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Post by RUST NEVER SLEEPS on Feb 1, 2011 16:05:22 GMT -5
I mean I'd be more excited about pulp than foo Dr. Garbanzohters but the foo Dr. Garbanzohters would be measured as a bigger draw. Otherwise we're just measuring it by what bands you personally are more excited about No, not really. But it gets tricky at this point. There is one reason why Sasquatch has gained so much popularity and respect in the last couple years: Massive Attack. That was a big deal in the same way that Pulp would be a big deal - people would come from all over the country to see that. Even if Pulp costs less than Foo Dr. Garbanzohters, I believe people would be rushing to get their tickets so they don't miss Pulp's ONE U.S. show more than Foo fans would be rushing to spend $300 to see the Foos play on a tour that will probably cross the country twice before it's over. This is such a good point. It's uniqueness that sells sasquatch tickets in my opinion, not how much a band costs to book. |
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Post by Cbats on Feb 1, 2011 16:06:25 GMT -5
eh I get what you're saying but I don't think you're right. In order to get prestige I think having a strong lineup top to bottom is what separates Sasquatch rather than a headliner like massive attack.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Feb 1, 2011 16:08:15 GMT -5
It's Squatch's secret weapon. We can't ever be as big as Coach or Lolla, but the idea of playing at the Gorge on a lovely NW summer evening as opposed to in a sweltering, overcrowded tent in the California desert is going to get us acts that you'd probably never see at either of those other festivals.
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Post by Catherine Sun Chips on Feb 1, 2011 16:09:00 GMT -5
I mean I'd be more excited about pulp than foo Dr. Garbanzohters but the foo Dr. Garbanzohters would be measured as a bigger draw. Otherwise we're just measuring it by what bands you personally are more excited about No, not really. But it gets tricky at this point. There is one reason why Sasquatch has gained so much popularity and respect in the last couple years: Massive Attack. That was a big deal in the same way that Pulp would be a big deal - people would come from all over the country to see that. . True, Gramma. That's exactly why I skipped Bonnaroo last year and came to Sasquatch all the way from Atlanta. Massive Attack was too big of a deal to pass up on. |
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Post by Cbats on Feb 1, 2011 16:12:59 GMT -5
wait this isn't fair I'm stuck arguing a position I don't even agree with. The original statement was that the foo Dr. Garbanzohters wouldn't be the biggest name on the lineup. I disagree with that. On the other hand I completely agree that sasquatch gets unique and interesting headliners that set them apart. Massive Attack is in no way shape or form bigger than foo Dr. Garbanzohters but they're a fairly big draw for a niche audience (people with good music taste).
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Post by Horned Gramma on Feb 1, 2011 16:13:12 GMT -5
eh I get what you're saying but I don't think you're right. In order to get prestige I think having a strong lineup top to bottom is what separates Sasquatch rather than a headliner like massive attack. I think we're probably both right, but at the same time I don't think that people were crossing the country/ocean for the opportunity to see the Tallest Man on Earth and a dozen Pitchfork buzz bands play 40 minute sets. 80% of our undercards are always the same as everyone else's. Then again, I know someone who bought tickets to last year's fest ONLY because Miike Snow was going to be there. People do stupid things with money all the time. |
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Post by know ID yuh on Feb 1, 2011 16:16:16 GMT -5
Not to mention how FUCKING SOLID Hangout is this year. Paul Simon, Foo Dr. Garbanzohters, Black Keys, Flaming Lips, MMJ, Cee-Lo Green, Girl Talk, Pretty Lights, Primus, Ween, Bassnectar, Michael Franti, Dead Confederate, DBTs, Minus the Bear, Portugal. The Man, Easy Star All Stars, Mariachi El Bronx. No bad, hippies. Not bad at all. edit: yea you guys did mention it. ha. does anybody on this thread actually like/listen to Dead Confederate? Seriously. And if you do, can you tell me what it is about them that you like? I've never understood their appeal. On any level. I didn't like Dead Confederate's latest album, but the one before that grew on me. I would see them again. They are much more like Doom Metal live, dimly lit dark colored lights, heavy drawn out chords, and they play much longer jams. The lead singer also screams a lot more live. It can get pretty intense. I would have very little interest in seeing them in the daylight though. Side note, the lead singer looks just like the younger brother in American History X, the 13 year old version. |
