero show in a couple weeks. I had never really listened to Nero that much until I found out they were coming, and now I am huge fan. I am beyond psyched for their show.
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Post by Pea on Jun 25, 2011 15:45:37 GMT -8
Paul Van Dyke surprised the hell out of me at Coachella. I didn't even plan on seeing him but he ended up being one of my favorite EDM sets of the weekend.
Unrelated, Feed Me was pretty fucking nutty last night. I feel like garbage today...
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Post by J-Dawg on Jun 25, 2011 16:15:27 GMT -8
I have to start with Kraftwerk. All EDM today....yes ALL, is mostly thanks to Brian Eno and Kraftwerk. They are the true pioneers of the genre. <snip> 2) Laugh all you want. When you are a 16 year old kid that loves computers, this movie was the shit. The soundtrack was also stellar. There were a few other movies in the near future that brought some great new music to my ears such as Trainspotting and Spawn. This is really spooky. Kraftwerk wasn't my introduction to EDM, but it was among the earlier stuff I listened to as well. Plus I absolutely loved the movie Hackers. And yes, the soundtrack was (and frankly, still is) pretty awesome.
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Post by J-Dawg on Jun 25, 2011 16:17:16 GMT -8
The way I get into new EDM is by seeing who is coming to town or who I will get a chance to see, and then giving them an honest listen to see how their recorded stuff will translate live. J-Dawg, you and I have been talking about going to that Nero show in a couple weeks. I had never really listened to Nero that much until I found out they were coming, and now I am huge fan. I am beyond psyched for their show. I only really started listening to Nero a few months ago, when one of my coworkers wouldn't shut up about them. I really like their stuff, and when I found out they were coming to Calgary I bought tickets the day they went on sale. Super psyched to see it as well.
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Post by Shaxspear III Esq. on Jun 25, 2011 17:50:28 GMT -8
After going to raves for a little bit, the first genre I got hooked on was Goa/Psytrance. Mostly because I only did mushrooms and acid at first. Goa is pretty much designed for hallucinogens. There was a group of people who threw goa parties in Calgary and they were always decorated with the most insane black light art and glowing stuff everywhere. Some of my favorite artists were Astral Projection and Juno Reactor. A really good example of a Goa/Psy group that are really popular now is Infected Mushroom. Their live show is amazing.
And thennnnnnn.... I found ecstacy. Which when I started to love trance. Paul Van Dyk was mentioned earlier. That guy made my ultimate raver anthem.
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Post by emptyfox on Jun 25, 2011 17:55:46 GMT -8
Ohhh psytrance.... Neo-hippies to the max! Haha
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Post by Shaxspear III Esq. on Jun 25, 2011 18:23:52 GMT -8
Fast forward a couple years later. I'm actually of legal age to drink and EDM has become popular enough to have some nights at the clubs. This is where I forged my next two loves that I still love today.
House!!
House is one of the older forms of EDM and is very much alive and kicking today. Started in the early 80's in Chicago popularized by clubs that catered to the gay, African American and Latin communities. Like other genres, house has evolved into several other subgenres such as deep, disco, progressive and the latest craze - electro. I personally prefer the deep and/or funky stuff.
Armand Van Helden is a guy who has been around for years and is still going strong. He's now 1/2 of the popular Duck Sauce along with A-Trak (the brother of Dave-1 from Chromeo)
This song is a house classic. Also heavily sampled by two robots who better be playing Coachella next year.
And something a little more recent
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Post by J-Dawg on Jun 25, 2011 19:06:38 GMT -8
This song is a house classic. Also heavily sampled by two robots who better be playing Coachella next year. For those who aren't aware, Stardust was a one-time collaboration between a couple of producers, one of whom (Thomas Bangalter) also happens to be 1/2 of Daft Punk. And I still love that song to this day.
