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Post by davers on Jan 11, 2018 23:31:03 GMT -8
If The War on Drugs are on the poster, where do they go? 3rd line? Sub headliner? Surprise Headliner? They would be the greatest sunset show I can think of from bands playing festivals this year, but feel they would be billed way higher than a sunset slot. Honestly could see them being the 3rd headliner if the other 2 are big names. Sunset slot pretty much is subheadliner on the mainstage, so that would work perfectly. Behold M83 subheadlining in 2016. Note the daylight at the beginning and night time at the end. Also just watch the whole thing cause it's one of my favourite Sasquatch sets in the last several years. Edit: upon watching it gets dark real fast into that set. It did start at 9 though and sometimes the subs start at 830.
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Post by davers on Jan 11, 2018 23:26:59 GMT -8
The National is a weird one. They fit perfectly, however there is no way they can bring them back anywhere but a headliner 3 years after headlining, and I doubt they can get away with that after the 50 of us that were in attendance last time they headlined. This same paragraph also describes why QOTSA won't be coming back to headline this year (or ever, probably). Outkast was the only headliner that got a decent crowd that year. I was gunna say I felt like the National had the same sized crowd as Queens, Florence, Disclosure... etc. But if Queens was also considered not great and the other 2 I mentioned were in a year of poor attendance... yeah probably not that well attended. The end of both The National and Queens overlapped with 2 solidly popular acts but I think both Queens and The National are great live, so I wouldn't expect everyone to bail.
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Post by davers on Jan 11, 2018 10:37:31 GMT -8
Sasquatch is probably mighty jealous I guarantee you they're not. I meant jealous of the ticket sales, not the lineup.
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Post by davers on Jan 11, 2018 0:30:59 GMT -8
I expected more out of you Nick bitch if i'm gonna make an olive garden troll account you bet your ass every post would end like w0hahohuhuhoh yA gbotta try thees BRADSTACKS
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Post by davers on Jan 10, 2018 18:12:55 GMT -8
Manchester Orchestra and the Killers are the only 2 bands playing both Bottlerock and Boston Calling. I was going to ask if you could put an asterisk beside the bands playing Bottlerock and Boston Calling but I guess there aren't many. Probably safe to knock both of those off the list since I don't think either could do all three fests in three days.
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Post by davers on Jan 10, 2018 16:02:51 GMT -8
So motherfucking Bottlerock sold out in an hour this morning. I have a few takeaways from this.
A generic lineup catering to yuppies mainly from the Bay Area can still sell well. People seem very willing to either travel each day to a festival or rent an expensive place in Napa because camping options seem minimal here. Sasquatch is probably mighty jealous and while this sellout wont affect this years lineup (basically already done), it could affect future ones if it doesn't sell well again.
Capacity of the fest seems to be around 40K, and passes were $350 each. They also held back some tickets for single day passes, which will be released on the 16th. If they are selling single day passes then they will be releasing single day lineups too, which will help give us a better idea of potential crossovers (ie any band playing Saturday is probably out for Sasquatch unless they travel light such as rappers and DJs).
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Post by davers on Jan 10, 2018 11:00:08 GMT -8
Do chubbystackz, Pea, davers, or whoever else has connections have any idea why the lineup is being held until February? If they're sharing crossover numbers, obviously the lineup is done (and probably has been done since at least November). Is it a Live Nation mandate that they don't want the lineup to be lost in the sea of other lineups being released right now? Is there an artist near the top of the lineup who isn't announcing a tour until February, so they're waiting for the artist? What's the deal? I don't know why you think I know things because I don't but it's a slow work day so I'm happy to speculate. Snacks likes helping out smaller bands. Smaller bands usually don't book their tours that far in advance. He wants to release a complete lineup to help these smaller bands get some exposure, so the lineup gets held until they can fill out the undercard with the more local acts. It's also the time they've always released the lineup, and up until a couple years ago it has worked fine. Finally, with all the other major festivals in the area (Pemberton, Squamish mostly) kicking the bucket they aren't in a major rush. I'm betting in previous year people in Vancouver waited for Pemberton to release before committing to Sasquatch, and since Pemberton always fucked up and released in late March or April, it was almost too late to work in Sasquatch. With Pemberton gone they can release a complete lineup and with the exception of a few people already booking trips to Roo/Boston Calling/Shaky Knees (and lets face it, that makes up a pretty small percentage of potential attendees) they can hopefully impress enough people to get some ticket sales.
