Personally, I wouldn't pay it. I'd hold out, even until Thursday or Friday, and try to get a ticket at face (or lower).
It might be hard to wait 'cause you really want to have it locked down, but if your schedule is flexible and you're not already 100% committed then that's what I'd do. You might end up disappointed but I just couldn't stomach knowing how much over I'd paid. By Thurs/Fri I would expect people to be a little more desperate to get rid of what they have left and prices to be much better -- you'd just have to ensure you're beating out any other people trying to get last minute tickets too.
Hopefully both! I've already made the gummies, but I won't be attempting the jello shots until after work tonight... and there's a good chance I'll just be bringing gummies and booze-infused jello-like liquid if I can't keep them adequately cold in the cooler on the way down.
Last Edit: May 20, 2013 21:44:47 GMT -5 by kymess_jr
If they can't provide proof of purchase from Livenation, the most they can ask is $330.
Which is to say they can't sell for more than an agreed upon amount, period. So why complicate it further with talk of proof of purchase?
Because I don't think it's fair for us to penalize those that bought their tickets from a legitimate source just to make it easier. Perhaps forcing those that bought from stubhub or other scalpers to have to take a loss will get them to rethink buying from those sources in the first place, but those who bought from Livenation and paid face value should be able to recoup their costs.
At the end of all this though, I'm not a mod, I have no real power here, and we're all just gonna do what HG decides anyway. So where's Stormy with deal with it .gif again?
Last Edit: May 19, 2013 21:55:57 GMT -5 by kymess_jr
I feel like the logistics of requiring proof of purchase over complicates things and creates a barrier that would stop otherwise fair people from offering. What if I bought the ticket from someone else for cash and don't have a receipt? What if I have a ShitHub receipt showing I paid $500 for it, can I ask $500? What if I won two tickets and need to sell one? Though I disagree with his amount, HG's method is the best. We set an amount that we agree is "face value" and that's what it is. If someone is willing to sell for less, great. If someone wants to sell for more, they can fuck off. Eliminate the gray area without creating any more complications.
I don't think proof of purchase from Livenation is over complicating it at all. Stubhub doesn't equal Livenation, so you can't sell it for what you paid then. Cash to some stranger doesn't equal Livenation, so you can't sell it for what you paid. Winning tickets for free... well, to be honest I can see the gray area you were talking about here earlier and am in some agreement honestly.
If you want an agreed upon amount (ie $330) for those that did not purchase from Livenation, even if it means an agreed upon loss, then I'd be fine with that. But in that case, the seller is aware before posting they have a ticket for sale that, if they can't provide proof of purchase from Livenation, the most they can ask is $330.
How about instead of trying to define the gray area between what is and what isn't scalping, we keep this black and white. Face value or fuck off (like it's always been).
Except you keep trying to define what face value is based on when you bought your tickets. Face value equals what the person paid when purchasing from livenation, not the lowest tier price. Asking for proof of purchase would be a fine way to ensure a presale ticket isn't being sold at regular sale prices.