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Post by Shaxspear III Esq. on Jun 25, 2011 21:15:00 GMT -8
Yep
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Post by Shaxspear III Esq. on Jun 25, 2011 23:19:03 GMT -8
And finally........ Drum n Bass aka Jungle DnB or Jungle was born in the UK in the early 90's rave culture. It stemmed from the hardcore genre and ended up incorperating a lot of raggae and afrobeat influences as well as adding dub basslines and MC's. In the 90's Jungle was to the UK as hiphop/rap was to the US. It had a strong following and almost "gangster" image. Again with all genres it has evolved to develop many sub-genres and has gone on to help create new genres, most notably dubstep. Some of the genres include ragga, jump up, techstep and liquid funk to name a few. I had always liked DnB, but I never really got that into it until I stopped doing chemicals. Then I really got into it. So much that I ended up buying a pair of turntables and started DJ'ing. I played a little bit of everything, but my bread and butter was liquid funk. It wasn't very popular back when I played it. It's the most popular kind of DnB now. Guess I should have kept Dj'ing, I could have been big haha. These are some of my favorite tunes over the years. I'll just link the songs so I don't clog up the thread. 1993 LTJ Bukem - Atlantis www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g3RUnx9svM1996 T.Power vs MK Ultra - Mutant Jazz www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep6QiLXHLy01998 EZ Rollers - Tough at the Top www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y53pXbyQPo2000 London Elektricity - Round the Corner (Origin Unknown VIP mix) www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgKn0bvOL2g2000 TeeBee - Let Go www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tl78WKLefY2001 Kosheen - Suicide (Substance & Decoder mix) www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EjyLkXrApY2001 60 Minute Man - No Turning Back No link because I got WSS ed! 2002 Marky & XRS - LK www.youtube.com/watch?v=XngRMKayxCw2008 Danny Byrd - Weird Science www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfIDvtFsnv02008 Adele - Hometown Glory (High Contrast remix) www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozV_vWXZgZY2009 Sub Focus - Rock It www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdJgwf-_HGY2011 Danny Byrd feat Netsky - Tonight www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL0TSQkItzg
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Post by emptyfox on Jun 26, 2011 0:25:53 GMT -8
One of my best friends has been producing and DJ'ing D'n'B since we were like 16. He's travelled the world a couple times, signed some tunes to a few labels, most notably Breakbeat Science.
I credit him with introducing me to EDM in the first place, and it has always been D'n'B for me. It was only very recently that I began to really listen to other genres of electronic music.
It was pretty neat being able to see him be as successful as one really could be as a western Canadian Drum'n'Bass producer. We don't have the appreciation for it out here like they do/did in the UK and Europe, and even Australia.
I'm not gonna lie, it was/is also cool to be able to meet and party with all sorts of producers from all over the world over the years we've been hanging out and he's been playing parties.
Also it's Psidream, not Psi Dream... lol oh youtubes...
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Post by Shaxspear III Esq. on Jun 26, 2011 1:45:31 GMT -8
Kickass. Sadly I've never heard of him, but that's a good tune. The only successful dnb producer out of Vancouver that I know off the top of my head would be Ill-esha, and she's moved onto dubstep. DnB used to be HUGE in Toronto back in the late 90's. They still get a good turn out for shows there, but the UK is obviously the mecca for the genre.
While we're promoting friends here's a track by my good friend Isis. She's a kick ass house DJ and producer and has now started producing dubstep. Her boyfriend Mark Instinct is also making a good name for himself in the dubstep world.
And this is another friend....Isis' ex actually hehe.
And a hilarious video he did with another friend
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Post by emptyfox on Jun 26, 2011 9:07:02 GMT -8
Hahaha I totally know Ill-esha. Rad chick!
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Post by J-Dawg on Jun 26, 2011 21:13:19 GMT -8
The Crystal Method isn't the most prolific duo in the world of electronic music, but they were an early love of mine, and I find myself going back to their debut album, Vegas, quite often to this day. When I first heard their music, I had never heard anything that sounded like it before.
Fast forward several years... Having loved Vegas for a couple of years, I picked up Tweekend within a month of its release, unlistened, and was surprised to discover a very different sound than on Vegas, and which I enjoyed but in a completely different way.
I also did enjoy their first "mix" album, Community Service, although it's not nearly as enjoyable as their first two studio albums.
For whatever reason, Legion of Boom didn't really click with me, and I find Divided by night to be hit and miss although I do enjoy some of it.
A number of their songs deal with drug use either directly or indirectly. I must admit I find it interesting how they progressed from "Trip like I do" on Vegas to "Come back clean" on Divided by Night.
Bottom line, if you can own one and only one Crystal Method album, it's Vegas. Hands down. And if you've never heard Vegas, do yourself a favour and listen to it sometime soon.
Favorite Songs (Albums): Busy Child (Vegas) Keep Hope Alive (Vegas) Name of the Game (Tweekend) Ten Miles Back (Tweekend) Come Back Clean (Divided by Night) - Also, if you're a Kaskade fan, his remix of this track is great.
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