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Post by Horned Gramma on Dec 2, 2010 16:04:34 GMT -8
My favorites of 2010 (in no particular order):
LCD Soundsystem - This is Happening Philistines Jr - If a Band Plays in the Woods... Alexis Gideon - Video Musics II: Sun Wu-Kong Clem Snide - The Meat of Life Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest Gorillaz - Plastic Beach Oneohtrix Point Never - Returnal Snowglobe - Little More Lived In Tony Da Gatorra vs. Gruff Rhys - The Terror of Cosmic Loneliness The Residents - The Ughs! Sleigh Bells - Treats Julian Lynch - Mare Das Racist - Shut Up, Dude Radar Brothers - The Illustrated Garden
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thunderroad
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Post by thunderroad on Dec 2, 2010 16:23:38 GMT -8
We share the same views Gramma, my post was just an attempt on "cooling the jets" in terms of slapping all the "downloaders" with the criminal label. My drug thing was simply a comparison to illustrate that in the reality we live in (not the ideal and reasonable alternative), both are considered illegal. Unfortunately our perceptions on morality regarding the subjects are little more than justifications in the eyes the unreasonable law. But, surprise surprise, things are never that black and white (as I know you know). People are against downloading for very specific and real reasons as are those against drugs (and I would argue the damage that drugs inflicts on our society is much more devastating than downloading). I would also argue that the damage by both is a result of the archaic system that oversees them (and certainly does zilch zero in terms of fixing any of the complex problems/questions involved), my point being we all make justifications and create reasoning for why we partake in damaging industry and hopefully we all do our best to limit the damage as much as possible when we partake.
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thunderroad
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Post by thunderroad on Dec 2, 2010 16:27:27 GMT -8
Also, the reviews are fantastic and definitely a highlight of each morning for me.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Dec 2, 2010 16:32:12 GMT -8
Yeah, I knew as I typed it that the 'common fucking criminals' bit was taking it too far. I'll even admit to 'illegally' downloading albums which I have purchased on vinyl which don't come with a download code as well as albums which I have owned in the past which I have either lost or have been stolen. It's all one big gray area. If I get burly about it or if I delineate my argument with broad strokes, my intention isn't to declare myself the King of the High Road but to yank the leash of the people who don't spend any time thinking about it at all.
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Post by thunderroad on Dec 2, 2010 17:22:32 GMT -8
^^^
Your clear and strong gifts of wit, writing, wisdom and charm will undoubtedly be the best weapons to wield in your downloading cause/education to the kids here opposed to the anger. But I get it, my strong passions for certain causes definitely get muddled by constant frustrations and stupidity brought on by those who oppose or are too ignorant to even comprehend their part in facilitating various ongoing idiocies.
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Post by Pea on Dec 2, 2010 17:40:51 GMT -8
What are YOU? Besides humorless and belligerent? By day I'm in shipping/receiving and parts delivery for an auto dealership. By night and weekend I'm time building hours toward my commercial pilot certificate and starting on my certified ground instructor certificate. I'm obsessed with craft beer, soccer, and music (duh). That's me in a nutshell.
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Post by Geoff on Dec 2, 2010 18:55:50 GMT -8
I'm the baby gotta love me
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Post by wolfhat on Dec 2, 2010 23:50:40 GMT -8
I'm the baby gotta love me I love that you can play that card. Jealous, really.
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Post by Pea on Dec 4, 2010 11:56:04 GMT -8
Finally getting around to listening to Brian Eno's "Small Craft On A Milk Sea" and I'm absolutely floored so far. With a few more listens this very well may penetrate into my top 10 for the year.
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Post by thedude on Dec 5, 2010 17:01:44 GMT -8
1) The National - High Violet 2) Local Natives - Gorilla Manor 3) Sufjan Stevens - Age of Adz 4) Wavves - King of the Beach 5) Menomena - Mines 6) The Tallest Man on Earth - The Wild Hunt 7) Surfer Blood - Astro Coast 8) Yeasayer - Odd Blood 9) Beach House - Teen Dream 10) The Walkmen - Lisbon 11) Best Coast - Crazy For You 12) Titus Andronicus - The Monitor 13) Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest 14) Wolf Parade - Expo 86 15) Fang Island - Fang Island
Yeah, yeah. Pitchfork shmitchfork, downloads shmownloads. I don't care. I've paid money to see half the bands on this list this year (some of them more than once), and would pay to see the rest given half the chance (Especially Sufjan! Tour the UK damnit!)
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Post by know ID yuh on Dec 9, 2010 17:59:27 GMT -8
My favorites of 2010 (in no particular order): Das Racist - Shut Up, DudeDo you like this album better than Sit Down, Man, or is it the only one of the two you own? I ask because Sit Down, Man is one of my favorite albums of the year. They are pretty similar though, so I'm guessing the album you hear first would probably be the one you like the best. I didn't know Shut Up, Dude existed until reading your post above. Pretty ambitious for those guys to put out two albums in one year, each well over an hour in length.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Dec 9, 2010 18:04:17 GMT -8
I put 'Shut Up, Dude' because I've been listening to the material from 'Sit Down, Man' since late 2009. I forgot that they didn't officially sequence and release it until the beginning of this year, I guess.
