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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Jan 5, 2011 20:37:08 GMT -8
I kid, Ports is just fine. I once went through a weird time and watched "Where the Heart Is" three time in a row in one day. I also dated a girl because she looked exactly like her, as in her hair was brown in a Natalie Portman way. Both are embarrassingly true.
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Post by Drew on Jan 5, 2011 20:38:13 GMT -8
I dated a girl with a shaved head for the same reason.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Jan 5, 2011 20:41:29 GMT -8
Dialogue is actually pretty much right out of the book in True Grit. Anybody read Charles Portis? Masters of Atlantis is a good good book.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Jan 5, 2011 20:42:26 GMT -8
I dated a girl with a shaved head for the same reason. Oh year 2000.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Jan 5, 2011 20:49:50 GMT -8
I concede that the Black Swan is a "bad good movie", far from an actual "bad not any good at all movie". But have you seen "Inland Empire", that's how you LOSE it guys. That's how REAL performers get into character (all the time most probably). That's why everyone hates Hollywood, cuz they will stab you with a screw driver just to fully delve into the "meat and potatoes" of what makes a Focker tick. The Fockers is the REAL reason why we love hate Hollywood. Some one character delve a screwdriver into their collective brains please. Thanks to the young nutty starlet who does that.
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Post by stamper on Jan 6, 2011 6:42:40 GMT -8
---BLACK SWAN and THE KIDS ARE ALRIGHT SPOILER ALERT!---
here's an odd statement for ya... i don't know which lesbian sex scene i enjoyed more: Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis or Annette Benning and Julianne Moore. The first one is creepy/erotic. The second one is just awkward/hysterical.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Jan 6, 2011 7:07:18 GMT -8
---BLACK SWAN and THE KIDS ARE ALRIGHT SPOILER ALERT!--- here's an odd statement for ya... i don't know which lesbian sex scene i enjoyed more: Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis or Annette Benning and Julianne Moore. The first one is creepy/erotic. The second one is just awkward/hysterical. Oh me of the infinite ughs! Am I the only one living in 2011? Stamper I like you and everyone else here, but can we all get behind the idea that LESBIANS ARE NOT HAVING SEX WITH EACH OTHER TO FULLFILL LAME MALE FANTASIES! AND THAT LESBIANS ARE NOT IN ANY WAY EXCITED TO BE PART OF SOME CELLULOID ZOO FOR MALE ENTERTAINMENT! If this is the message we feel we are receiving from a film (Here's looking at you Black Swan!), should we not be like "go to bed already Mr. Aronofsky and make a movie after you've gotten all your misogynistic junior high daydream cobwebs out of your brain". Maybe? Maybe so. To me Black Swan was nothing more than a horror movie "disguised" as art, which is worse cuz people are now like "lesbians are art", "Constantly exploiting/degrading female sexuality is art". Uhg. The movie was CAMP to the gills, and as a movie CAMPED to the gills I enjoyed it, but knowing that nobody was gonna take it this way, because ART, i was like uhg... -Friendly Stick in the Mud
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Post by stamper on Jan 6, 2011 7:12:11 GMT -8
---BLACK SWAN and THE KIDS ARE ALRIGHT SPOILER ALERT!--- here's an odd statement for ya... i don't know which lesbian sex scene i enjoyed more: Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis or Annette Benning and Julianne Moore. The first one is creepy/erotic. The second one is just awkward/hysterical. Oh me of the infinite ughs! Am I the only one living in 2011? Stamper I like you and everyone else here, but can we all get behind the idea that LESBIANS ARE NOT HAVING SEX WITH EACH OTHER TO FULLFILL LAME MALE FANTASIES! AND THAT LESBIANS ARE NOT IN ANY WAY EXCITED TO BE PART OF SOME CELLULOID ZOO FOR MALE ENTERTAINMENT! If this is the message we feel we are receiving from a film (Here's looking at you Black Swan!), should we not be like "go to bed already Mr. Aronofsky and make a movie after you've gotten all your misogynistic junior high daydream cobwebs out of your brain". Maybe? Maybe so. To me Black Swan was nothing more than a horror movie "disguised" as art, which is worse cuz people are now like "lesbians are art", "Constantly exploiting/degrading female sexuality is art". Uhg. The movie was CAMP to the gills, and as a movie CAMPED to the gills I enjoyed it, but knowing that nobody was gonna take it this way, because ART, i was like uhg... -Friendly Stick in the Mud i think you missed the joke. or perhaps i didn't make the joke obvious.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Jan 6, 2011 7:14:24 GMT -8
I don't know what's obvious anymore.