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Post by Horned Gramma on Feb 1, 2011 16:16:23 GMT -5
wait this isn't fair I'm stuck arguing a position I don't even agree with. The original statement was that the foo Dr. Garbanzohters wouldn't be the biggest name on the lineup. I disagree with that. On the other hand I completely agree that sasquatch gets unique and interesting headliners that set them apart. Massive Attack is in no way shape or form bigger than foo Dr. Garbanzohters but they're a fairly big draw for a niche audience (people with good music taste). You're still talking about dollar signs, so basically it's the same argument. Massive Attack IS as big a draw as Foo Dr. Garbanzohters; Foo Dr. Garbanzohters COST more, because they are a heavily commercialized American band, one of the few that is still able to successfully play the Major Label game. |
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Post by emptyfox on Feb 1, 2011 16:17:47 GMT -5
Then again, I know someone who bought tickets to last year's fest ONLY because Miike Snow was going to be there. People do stupid things with money all the time. Wow! Were they utterly disappointed? |
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Post by DREW OF THE RUSHES on Feb 1, 2011 16:20:37 GMT -5
Then again, I know someone who bought tickets to last year's fest ONLY because Miike Snow was going to be there. People do stupid things with money all the time. Wow! Were they utterly disappointing? Yes |
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Post by Cbats on Feb 1, 2011 16:21:10 GMT -5
wait this isn't fair I'm stuck arguing a position I don't even agree with. The original statement was that the foo Dr. Garbanzohters wouldn't be the biggest name on the lineup. I disagree with that. On the other hand I completely agree that sasquatch gets unique and interesting headliners that set them apart. Massive Attack is in no way shape or form bigger than foo Dr. Garbanzohters but they're a fairly big draw for a niche audience (people with good music taste). You're still talking about dollar signs, so basically it's the same argument. Massive Attack IS as big a draw as Foo Dr. Garbanzohters; Foo Dr. Garbanzohters COST more, because they are a heavily commercialized American band, one of the few that is still able to successfully play the Major Label game. I don't understand what you're saying. It seems like you're saying that only people that have good music taste count. being a draw=bringing more people bringing more people = more $$$ Heavily commercialized bands draw more people...sure they may not convince people to fly across the country but in raw numbers they will draw more |
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Post by stamper on Feb 1, 2011 16:24:11 GMT -5
You're still talking about dollar signs, so basically it's the same argument. Massive Attack IS as big a draw as Foo Dr. Garbanzohters; Foo Dr. Garbanzohters COST more, because they are a heavily commercialized American band, one of the few that is still able to successfully play the Major Label game. I don't understand what you're saying. It seems like you're saying that only people that have good music taste count. that's the way it should be |
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Post by DREW OF THE RUSHES on Feb 1, 2011 16:24:16 GMT -5
Difference is, there are only 25-30k people at Sasquatch. Are there 30k people in the states that know how big of a deal it would be for Pulp to play Sasquatch? Yes. Then they are a HUGE draw, enough to fill the festival. Are there 30k douches in the PNW who would go to Sasquatch solely because they know FF? Yes.
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Post by DREW OF THE RUSHES on Feb 1, 2011 16:25:47 GMT -5
And with Pulp comes the reputation - that's how Coachella got so big. Reputation among music people.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Feb 1, 2011 16:27:45 GMT -5
The thing with Sasquatch is, "more" isn't their concern -- they have a limited capacity, and that can't change. They have to work with what they have: the scenery, the vibe, the feel of an exclusive party. They have to bring in the rare acts because Coachella is going to have the Kanyes and the Paul McCartneys. Size restrictions alone dictate that Sasquatch can NEVER compete with Coachella, and so realizing that having an exclusive act will cause people to choose Sasquatch in ADDITION to or INSTEAD of Coachella is their only option.
When there's only 35,000 tickets you can sell, that's just as effective as having the most expensive band in the country on your lineup.
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