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Post by Pea on Jun 2, 2011 20:29:17 GMT -8
Definitely the wrong thread, but Shax...god damnit. You're the absolute most amazing dude ever. From the DFA shirt to the jello shots I can't stress how appreciative I was of those things. Thanks again man!
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Post by emptyfox on Jun 2, 2011 21:23:14 GMT -8
Totally blushing. Shiny red skinsuit likes me, he really likes me!
I wish I'd had the chance to hang out with both Shax and Hectic more. I was totally on the lookout for you guys but man oh man, having a camp full of 20-30 people you know already sure keeps you occupied!
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Post by lostatlimbo on Jun 3, 2011 9:30:34 GMT -8
I'd be up for some serious boobytrapping of tents and such for next year. BAIT TENTS Motherfuckers. Yeah, that won't backfire when you stumble back wasted at 3 AM and forget all about the trap.
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Post by StormyPinkness on Jun 3, 2011 9:35:41 GMT -8
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Post by DrEwe on Jun 3, 2011 17:05:22 GMT -8
I think I must have gone through about 10 minutes before the 'riot' kicked off as well. People were getting unruly and started to cramp in too tight. I told a few people around me to calm down and stop pushing. Hopefully nobody was seriously hurt, although I heard some stories of people being trampled. I know the wait was ridiculous, but that's how someone is seriously hurt or killed. I was in that brutal crush for about an hour. We were funnelled in and hemmed by fences until we couldnt move. Of course people were still arriving so it wasnt long before the fence started to give way - if it had fallen someone would have died. When I got to the front I told security that there were people getting hurt "back there". She was a complete Nazi - had a wild look in her eyes and kept saying "we have to stop the drugs" - what a cunt. Anyway I found a big dark shirted guy who seemed reasonable and told him they would likely need some EMT's if they didnt let folks thru. I also told him I was a Dr and had 2 14yr old sons in the crush. It seemed to be incompetence plus stupidity and capriciousness that really caused the problem. Plus that one idiot woman who was just wigging out and would rather have a dead fan than let any weed into the venue. Just when the fence was almost about to blow, they all gave in and it was a stampede into the venue. The joke is, security was totally weak anyway - I never got more than a pat on the small of my back and a quick glance in my bag - guess I look too old!!
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Post by z3phyr13 on Jun 3, 2011 20:01:35 GMT -8
She was a complete Nazi - had a wild look in her eyes and kept saying "we have to stop the drugs" - what a cunt. MUST. STOP. THE. DRUGS.
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Post by Geoff on Jun 3, 2011 20:28:39 GMT -8
WE MUST THINK OF THE CHILDREN WHO SHOULD NOT BE ATTENDING THIS FESTIVAL!
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Post by thelilluh on Jun 3, 2011 23:46:15 GMT -8
I was seated 5 feet to the right of this episode. The security guard chased the young woman from the asphalt pathway up the grassy seating area and forced her to the ground. I overheard something about "just cause" and I overheard the security guard say something like "she flipped me off, that is cause!". Immediately 3 other security guards surrounded her. She appeared to be about 5'5" and very slight of build. I saw no assault from the girl, only the instinctive moves of trying to break free.
I was incensed as were the other concert goers sitting nearby. We are not kids, we are "older". Yes we'd had a drink but we were not drunk. Note the "older fellows" in the video who were also sitting nearby and were obviously concerned. As she was forced to the ground, she dropped her water bottle. None of the "Beverage Enforcement" personnel seemed to notice. After she was taken away, a male nearby picked up the bottle, sniffed it and gave it to the last security guard. He said "It's water".
After she was handcuffed and taken away, someone started calling to the last remaining "Beverage officer": "She has no shoes, bring her her shoes". He took the shoes and brought them to her. I think it was the same guard that took her water bottle. This fourth guard was not captured in the video.
My heart was racing and I was very upset. It ruined Sharon Jones and it has ruined concerts for me. I will not return and I will boycott LiveNation. The Lilluh.
