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Post by Lump on Dec 14, 2010 17:14:40 GMT -8
I noticed a lot of people ruling band with February visits to the Northwest out for the fest. Am I the only one that seems to think February is kinda far away to really rule bands out? Maybe the higher up bands, but it seems weird ruling out smaller bands (like Smith Westerns, who I saw last summer, and sounded great even though they're all younger than me) that play shows 3 months out.
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Post by ComesWithASword on Dec 14, 2010 18:04:13 GMT -8
I'm pretty sure Cymbals Eat Guitars and Japandroids played Vancouver in March, maybe even April.
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Post by Lump on Dec 14, 2010 18:09:55 GMT -8
exactly
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Post by Rusty on Dec 14, 2010 19:27:19 GMT -8
I noticed a lot of people ruling band with February visits to the Northwest out for the fest. Am I the only one that seems to think February is kinda far away to really rule bands out? Maybe the higher up bands, but it seems weird ruling out smaller bands (like Smith Westerns, who I saw last summer, and sounded great even though they're all younger than me) that play shows 3 months out. I totally agree. Of course the bigger bands selling out stadiums will try to avoid PNW area in the months preceding Sasquatch. On the other hand a small indie band that can fill a 100 (or even larger) seat venue will not have to avoid that area;Except maybe in the same month/week of the festival.
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Post by topspin on Dec 14, 2010 20:14:34 GMT -8
My city's weekly alternative newspaper ran an article about the embargo sasquatch puts on its bands preceding the festival a couple years ago. I wish I could remember more about it but i certainly don't think it extends to Canada.
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Post by Rusty on Dec 14, 2010 20:22:03 GMT -8
Hmm I would think it would have to extend to Canada for some of the bigger bands. A huge percentage of attendance must be made up of Canadians, but who knows?
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Post by funnygrrl on Dec 14, 2010 21:18:21 GMT -8
Hey rust, kings of leon played in Calgary a couple of days before they played at sasquatch.
And every year we see about 5 or 6 mid level bands play both calgary and sasquatch.
So it doesnt reach canada.
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Post by know ID yuh on Dec 14, 2010 21:51:31 GMT -8
We've been talking about this for years, and it's fine that a lot of us are new here, but it's really not that difficult to comprehend.
There is a Seattle radius clause that excludes most bands from playing both Sasquatch and Seattle. Seattle does not mean Vancouver or Portland. In most people's minds, Sasquatch is Seattle (ask Perry Ferrell). You can figure out the rest on your own.
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Post by jeffmac on Dec 15, 2010 2:10:46 GMT -8
We've been talking about this for years, and it's fine that a lot of us are new here, but it's really not that difficult to comprehend. There is a Seattle radius clause that excludes most bands from playing both Sasquatch and Seattle. Seattle does not mean Vancouver or Portland. In most people's minds, Sasquatch is Seattle (ask Perry Ferrell). You can figure out the rest on your own. THIS
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Post by Lump on Dec 15, 2010 7:18:38 GMT -8
We've been talking about this for years, and it's fine that a lot of us are new here, but it's really not that difficult to comprehend. There is a Seattle radius clause that excludes most bands from playing both Sasquatch and Seattle. Seattle does not mean Vancouver or Portland. In most people's minds, Sasquatch is Seattle (ask Perry Ferrell). You can figure out the rest on your own. And do we know what the length of time this clause is in effect for?
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Post by Horned Gramma on Dec 15, 2010 8:24:10 GMT -8
In most people's minds, Sasquatch is Seattle (ask Perry Ferrell). You can figure out the rest on your own. That was hilarious. Man Perry was one fucking weird dude. "Visit each other in your tents tonight!"
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Post by musicfiend087 on Dec 15, 2010 19:04:05 GMT -8
Pendulum is playing Showbox Sodo February 19th which rules them out.
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Post by Pea on Dec 15, 2010 20:56:54 GMT -8
who ever ruled them in?
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Post by know ID yuh on Dec 15, 2010 21:08:21 GMT -8
We've been talking about this for years, and it's fine that a lot of us are new here, but it's really not that difficult to comprehend. There is a Seattle radius clause that excludes most bands from playing both Sasquatch and Seattle. Seattle does not mean Vancouver or Portland. In most people's minds, Sasquatch is Seattle (ask Perry Ferrell). You can figure out the rest on your own. And do we know what the length of time this clause is in effect for? At around the time the lineup is announced, give or take three weeks. It makes sense both ways when you think about it. If half the bands playing Sasquatch are playing in Seattle, the draw of Sasquatch becomes less sparkly. On the other hand, if a band is playing in Seattle in April, they will sell less tickets to their show due to Sasquatch attendees knowing they can see them at Sasquatch. Reunion bands, and sold out shows add to the exceptions. In most people's minds, Sasquatch is Seattle (ask Perry Ferrell). You can figure out the rest on your own. That was hilarious. Man Perry was one fucking weird dude. "Visit each other in your tents tonight!" I just loved how he addressed the crowd as Seattle 28 times, and each time, a handful of fans cheered, while most of the crowd looked at him like, "What, I'm not from Seattle?" All the while he was sipping wine with his pinkie extended. Then he started telling stories about his nostalgic experiences at the Gorge (meaning his nostalgic experiences in Seattle). My city's weekly alternative newspaper ran an article about the embargo sasquatch puts on its bands preceding the festival a couple years ago. I wish I could remember more about it but i certainly don't think it extends to Canada. Since you deleted a follow up to this post that I was going to quote, it is interesting that Spokane might be included in the radius clause. But in the grand scheme of things, and I mean this as politely as possible, who gives a crap about Spokane?
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Post by Whoopsie Goldberg on Dec 15, 2010 22:49:32 GMT -8
spocaine is worthless. the knitting factory can suck a nut
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Post by jeffmac on Dec 15, 2010 22:50:35 GMT -8
Spokane has a shitty music market. Agreed totally.
There are a couple situations where the clause didn't take effect. Caribou and the xx both played in Seattle a month before and still played last year. So who knows. But it generally is a good rule to start with.
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Post by Lump on Dec 16, 2010 8:16:08 GMT -8
Yeah, I saw Caribou in Seattle the Thursday before Sasquatch, so I'm just going to guess that the radius clause is kinda tailored differently to different level bands. Using one method for every band would be rather silly on Sasquatch's part. (Feel free to prove me wrong, if you can, this clause stuff always interests me.)
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Post by Horned Gramma on Dec 16, 2010 8:20:42 GMT -8
It seems logical and fair that bottom tier bands should be able to perform as many shows in the region as they would otherwise, especially if they aren't local. And I'm pretty sure that in general Sasquatch! and LiveNation aren't too concerned about Caribou stealing a substantial amount of ticket sales.
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Post by Lump on Dec 16, 2010 8:40:43 GMT -8
Exactly my point.
I'm going to go ahead with the conclusion that: Headliner/other later mainstage bands: clause is of high importance, all other lower tier bands: not that important.
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Post by Cbats on Dec 16, 2010 9:46:03 GMT -8
I don't think that it's that only the large bands have the radius clause, it's that you can ask for an exception and they will usually offer it to you. I don't remember the article but I linked to one awhile ago about the lollapalooza clause and they basically said that they almost always offer it if asked but that few people ask.
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