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Post by Horned Gramma on Nov 27, 2010 10:27:08 GMT -8
Mars Volta is another one of those bands that people went apeshit over - around the time De-Loused came out - so I ran out and bought it and it just grated on my nerves. No dynamics, no structure, just unpleasant. But then I thought, this is probably something that needs to be seen live.
Yeah, nope.
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Post by wolfhat on Nov 27, 2010 12:05:46 GMT -8
Most of the hate from this board comes from their Sasquatch performance. I agree, and I hope we're right. I was fortunate enough to see their Sasquatch performance from beyond cymbal-throwing distance so my opinion of it was less clouded by my fight or flight response. They were, however, completely bonkers on stage. I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as when I saw them open for System a few years ago at an arena show. Now THAT was a wicked concert!
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Post by Lump on Nov 27, 2010 12:18:37 GMT -8
Just to make sure for those who weren't in attendance and are super curious, what was the reason for the Mars Volta performance being so awful?
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Post by Pea on Nov 27, 2010 12:23:22 GMT -8
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Post by emptyfox on Nov 27, 2010 17:27:23 GMT -8
I saw them open for System a few years ago at an arena show. Now THAT was a wicked concert! DUDE! Such a good show!
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Post by wolfhat on Nov 27, 2010 19:08:00 GMT -8
I saw them open for System a few years ago at an arena show. Now THAT was a wicked concert! DUDE! Such a good show! Yes! That night in general was quite the adventure for me, too. It's a long story, so I'll try to condense it, but feel free not to read this: First off, I didn't know about the concert until after it was sold out. I scoured Craigslist for weeks trying to pick up a pair of floor tickets for myself my girlfriend at the time for anything close to face value, but people were only selling for much more. I happened to check the morning of the show and saw that someone was offering a pair at face value, so I e-mailed and met up with them downtown to transact. When I got there she said that she had won the tickets from a radio contest and didn't know the bands so decided to sell, and after posting she received about 100 e-mails in 15 minutes but mine was the first. The radio station had also given her a copy of the latest Mars Volta album, so she threw that in to the deal as well. I was a happy camper. Later that evening, we were on our way to GM Place for the concert when we ran into some other concert goers on the SkyTrain. We got to talking to them, and even picked up some herbal supplements from them, and somehow in our conversation it came out that one person in their group thought the concert was actually at the Pacific Coliseum, another arena in the outskirts of town (we were downtown.) We checked our tickets, and in fact we were headed to the wrong place. Since we were already running late, this was not good news. We changed our travel plans and stayed on the SkyTrain a few more stops in order to connect with the #16 bus that would take us to the concert. The bus was packed to the brim with more concert goers, and pretty soon after we boarded the driver got on the intercom and asked if there was anyone on the bus who wasn't going to the System show. No one responded, so he excitedly exclaimed that we were "going express" and proceeded to drive us straight to the concert with out stopping. He even said he'd turn a blind eye when we asked if we could smoke up on the bus. Only in Vancouver. So we get to the show, going through about 5 security checkpoints before we make it to the floor, and Mars Volta is in the middle of a huge build-up to one of their songs. I don't even remember which one it was now, but it was epic. The place was alive and the energy unreal. Turns out that we missed about half of their set, but the half that we did see was awesome. And then System went on and time seemed to stop. I think the herbal supplements had a lot to do with this, but still. A great adventure, and a great show.
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Post by wolfhat on Nov 27, 2010 19:24:13 GMT -8
Just to make sure for those who weren't in attendance and are super curious, what was the reason for the Mars Volta performance being so awful? Oh, and to answer your question: they went insane at Sasquatch '09. It kinda seemed like their normally managed chaos went out of their control and rather than being insanely good and complicated it just turned into a cesspool of sound. On top of that, Cedric, in his madness, decided it was a good idea to throw heavy things into the audience. I was not nearly close enough to be worried for my own safety, but I've heard a number of people talk about how they were afraid for their lives. They were probably exaggerating, but I wouldn't have traded places with them.
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Post by Lump on Nov 27, 2010 20:20:02 GMT -8
I'm all for fucking with the crowd, but that's definitely crossing a line. That's an example of a guy Ian McKaye would put down at a Fugazi show. What an asshole.
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Post by emptyfox on Dec 1, 2010 16:31:27 GMT -8
lol herbal supplements eh? me too! hahhaha
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Post by vismundcygnus on Dec 2, 2010 14:25:40 GMT -8
the Mars Volta performs to the aesthetic of whatever album they are touring. when they played Sasquatch they were touring "the Bedlam in Goliath" which is their most straight-up face-melting progressive-rock album. it's big, loud, and at times, overwhelming. so were they. this is also made apparent by the material from which they were drawing. all songs were from Bedlam with the exception of two(cygnus... vismund cygnus from frances the mute; viscera eyes from amputechture. no de loused). now, with their most recent album, they play a lot from de loused and have composed a much more approachable live show around it. I happen to love the weirder Volta(day of the baphomets is one of the greatest prog songs of all time) and think that their '08 set was beautiful and a tremendous success in light of what they were trying to achieve. sorry to whoever took that cymbal. thank you for your sacrifice.
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Post by Lump on Dec 2, 2010 22:16:52 GMT -8
Live versions (and often recorded versions) of Fiery Furnaces songs usually have crazy time signatures/changes. God, I love those adorable siblings.
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Post by ComesWithASword on Dec 7, 2010 22:04:58 GMT -8
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Post by ComesWithASword on Dec 7, 2010 22:08:12 GMT -8
also:
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Post by Lump on Dec 7, 2010 22:09:18 GMT -8
Awwww, that brings back memories of a young Lump tryin' to figure out what the hell that time signature WAS?! (For those keeping score at home, it's 10/8, or 2 bar phrases of 6/8 and 4/8)
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Post by bradberad12 on Dec 11, 2010 11:14:14 GMT -8
Awwww, that brings back memories of a young Lump tryin' to figure out what the hell that time signature WAS?! (For those keeping score at home, it's 10/8, or 2 bar phrases of 6/8 and 4/8) I guess maybe I dont know time signatures all that well ( ia have never taken a formal music theory lesson), but I hear this as 3 + 2/4 I can keep a good rhythm going 1,2,3/1,2 in my head...is this right?
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Post by ComesWithASword on Dec 11, 2010 11:24:36 GMT -8
haha, alls i know is that it aint in 4/4. And that it's a great song.
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Post by Lump on Dec 11, 2010 11:38:16 GMT -8
That's also technically correct as well, as 10/8 is the same thing as 5/4. Just felt differently. I hear it as a phrase of 6/8 then a phrase of 2/4 of 4/8.
I would divy up the counting of the beats like this: | 1 2 3 | 1 2 3 | 1 2 | 1 2 |
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Post by J. Walter Weatherman on Feb 13, 2011 15:04:16 GMT -8
This thread was made for me.
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Post by Geoff on Feb 13, 2011 16:16:56 GMT -8
MORE OPETH
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Post by interstateeight on Feb 13, 2011 16:28:13 GMT -8
Oh sweet a thread where everyone gets to flex their pretentious muscles to citing to Radiohead and butt rock as performed by guys who got high more than they drank.
I'm gonna start a thread for your favorite songs that feature certain chord progressions so everyone on the board knows the real musicians from the phonies.
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