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Post by Lump on Dec 11, 2010 9:35:59 GMT -8
When this was first mentioned, I totally thought you guys were kidding about them having only two albums both called "Sit Down, Man" and "Shut Up, Dude"
I might have to listen to them now just based on the album titles.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Dec 11, 2010 11:42:42 GMT -8
Alexis Gideon had two mixtapes this year as well: "Move Your Shit, Man" and "Move Your Song, Madame". Must be a thing.
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Post by Drew on Dec 13, 2010 14:39:55 GMT -8
I just read this whole conversation and found it fascinating (in parts). And since it's taken an articulate turn I don't mind bringing it up again.
HG, out of curiosity, how much money do you spend on music per month?
And I think your point about the act of purchasing music making your decisions more important is salient. When you can download and listen to, I don't know, 500 albums every year, you're probably not spending a lot of time with any of them, maybe a few. When you buy an album, you're more willing to spend more time with it because you don't want to have wasted your money.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Dec 13, 2010 14:56:19 GMT -8
Since I'm unemployed at the moment, I spend between $30-$50 on music each month; maybe a little more if there's a rash of new releases that I can't live without. That's not counting concert tickets or merch. It's not as much as I'd like or am used to, and it cuts down on my ability to gamble $20 on an LP based on clever titles, artwork or just blind enthusiasm for something new.
I never bring home more than one album at a time. If something doesn't strike me at first, I'll spin it six or seven times, back to back to back. I allow myself time to run the album front to back without any interruptions as many times as possible. If it is something particularly complex, I'll perform the ritual of laying my head down next to my Bose stereo, killing the lights, closing my eyes and smoking a joint.
I'm honestly predisposed to like EVERYTHING, and only when something is obviously lazy, derivative or stupid do I dismiss it. If my first impression of something is that it is boring, I devote extra time to it to try to find out what's really going on.
You ABSOLUTELY MUST hear a record a dozen times or more before you begin to understand it. I don't believe that is an opinion, I believe it is fact. Something I say often is that I don't understand why people like to be challenged by books and movies but have no patience for difficult music. People, especially people with a love for overproduced three-minute clumps of pop music (Phoenix being a prime example; I can't stand Phoenix), are choosing picture books over novels. Development of themes, conflict and resolution... These things are an important part of appreciating music that so many people overlook.
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Post by know ID yuh on Dec 13, 2010 19:13:09 GMT -8
Since I'm unemployed at the moment, I spend between $30-$50 on music each month; maybe a little more if there's a rash of new releases that I can't live without. That's not counting concert tickets or merch. It's not as much as I'd like or am used to, and it cuts down on my ability to gamble $20 on an LP based on clever titles, artwork or just blind enthusiasm for something new. I never bring home more than one album at a time. If something doesn't strike me at first, I'll spin it six or seven times, back to back to back. I allow myself time to run the album front to back without any interruptions as many times as possible. If it is something particularly complex, I'll perform the ritual of laying my head down next to my Bose stereo, killing the lights, closing my eyes and smoking a joint. I'm honestly predisposed to like EVERYTHING, and only when something is obviously lazy, derivative or stupid do I dismiss it. If my first impression of something is that it is boring, I devote extra time to it to try to find out what's really going on. You ABSOLUTELY MUST hear a record a dozen times or more before you begin to understand it. I don't believe that is an opinion, I believe it is fact. Something I say often is that I don't understand why people like to be challenged by books and movies but have no patience for difficult music. People, especially people with a love for overproduced three-minute clumps of pop music (Phoenix being a prime example; I can't stand Phoenix), are choosing picture books over novels. Development of themes, conflict and resolution... These things are an important part of appreciating music that so many people overlook. I think you have to listen to an album thrice before you can make an intelligent opinion, and five times to really get it. If you listen to an album 12 times, it means you already like it, and are willing to give it more than five listens. I dislike Phoenix as well, but other than DCFC, they are the headliner I would be least surprised to see at Sasquatch 2011. MODIFY: Alabama, Arkansas, I sure love my ma and pa, not the way I do love you, HEY!
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Post by Pea on Dec 13, 2010 20:02:44 GMT -8
HG you should get a job as some sort of driver like myself. I spend a solid 4-5 hours on the road every day and get in some serious quality music listening time. There are dozens of albums that I consider some of my all-time favorites that I would never have allowed myself the time to appreciate without having as much availability to let them grow on me.
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Post by Drew on Dec 13, 2010 20:14:20 GMT -8
HG you should get a job as some sort of driver like myself. I spend a solid 4-5 hours on the road every day and get in some serious quality music listening time. There are dozens of albums that I consider some of my all-time favorites that I would never have allowed myself the time to appreciate without having as much availability to let them grow on me. Agreed, car-listening time is valuable. I listen at work as well, but those are kind of to see if an album is worth devoting a lot of time to. If I think it might be, it gets the headphones, darkness treatment. That's when you can tell if it's got chops. I'll dismiss a lot of albums after one listen, but based on reviews or friends or the opportunity to see them live, come back to it. But it's sad the amount of albums I listen to once and don't really go back to.
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