Tom
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Post by Tom on Jan 18, 2011 20:07:35 GMT -8
Seems like historically Sasquatch has tried to get their money's worth when the bring in an act. Like when Girl Talk was an artist and a joke at the same time? Right. I guess
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Post by matt on Jan 18, 2011 20:17:46 GMT -8
Foo Fighters/Outkast/Soundgarden/Arcade Fire/the Flaming Lips performing Dark Side of the Moon/The Black Keys/The Roots/PJ Harvey/Death Cab for Cutie/Queens of the Stone Age/Fleet Foxes/Mudhoney/The Decemberists/Wu Tang Clan/Fistful of Mercy/Bright Eyes/Ghostland Observatory/Chemical Brothers/Cold War Kids/Cake/Cee Lo Green/Chromeo/Wiz Khalifa/Janelle Monae/Surfer Blood/Das Racist/Fitz and the Tantrums/The Drums/Matt & Kim/Metric/Best Coast/And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead/Sleigh Bells/Wavves/Florence and the Machine/Wolf Parade/Flying Lotus/Black Mountain/Black Rebel Motorcycle Club/the Builders and the Butchers/Dead Confederate/Fruit Bats/Toro Y Moi/Destroyer/the Twilight Singers/Wire/Menomena/Weekend/Cage the Elephant/The Kills/Blue Scholars/Jaill/Grinderman/The Streets/Happy Birthday/Fergus and Geronimo/Old 97s/Pearly Gates Music/Mew/Warpaint/Retribution Gospel Choir/The Presidents of the USA/Wild Flag/Papercuts/Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks/Ted Leo & the Pharmacists/Titus Andronicus/Wintersleep/Delta Spirit/The Head and the Heart/Moondoggies/Macklemore/Mister Heavenly/Ezra Furman and the Harpoons/Mad Rad/Maktub/the Seattle Rock Orchestra performing Radiohead/Joel McHale/Childish Gambino/Donald Glover/Dave Attell/Nick Kroll/John Mulaney/Rob Delaney/Reggie Watts/Nikki Glaser/Anthony Jesselnik/Wyatt Cyenac Notable omissions from this list are Twin Shadow and Foster the People, the first two Sasquatch "rumors." It seems like they would be the first two to put on a fake post given how long there has been mention of them...
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Post by wolfhat on Jan 18, 2011 20:26:14 GMT -8
Notable omissions from this list are Twin Shadow and Foster the People, the first two Sasquatch "rumors." It seems like they would be the first two to put on a fake post given how long there has been mention of them... Exactly! These subtle omissions really throw me. It's the fact that this line-up is just a few steps below ideal that makes me seriously consider its validity.
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Post by know ID yuh on Jan 18, 2011 20:32:15 GMT -8
I don't want to pick apart this lineup piece by piece, because in my mind, fake lineups don't deserve the credit some of you are giving it. I will quickly touch on the headliners though.
Foo Fighters / Soundgarden / Arcade Fire / Outcast
That is a gigantic list of headliners for any festival. Who would be a sub-headliner at Coachella? None of them. (shut up, I know Coachella is only three days).
Let me just throw a couple quick numbers out there. Sasquatch sells 25,000 tickets. Lollapalooza sells 75,000. Let's just assume each festival landed those four acts. At $300 per festival pass, Lollapalooza would make $15 million more than Sasquatch selling out the festival, on tickets alone. Considering most headliners outside of the U2/Rolling Stones (and many others who won't be at Sasquatch) cost a million or less, that $15 million is a huge gain for one festival, and a huge loss for the other.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Jan 18, 2011 20:32:35 GMT -8
I hate being fucked with so efficiently.