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Post by davers on Jan 10, 2018 10:52:09 GMT -8
So Eminem, Muse and Jack White all seem possible as the big headliner. There's no way Sasquatch can afford all 3 (or even 2) of them unless we think they are breaking the bank trying to save the festival, and lets face it, we have that theory every year and it never really happens.
Reasons said acts are likely:
Eminem: Playing all the festivals. Boston Calling then he's free, then Roo. Could fit if he plays Friday/Sunday split. Never played Sasquatch might be only chance. Muse: Never played Sasquatch before. Been around long enough to almost be considered a legacy act, even if they haven't made decent music in ages. Fits the overall genre of Sasquatch pretty well. Playing Bottlerock, could easily do a Friday/Sunday split between there and Sasquatch. Jack White: Playing Boston calling, same Friday/Sunday split possible.
Reasons said acts are not likely
Eminem: Would probably have played Bottlerock if he was playing 2 festivals in a weekend. Snacks likes more unique lineups. Muse: Haven't been terribly relevant recently and doesn't really fit the younger aim that last years lineup had. Jack White: Also doesn't fit the younger aim of last years lineup. Has played the festival before, but 6 years ago.
My official rankings of our possible 'big headliner' in terms of likelyhood:
1. Muse 2. Eminem 3. Jack White
I'm sure Muse will have some cool lightshow thing that will look awesome from the hill, and then we can sneak away to see Anderson .Paak blow everyones faces off for the late night set. It's going to be ok.
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Post by davers on Jan 9, 2018 14:51:10 GMT -8
This is some pretty solid data. Considering Bruno Mars is not really a good fit and the Killers are also playing Boston Calling that weekend which makes them unlikely for Sasquatch since going between 3 different festivals that are quite far apart in 3 days sounds very difficult I would say Muse is fairly possible.
Killers would have to be the first or last day of both Boston Calling and Bottlerock, Bruno Mars would be the middle day of Bottlerock since I see no conflicts, and Muse could play first/last day of Sasquatch and Bottlerock.
Totally plausible guys.
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Post by davers on Jan 9, 2018 10:00:38 GMT -8
When have they ever done this though? Ever since lineups started dropping early Sasquatch has been stubbornly sticking to releasing their dead ass last. Never. But I'd like to think that after a couple years of poor sales that they would like to kind of try to compete with other fests. I feel like last year was an earlier release for them and it was still late January. Still says on sale Feb 10 so I'm not expecting any early release sadly. Makes sense, I think they'd want to wait and not get washed out with 2 festivals releasing every day.
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Post by davers on Jan 8, 2018 16:10:38 GMT -8
The Head and the Heart just played last year, so I think we're safe there. You will never be safe from The Head & The Heart. They just played last year though so they would seem less likely.
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Post by davers on Jan 8, 2018 13:09:23 GMT -8
Bottlerock: 5 (good ones) Shaky Knees: 4 I will take the third line of Bottlerock (Earth Wind and Fire, Head and the Heart (just because I know it's unavoidable), Billy Idol and Thievery Corporation) and Oh Wonder. Will also accept St. Paul, Shakey Graves, Trombone Shorty, Nahko or Tank. God willing we can not have Head and the Heart and get one of those on top of my other 4. For Shakey Knees I will take pretty much any of the following But best case is Jack White, David Byrne, Andrew WK and maybe Matt and Kim? Man it is tough to just pick 4 off that.
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Post by davers on Jan 8, 2018 12:34:33 GMT -8
Oh it's definitely a fake account.