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Post by stamper on Jan 6, 2011 7:15:24 GMT -8
...or perhaps it was a bad joke.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Jan 6, 2011 7:18:49 GMT -8
I'm now closing the book on my feelings of the Black Swan to y'all. It's 2011, why am I wasting my time with 2010 bad movies when so many more 2011 bad movies await me.
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Post by Pea on Jan 6, 2011 7:20:17 GMT -8
Friendly Destroyer has officially gone off the deep end in this thread. U TRANSFORMED INTO THE BLACK SWAN
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Jan 6, 2011 7:21:53 GMT -8
Okay that part was cool.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Jan 6, 2011 7:28:54 GMT -8
Thanks to this board for not disowning me yet, but as I said - THE NOT SO VERY AT ALL UNSILENT OTHER SIDE CAN NOT REMAIN NOT SO VERY UNSILENT ANYMORE! The truth will be forced down your throats heard in 2011.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Jan 6, 2011 7:52:53 GMT -8
Little Fockers? Jesus, what you people must think of me. I'm all over that Yogi Bear movie when it comes out. Fuck everyone, I watched 'Marmaduke' and I laughed my ass off. There is a MASSIVE difference.
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Post by ComesWithASword on Jan 6, 2011 11:25:13 GMT -8
I'll stay in your corner friendly, I still haven't revisited Black Swan but the film hasn't stuck with me at all. All the drama is on the surface. There is a lot of yelling and crying and most of it doesn't come very naturally. Aronofsky hides the lack of emotional depth with the screenplay's "mind game" structure, which uses the surrealistic touches as pure character motives, rather than as supplements to the character's internal struggle. It makes it nice and exciting to watch, but when you really get to the meat of the drama (What I feel is the mother-daughter relationship) it falls completely on it's face. I laughed my ass off when (spoiler) she tries masturbating then sees her mom just sitting in the chair. Sooo ridiculous. The final act, however, is a fucking tour-de-force. Holy shit. the pacing is off the charts, you just can't help but feel caught up in it all, and the swan transformation is amazing. Though the whole (again, spoiler) "I think i killed Mila Kunis, oh wait its mee" was super predictable, but suppose justified as I would've wondered my they made such a big deal about their similarities for the last 100 minutes.
Anyways, I still don't know if I like it. Like I said earlier, I really hope i can enjoy it for it's b-movie, schlock, and exploitative qualities.
And if it deserves any award, It should be most mirrors used in any film ever. Seriously, even the movie "mirrors" didn't have as many mirrors.
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Post by ComesWithASword on Jan 6, 2011 11:26:03 GMT -8
There is a MASSIVE difference. There really isn't.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Jan 6, 2011 11:48:21 GMT -8
Yeah, well I managed to see True Grit AND Yogi Bear and enjoy them both on their own merits. Black Swan and The Fighter are on deck for this weekend. Sounds like you're just a movie snob so it sucks to be you.
A good comparison is films like The Garbage Pail Kids Movie, or Mac & Me. Trash, but they are time capsules of trash that age like a fine bum wine. If you have a stick so far up your ass that you'll only go see Oscar-worthy films then you are missing the entire point of American cinema.
So A.) yer over-intellectualizing, which makes you a boring person. B.) Yer missing out on some classic cheeze, which over the years holds up better than most of the films that have won Best Picture Oscars in the last twenty years (Shakespeare in Love?? Dances With Wolves?? Crash?? Gladiator?? Fucking DRIVING MISS DAISY?!?)
No use for Meet the Fockers, thank you very much, but if you shelled out bucks for Avatar or or Iron Man 2 then you have absolutely no fucking business whatsoever getting hoity-toity with ME about film.
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Post by Pea on Jan 6, 2011 13:37:05 GMT -8
Were people so nasty to each other about movies and music before the internet was invented? Damn you Al Gore!
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Post by Fig on Jan 6, 2011 14:02:28 GMT -8
Cripple fight!
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