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Post by matt on Jan 18, 2011 20:38:48 GMT -8
I don't want to pick apart this lineup piece by piece, because in my mind, fake lineups don't deserve the credit some of you are giving it. I will quickly touch on the headliners though. Foo Fighters / Soundgarden / Arcade Fire / Outcast That is a gigantic list of headliners for any festival. Who would be a sub-headliner at Coachella? None of them. (shut up, I know Coachella is only three days). Let me just throw a couple quick numbers out there. Sasquatch sells 25,000 tickets. Lollapalooza sells 75,000. Let's just assume each festival landed those four acts. At $300 per festival pass, Lollapalooza would make $15 million more than Sasquatch selling out the festival, on tickets alone. Considering most headliners outside of the U2/Rolling Stones (and many others who won't be at Sasquatch) cost a million or less, that $15 million is a huge gain for one festival, and a huge loss for the other. I mentioned this before without a response: I see the obvious logic behind your post, but is it possible that Sasquatch! made a considerably larger amount of money than they spent on acts last year in preparation for the 10th anniversary? They also easily could have whored themselves out to advertisers in order to bring in a couple more bucks for a kick ass huge show.
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Tom
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Post by Tom on Jan 18, 2011 20:47:51 GMT -8
I don't want to pick apart this lineup piece by piece, because in my mind, fake lineups don't deserve the credit some of you are giving it. I will quickly touch on the headliners though. Foo Fighters / Soundgarden / Arcade Fire / Outcast That is a gigantic list of headliners for any festival. Who would be a sub-headliner at Coachella? None of them. (shut up, I know Coachella is only three days). Let me just throw a couple quick numbers out there. Sasquatch sells 25,000 tickets. Lollapalooza sells 75,000. Let's just assume each festival landed those four acts. At $300 per festival pass, Lollapalooza would make $15 million more than Sasquatch selling out the festival, on tickets alone. Considering most headliners outside of the U2/Rolling Stones (and many others who won't be at Sasquatch) cost a million or less, that $15 million is a huge gain for one festival, and a huge loss for the other. Great point, but i don't think that they plan to make their money off ticket sales. I know there is some profit to be had there but the real money is in advertising and merchandise. A newspaper doesn't make money off its subscribers (or enough to care about) they make money off of their advertising and the number of subscribers are simply a tool to bring in more advertisers.
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Post by know ID yuh on Jan 18, 2011 20:56:23 GMT -8
Tom, would advertisers prefer an audience of 25,000, or 75,000?
And yes musicguy, I'm sure Sasquatch makes a lot of money. They also sold out last year in record time with Massive Attack/My Morning Jacket/Ween headlining. None of them are huge draws in the NW. If they want a kick ass 10th anniversary, they don't blow their money on four headliners, when they know they can sell out the festival having a solid lineup, top to bottom.
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Post by Cbats on Jan 18, 2011 21:07:15 GMT -8
I see the obvious logic behind your post, but is it possible that Sasquatch! made a considerably larger amount of money than they spent on acts last year in preparation for the 10th anniversary? No
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Post by matt on Jan 18, 2011 22:52:47 GMT -8
Foo Fighters/Outkast/Soundgarden/Arcade Fire/the Flaming Lips performing Dark Side of the Moon/The Black Keys/The Roots/PJ Harvey/Death Cab for Cutie/Queens of the Stone Age/Fleet Foxes/Mudhoney/The Decemberists/Wu Tang Clan/Fistful of Mercy/Bright Eyes/Ghostland Observatory/Chemical Brothers/Cold War Kids/Cake/Cee Lo Green/Chromeo/Wiz Khalifa/Janelle Monae/Surfer Blood/Das Racist/Fitz and the Tantrums/The Drums/Matt & Kim/Metric/Best Coast/And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead/Sleigh Bells/Wavves/Florence and the Machine/Wolf Parade/Flying Lotus/Black Mountain/Black Rebel Motorcycle Club/the Builders and the Butchers/Dead Confederate/Fruit Bats/Toro Y Moi/Destroyer/the Twilight Singers/Wire/Menomena/Weekend/Cage the Elephant/The Kills/Blue Scholars/Jaill/Grinderman/The Streets/Happy Birthday/Fergus and Geronimo/Old 97s/Pearly Gates Music/Mew/Warpaint/Retribution Gospel Choir/The Presidents of the USA/Wild Flag/Papercuts/Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks/Ted Leo & the Pharmacists/Titus Andronicus/Wintersleep/Delta Spirit/The Head and the Heart/Moondoggies/Macklemore/Mister Heavenly/Ezra Furman and the Harpoons/Mad Rad/Maktub/the Seattle Rock Orchestra performing Radiohead/Joel McHale/Childish Gambino/Donald Glover/Dave Attell/Nick Kroll/John Mulaney/Rob Delaney/Reggie Watts/Nikki Glaser/Anthony Jesselnik/Wyatt Cyenac Bands that overlap with the Coachella lineup: Arcade Fire, The Black Keys, PJ Harvey, Fistful of Mercy, Bright Eyes, Chemical Brothers, Cold War Kids, Cee Lo Green, Chromeo, Wiz Khalifa, Best Coast, Sleigh Bells, Wire, Menomena, and Titus Andronicus. That's at least 15. I probably missed some. Aren't there usually less than that?
