Post by HecticDialectic on Apr 28, 2011 16:00:43 GMT -5
@fd I definitely am all of those things and well aware that it biases my viewpoints. I'm not trying to look at anything in a vacuum, but I also think that considering what constraints might be imposed on how social systems are constructed based on the basic ways in which people are wired are important to consider.
I don't think we are as far from reconciling our viewpoints as it looks like- I think there is a great deal of evil in the world, and there are definitely parts of the porn industry that exemplify our evils. I am not myself a huge supported of the porn industry, though I'd be lying if I said I've never watched porn. I do however think the issue is with more legitimate forms of objectification, as they are a whole lot more tractable than the influence of socialization.
There are designated places on the internet for porn. This is not one of them. It should stay on it's xxx sites. I personally think it's disgusting and in no way an expression of natural sexuality. Keep your perv avi's to yourself.
Yesterday at 8:19am, pvmtchiic wrote: I'm tempted to give in and get a pair of TOMS this year. I saw some sweet patterned ones. I'm kind of a shoe whore female.
On a related not to respecting women and all that stuff, anyone heard of slut walk?
Basically at a college somewhere (I think near Toronto) a cop was talking to the students about avoiding sexual assult and made a comment along the lines of "It would be good if girls didnt dress so slutty" (that is a paraphrase, but that was the general feeling of the comment) and everyone got mad.
This is a totally moronic statement because it just blames the victims (she was asking for it) so a bunch of people in Toronto staged a slut walk which was basically girls dressing slutty.
While I totally agree with the cause, but I really wonder if any guys who saw this thought "hmmm they have a good point" or if pure animal instincts kicked in and they were just enamoured by all the scantely clad women.
Post by StormyPinkness on Apr 28, 2011 17:35:44 GMT -5
I am aware of this. I agree that the police in question were completely out of line. Victim blaming is never ok and no one ever is "asking for it."
I think the Slutwalk was attempting to raise awareness about this issue and it apparently did do that. I don't think the people who organized it should have to be afraid they are just whetting the appetites of any lascivious males or females in the vicinity. Surely that will happen if that is the type of person who is inclined to behave like that anyway. But I think that is kind of the point. Just because a certain person is attracted to/turned on by scantily clad women does not mean they are bad. It also does not mean it is ever ok to sexually assault someone. I think overall it was a good thing because when you have the authority figures that are supposed to be helping you telling you it was your fault you were sexually assaulted, how is anyone ever supposed to feel safe? This was a way to raise awareness and make it something that people think about.