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Post by davers on Jan 8, 2018 12:16:27 GMT -8
Don't ruin a good joke by explaining it. Just take your W and walk away. YOU RUINED THE JOKE BY SAYING "BOOM, ROASTED!" THATS THE POINT If it wasn't for the fact that you were posting during a time I am pretty sure Pea was busy I would be so sure that this was another Pea account.
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Post by davers on Jan 8, 2018 12:09:18 GMT -8
We badly need a day by day lineup for Bottlerock and Boston Calling to make some more educated guesses.
Side note I wonder how much tougher it is to book Sasquatch now that Bottlerock and Boston Calling are established. They should probably move Sasquatch a week back so it matches up with the BC long weekend instead...
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Post by davers on Jan 8, 2018 11:33:14 GMT -8
Damn the Shakey Knees lineup and National lineups are great and that Bottlerock lineup is horrible save for a few good ones in the middle. Overall this gives me hope though, if we got a lineup somewhat like Shakey Knees except with some hip hop and EDM sprinkled in I would be thrilled.
Semi worried we may get the Killers though, and that is only OK if for some random reason they decide to just play Hot Fuss and then some hits to keep people occupied while I sneak away to the hopefully awesome late night set.
I wish I wrote that as a joke but I started writing it and then work got in the way and then I just sent it without seeing that it was previously discussed twice.
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Post by davers on Jan 7, 2018 19:04:23 GMT -8
I heard GoldenVoice had to fork over 700k per weekend for them. Damn, that would be a pretty penny. And even if they draw a crowd of 7000 (which would be a high estimate in my mind unless they get a favourable set time) then that's $100 per person at the set, which is basically their ticket price for the whole day. It's a numbers game and unless I'm vastly underestimating the crowd they are going to draw the numbers don't work out. On a side note holy shit if they played a stadium somewhere they would have to sell like 10K tickets at $100 a pop to make that kind of appearance fee worth it. I can't see that happening anywhere in North America.
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Post by davers on Jan 7, 2018 17:51:21 GMT -8
I would be shocked if Sasquatch got Jamiroquai. They are too niche and (probably) expensive for something like Sasquatch. If the crowds at similar past Coachella bookings are any indication (Pet Shop Boys, Neutral Milk Hotel, Stone Roses, Motorhead, Ride, Swans...) Coachella isn't going to bother with them much longer either. They cost too much, draw minimal crowds and don't really affect the overall attendance. Sure it gives them some cred in music blogs but I don't think they care much about that anymore.
Sasquatch aims at roughly the same demo as Coachella and at this point I don't think they can afford to shell out second-line Coachella money for an act that probably won't be a deciding factor for many people to attend the festival.
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Post by davers on Jan 6, 2018 19:09:37 GMT -8
Sasquatch has potential to hook about 100,000+ Canadians looking for a new festival now that Pemberton is dead, hopefully the lineup will reflect that. a lot of the crowd at pemby were "bros" though and they just migrated to Fvded and/or Shambhala I talked to people who have gone to both over the years and they said the vibe this year was different compared to past so. really depends on who sasquatch books The vibe this year where? The bros aren't going to Shambs in large numbers, or if they are they are blending in very well. FVDED for sure but it's just a 2 day fest in the city, so I'm not sure it scratches quite the same itch as a camping music festival.
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Post by davers on Jan 6, 2018 18:43:43 GMT -8
Sasquatch has potential to hook about 100,000+ Canadians looking for a new festival now that Pemberton is dead, hopefully the lineup will reflect that. Pemberton only had ~35K attendees at it's peak but you are right that a lot of them may look elsewhere. EDM is somewhat covered in the Vancouver area with FVDED in the park, Bass Coast and Shambhala, but those wouldn't really compete with Sasquatch for the same kind of crowd. Rock the Shores on Vancouver Island is back this year but it's late enough in the summer that island people would possibly do both. I really wonder how many people feel the need to do a festival every year or if there isn't a lineup that suits them then they just don't go to any.
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