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Post by matt on Jan 18, 2011 22:56:22 GMT -8
Missed Cage the Elephant. So at least 16...
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Post by Pea on Jan 18, 2011 23:35:27 GMT -8
Bands that overlap with the Coachella lineup: Arcade Fire, The Black Keys, PJ Harvey, Fistful of Mercy, Bright Eyes, Chemical Brothers, Cold War Kids, Cee Lo Green, Chromeo, Wiz Khalifa, Best Coast, Sleigh Bells, Wire, Menomena, and Titus Andronicus. That's at least 15. I probably missed some. Aren't there usually less than that? Last year LCD Soundsystem, Vampire Weekend, deadmau5, Passion Pit, She & Him, MGMT, Dirty Projectors, The xx, Edward Sharp, Camera Obscura, Jets Overhead, Temper Trap, Portugal. The Man, Girls, Pavement, Miike Snow, Mayor Hawthorne, Local Natives, and The Middle East all played both fests. If anything, we can count on a lot of the Coachella undercard to show up at Sasquatch.
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Post by ComesWithASword on Jan 18, 2011 23:52:40 GMT -8
Alright. DFA79 is reforming. I'm in no position to deny Outkast anymore. That lineup may be real after all (probably not though).
The other main thing is what pea pointed out earlier, there is hardly any dance tent acts. There are the Chems, Chromeo, Flying Lotus, and Sleigh Bells. If there are 3 late night acts then I'd assume they're the Chems, Flips doing Dark Side and either Chromeo/Ghostland Observatory/Flying Lotus. With the growing mainstream popularity of EDM music/DJs I'd expect better representation on the initial lineup. Last year was stacked in that regard right off the bat.
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Post by Warily on Jan 18, 2011 23:55:10 GMT -8
Alright. DFA79 is reforming. I'm in no position to deny Outkast anymore. That lineup may be real after all (probably not though). The other main thing is what pea pointed out earlier, there is hardly any dance tent acts. There are the Chems, Chromeo, Flying Lotus, and Sleigh Bells. If there are 3 late night acts then I'd assume they're the Chems, Flips doing Dark Side and either Chromeo/Ghostland Observatory/Flying Lotus. With the growing mainstream popularity of EDM music/DJs I'd expect better representation on the initial lineup. Last year was stacked in that regard right off the bat. I'm definitely looking forward to be listening to more electronic bands!
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Post by Rusty on Jan 18, 2011 23:56:53 GMT -8
When I first saw that lineup I was convinced it was real. After going over it a bunch of times there are three things that are wrong. 1) too many fucking headliners 2) Outkast 3) Where are the dance tent acts.
Soo pretty much the same reasons you guys thought it was bogus.
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Post by Cbats on Jan 18, 2011 23:59:40 GMT -8
Alright. DFA79 is reforming. I'm in no position to deny Outkast anymore. That lineup may be real after all (probably not though). I have no idea what that means. The problem with outkast isn't that it's unlikely that they will ever reunite (like it was with DFA), it's that if they did it would be huge news and they wouldn't do it at Sasquatch. Outkast is significantly bigger than ANY name on the Coachella lineup this year. If anything this whole thing makes that list look even more ridiculous because it would mean that Sasquatch's lineup kicks Coachella's ass
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Post by ComesWithASword on Jan 19, 2011 0:02:10 GMT -8
No, it's that I was as sure that DFA79 wasn't reforming as I was that Outkast wouldn't play Sasquatch. I don't now what to believe anymore.