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Post by Geoff on Jun 4, 2011 0:00:47 GMT -8
Why do I feel like the OP is just making more accounts to reply with in this thread to make it seem like a bigger deal than it is?
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Post by HecticDialectic on Jun 4, 2011 8:56:56 GMT -8
^^
I have actually never seen such a chill year for Beverage Enforcement- they were way better this year than the previous 2 in all of my experiences- a lot more dumping drinks than kicking out, and even more "X"s on hands than kicking out drunks (although how this addresses the problem I dont' know- anyone with an X on their hands is so drunk they obviously didnt' do it off 9 dollar festival beers)
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Post by esrever on Jun 4, 2011 10:05:56 GMT -8
It's true the locals in George, WA are not huge fans of the festival, but some of these stories are just insane. I have been going to The Gorge since I was 16 and the only time I have seen excessive force used inside the venue was when people were behaving absurdly or were not listening to the officials for one reason or the other. A security guard told me on Sunday that they found knifes on people and thats why they were searching everyone from head to toe on Sunday. I saw one girl get searched in front of me and they confiscated a half OZ of weed and then just let her go in....no harm no foul.
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Post by interstateeight on Jun 4, 2011 10:22:20 GMT -8
Why do I feel like the OP is just making more accounts to reply with in this thread to make it seem like a bigger deal than it is? Because you've spent more than two minutes on the internet in your life?
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Post by Horned Gramma on Jun 4, 2011 10:28:57 GMT -8
I think I must have gone through about 10 minutes before the 'riot' kicked off as well. People were getting unruly and started to cramp in too tight. I told a few people around me to calm down and stop pushing. Hopefully nobody was seriously hurt, although I heard some stories of people being trampled. I know the wait was ridiculous, but that's how someone is seriously hurt or killed. I was in that brutal crush for about an hour. We were funnelled in and hemmed by fences until we couldnt move. Of course people were still arriving so it wasnt long before the fence started to give way - if it had fallen someone would have died. When I got to the front I told security that there were people getting hurt "back there". She was a complete Nazi - had a wild look in her eyes and kept saying "we have to stop the drugs" - what a cunt. Anyway I found a big dark shirted guy who seemed reasonable and told him they would likely need some EMT's if they didnt let folks thru. I also told him I was a Dr and had 2 14yr old sons in the crush. It seemed to be incompetence plus stupidity and capriciousness that really caused the problem. Plus that one idiot woman who was just wigging out and would rather have a dead fan than let any weed into the venue. Just when the fence was almost about to blow, they all gave in and it was a stampede into the venue. The joke is, security was totally weak anyway - I never got more than a pat on the small of my back and a quick glance in my bag - guess I look too old!! ...aaaaaaand that's why you don't bring children to Sasquatch. Hope you enjoyed the show, shithead.
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Post by esrever on Jun 4, 2011 10:31:31 GMT -8
...aaaaaaand that's why you don't bring children to Sasquatch. Exactly.
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Post by z3phyr13 on Jun 4, 2011 12:04:15 GMT -8
KIDS HATE SASQUATCH DAMMIT
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Post by Jefferin Jeffotash on Jun 4, 2011 12:11:26 GMT -8
Been to sasquatch for 6 of the 10 years, and have also been going to the gorge since i was 16 as well i agree with esrever...unless you are asking for it, security is cool if you make half an effort to be reasonible...
shit i had a fire going in my campsite(sierra stove), got rolled up on by 6 security folks who had smelt the wood burning, they asked what i was doing, i told them that i was just cooking dinner and that the fire would only die down and they made sure i wasn't being reckless and they all moved on....
Pretty decent of them if you ask me...
