ithaca
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Post by ithaca on Feb 23, 2011 9:35:53 GMT -8
yeah it is understandably not for everyone. the subtle hooks do become more apparent when you listen to the music a lot, and on good speakers. but I see it more as really great background music, or something i can throw on when i want to lay down and think or lay down and think of nothing, more than something i want to sit down and devote all my attention to. I havent seen him live yet, so im not exactly sure what to expect, but i know i wont be missing his set for anyone besides flaming lips or deerhunter.
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ithaca
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Post by ithaca on Feb 23, 2011 9:40:20 GMT -8
zodiac shit is one of my favorite beats
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Post by Horned Gramma on Feb 23, 2011 9:40:27 GMT -8
Alright, challenge accepted. I'm going to spend the day with Cosmogramma and see if I can make it work.
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Post by parenthesees on Feb 23, 2011 9:42:05 GMT -8
^^ It's a headphones kinda album for sure
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Post by Pea on Feb 23, 2011 9:43:23 GMT -8
If Miniature Tigers can grow on HG than anything...ANYTHING is possible.
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Post by emptyfox on Feb 23, 2011 9:44:58 GMT -8
Alright, challenge accepted. I'm going to spend the day with Cosmogramma and see if I can make it work. I did this yesterday (on headphones), on my way to work and home. Decent travel music. I hate track one, but once I got past that I found some stuff I liked. There's some d'n'b influence buried in there which was my first love in the electronic genre. I can see how this isn't for everyone though.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Feb 23, 2011 9:45:50 GMT -8
Miniature Tigers weren't nearly as much of a stretch as FlyLo is going to be.
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Post by Pea on Feb 23, 2011 9:48:33 GMT -8
Well kudos to you for trying. I don't need another potential conflict added to my list. I'm quite comfortable with my ignorance lol.
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Post by Switch on Feb 23, 2011 10:16:20 GMT -8
I think of these songs as situational songs. I definitely couldn't just sit around listening to Flying Lotus all day, and I definitely couldn't see myself rolling down the street in my Toyota Yaris pooping some FlyLo beats. I definitely do think they have their place though given the right party or situation. I like Camera Day. Thanks for the recommendations ithaca.
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Post by stamper on Feb 23, 2011 10:19:10 GMT -8
I see it more as really great background music, or something i can throw on when i want to lay down and think or lay down and think of nothing i agree. background music is the best way to describe it. and i'm sure its excellent for laying down and falling asleep to...but if i may be honest, i'm not entirely sure lulling people to sleep is something i'd want on my resume. 'my music puts people in COMAS' but that's me. i sincerely hope you enjoy his set.
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Post by Pea on Feb 23, 2011 10:23:54 GMT -8
The idea of "background music" never made sense to me. I like being enveloped by the music I listen to, not just...in the same room as it.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Feb 23, 2011 10:28:56 GMT -8
I wanna go back a little ways and say that I do NOT regard Flying Lotus' influence on Thom Yorke to be a positive one. The progressively mellow nature of the second phase of Radiohead's career suits me just fine - the downtempo numbers have always been my favorites (Exit Music, Bullet Proof, Talk Show Host, How to Disappear, Nude, the list goes on) but the brilliance of OKC, Kid A and about half of The Bends was how they used traditional rock instrumentation in a way that sounded almost mechanical.
Just like Brian Eno's studio work in the 80's, it isn't that the material is any better or worse, but the ability to produce those otherworldy sounds became much easier and so required less work - and less imagination.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Feb 23, 2011 10:31:05 GMT -8
The idea of "background music" never made sense to me. I like being enveloped by the music I listen to, not just...in the same room as it. See, I don't feel this way -- and I don't feel the same way as you do about 'hooks' either. I'm a huge fan of ambient music (again, the Eno) but Flying Lotus' material seems to be... well, lazy. Like he's relying on the substances people use to meet him much more than halfway.
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Post by Pea on Feb 23, 2011 10:35:07 GMT -8
Ah well I suppose you found a flaw in my reasoning then because I'm a huge Eno and all around ambient fan. Although, I consider listening to ambient music to be a completely different auditory experience altogether.
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Post by Switch on Feb 23, 2011 10:35:21 GMT -8
Like he's relying on the substances people use to meet him much more than halfway. I would agree with that. Like I was saying, at the right party I might enjoy his stuff but other than that.....meh.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Feb 23, 2011 10:43:14 GMT -8
Ah well I suppose you found a flaw in my reasoning then because I'm a huge Eno and all around ambient fan. Although, I consider listening to ambient music to be a completely different auditory experience altogether. Eno's whole philosophy regarding ambient music was that it should enhance the atmosphere of a room without dominating it, or - ideally - really even being noticeable. Which is how I hear people describing their appreciation for Flying Lotus -- which is why I'm willing to come back to it (again; I've tried seven times now, which is just a little more than half of the 12 required listens I give any record before writing it off completely). Granted, I wouldn't ride the bus across town listening to 'Discreet Music', but that record is completely formless - I usually bust it out when I have a migraine and that's about it. Eno's stuff with Robert Fripp seems to be an ancestor of Cosmogramma ; No Pussyfooting and Evening Star are definitely more tangible. If something like that is buried under the coma beats on the FlyLo disc, I wanna know about it.
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Post by Pea on Feb 23, 2011 10:45:36 GMT -8
Coma beats! Hahaha sorry, I should have a better response your last post but that just tickled me too much.
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ackbar
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Post by ackbar on Feb 23, 2011 10:51:43 GMT -8
after reading 2 pages of discussion.. let me just clarify that flylo live sets lean more to the danceable than his albums. abelton edits, live drum programming, etc. he doesn't exactly just stand there & play stoner hip hop beats for an hour
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Post by Horned Gramma on Feb 23, 2011 10:59:10 GMT -8
You can do some amazing stuff with Ableton Live. The Residents current tour almost completely relies on it - instrumentation consists of one Resident running Ableton on a Mac and a man named Nolan Cook on guitar, and it is incredible.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Feb 23, 2011 12:25:50 GMT -8
Ok definitely catching a few more subtleties this time through Cosmogramma. I'm still wildly bored, though I can see potential for some interesting expansion in a live setting.
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