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Post by Pea on Jan 19, 2011 0:04:58 GMT -8
WHAT DOES IT MEEEEEAN
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Post by Drew on Jan 19, 2011 0:18:33 GMT -8
I know know pretty much quashed all hope, but since I didn't get to gush... ...if this is the lineup, the fest will sell out the day after it's announced. The billing seems vaguely realistic - Chem Bros. have the stature to headline Sasquatch, but not the brand of music - they couldn't put them up against another EDM act in the tent. So, why not give them three hours from, like 9-midnight, in the tent alongside a headliner like Soundgarden? I can tell you where I'd be. This is a model Coachella has been very successful with, and I know that we're not in socal, but EDM is growing by leaps and bounds everywhere, and Sasquatch's population is more diverse every year as its reputation shines. And honestly, the undercard isn't that much better than last year's. Take out the headliners (FF, AF, Outkast, Soundgarden) and subs (Lips, Black Keys, Roots, PJ, Death Cab) and the lineup looks pretty realistic to me. All I'm saying is, 10th anniversary show, Zacks said they have big plans...you just never know. Have you been to Sasquatch before? The Chemical Brothers would need a tent at least 3 times larger than the one they had last year. I would imagine them drawing a similar sized crowd to last year's Deadmau5 set. I think they definitely got it right by putting the late night EDM artists on the Bigfoot stage. My mistake, I meant the bigfoot.
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Post by guerrillacandy on Jan 19, 2011 2:21:28 GMT -8
Hey folks Travis with Guerrilla Candy here. I wanted to confirm with you all that this lineup is false. The reason I can confirm its falsity is because I created it. I didn't expect this to be taken so seriously and it wasn't my intent to mess with anyone or get expectations up. I was just bored and thought it would be fun to post a fake lineup on here under the guess the lineup thread since I figured it would be appreciated more on these boards than elsewhere on the web. I logged in under the username Yoshimi because I didn't remember my old username/password. I'm using this username, Guerrillacandy, to be 100 percent legit and also to let you know that this lineup is fake. My apologies if I upset anyone with my guess at the lineup. I am flattered several of you thought this was a genuine lineup but sadly it isn't. I was hoping the inclusion of Outkast would be the red flag that gave it away. I have no insider info or insight whatsoever into who is and isn't performing at Sasquatch! this year, although I did make my prediction based off several educated guesses so some of it may be plausible. Anyway, I'm glad you all enjoyed my conjecture and I'll see you all at the Gorge Memorial Day weekend. I wasn't sure where to post this on these boards but I figured this would be as god a spot any so here is what may, or may not, be a fairly accurate forecast for Sasquatch! 2011: Foo Fighters/Outkast/Soundgarden/Arcade Fire/the Flaming Lips performing Dark Side of the Moon/The Black Keys/The Roots/PJ Harvey/Death Cab for Cutie/Queens of the Stone Age/Fleet Foxes/Mudhoney/The Decemberists/Wu Tang Clan/Fistful of Mercy/Bright Eyes/Ghostland Observatory/Chemical Brothers/Cold War Kids/Cake/Cee Lo Green/Chromeo/Wiz Khalifa/Janelle Monae/Surfer Blood/Das Racist/Fitz and the Tantrums/The Drums/Matt & Kim/Metric/Best Coast/And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead/Sleigh Bells/Wavves/Florence and the Machine/Wolf Parade/Flying Lotus/Black Mountain/Black Rebel Motorcycle Club/the Builders and the Butchers/Dead Confederate/Fruit Bats/Toro Y Moi/Destroyer/the Twilight Singers/Wire/Menomena/Weekend/Cage the Elephant/The Kills/Blue Scholars/Jaill/Grinderman/The Streets/Happy Birthday/Fergus and Geronimo/Old 97s/Pearly Gates Music/Mew/Warpaint/Retribution Gospel Choir/The Presidents of the USA/Wild Flag/Papercuts/Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks/Ted Leo & the Pharmacists/Titus Andronicus/Wintersleep/Delta Spirit/The Head and the Heart/Moondoggies/Macklemore/Mister Heavenly/Ezra Furman and the Harpoons/Mad Rad/Maktub/the Seattle Rock Orchestra performing Radiohead/Joel McHale/Childish Gambino/Donald Glover/Dave Attell/Nick Kroll/John Mulaney/Rob Delaney/Reggie Watts/Nikki Glaser/Anthony Jesselnik/Wyatt Cyenac
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