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Post by DrEwe on Jun 4, 2011 19:26:11 GMT -8
I was in that brutal crush for about an hour. We were funnelled in and hemmed by fences until we couldnt move. Of course people were still arriving so it wasnt long before the fence started to give way - if it had fallen someone would have died. When I got to the front I told security that there were people getting hurt "back there". She was a complete Nazi - had a wild look in her eyes and kept saying "we have to stop the drugs" - what a cunt. Anyway I found a big dark shirted guy who seemed reasonable and told him they would likely need some EMT's if they didnt let folks thru. I also told him I was a Dr and had 2 14yr old sons in the crush. It seemed to be incompetence plus stupidity and capriciousness that really caused the problem. Plus that one idiot woman who was just wigging out and would rather have a dead fan than let any weed into the venue. Just when the fence was almost about to blow, they all gave in and it was a stampede into the venue. The joke is, security was totally weak anyway - I never got more than a pat on the small of my back and a quick glance in my bag - guess I look too old!! ...aaaaaaand that's why you don't bring children to Sasquatch. Hope you enjoyed the show, shithead. Really? are you serious? 14 year olds shouldn't go to Sasquatch? That seems like the PERFECT age to start a festival career IMHO. And yes, the show was awesome.
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Post by chaco on Jun 4, 2011 19:29:54 GMT -8
Is it weird that I looked at the title for this thread and my immediate thought was that someone was trying to start a Mon the Sharon Jones rally?
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Post by weenie on Jun 4, 2011 22:17:45 GMT -8
This isn't related to the girl that got arrested at all (which sound pretty shitty, no matter how it went down).
Buuuuuuut, how fucking cool was this concert?! I had never heard them before and they kicked my ass! I can't believe that awesome lady! I loved when she brought that doofus on stage and danced circles around him (though he did pretty good, right?). Also when she told that huge story about how her heritage is Native American & African American and both those cultures just love to dance!
So much fun!
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Post by tripcalifornia on Jun 9, 2011 13:47:14 GMT -8
Dancing is not a crime. What we're seeing here is the aftermath of whatever interaction led security to hold her that way in the first place. Showing us this footage without the rest is giving us an incomplete story. And while I appreciate that you're looking for documentation, you've also labeled that video on YouTube with some inflammatory language, so just be up front with us here. I hope you get some footage of what happened before your friend was held there. This video was not taken by any of our friends. It was taken by a bystander who was smart enough to turn his camera onto what was taking place. As soon as we all returned home from the festival I looked on Youtube to see if anyone had posted a video showing what happened, just like I would do if I had caught video of anything similar. I agree that the words the poster chose to title the video were extreme and not language I would have personally used, but this youtube user is not associated with us so we can't be held responsible for the video's title. If you are included in the VAST MAJORITY of people who did not personally have or witness injustice or a negative experience with any security at Sasquatch, then that is WONDERFUL and the way it should be. Just be aware that YOUR experience is YOUR experience, and sadly that it was not that of EVERY SINGLE OTHER ATTENDEE. I'm sure there were many who were justly kicked out or arrested for violence, drugs, etc. This is a part of what security is there for and I'm assuming most of them performed their duties responsibly while dealing with the public respectfully and with reasonable sense of mind. Unfortunately there ARE the handful of situations like this which get triggered by ego challenges and exceed appropriate response. I can only assume that had this been you, any of you, that you wouldn't feel a bigger deal is being made of this than necessary. We're not saying "DOWN WITH SECURITY!", we're saying THIS specific situation crossed the line into abuse and that knowing this level of aggression is considered unacceptable for non-violent situations is vital to us patrons having trust and faith in those who are designated with the responsibility of keeping 'the peace' and the festival a safe environment. As for myself, I have been going to music festivals for over ten years all over the country and this is the first time I have personally encountered anything like this happening. It's a tremendously GOOD thing that these occurrences are few and far between, but the rare times they DO happen unjustly they need to be exposed and the people who are given the responsibility of authority need to be held accountable when they misuse that position. Thankfully, this doesn't happen all or even most of the time. Hopefully you will not have to one day experience for yourself what it is like to have an overly aggressive person in authority project their heightened adrenalin state onto you. Security has a tough job, no doubt. Mistakes happen. Exposure and accountability can greatly decrease the odds of mistakes like this happening again to someone else. Be grateful for those who are not easily intimidated into beaten down submission when they feel they are being/have been violated and abused.
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