ArcadeFireVEVO Join the crowd at Madison Square Garden in New York City at 10 p.m. (ET) tonight for Arcade Fire live in concert. The global webcast will be directed by Terry Gilliam, who will also host a pre-show Q&A.
Post by Horned Gramma on Aug 5, 2010 18:40:28 GMT -8
One might say that characters who wear silly clothes and successfully trick other people into believing they are very good at what they do is at the heart of every one of Gilliam's films.
Think about it. Baron Munchausen, King Arthur, Robin Williams in the Fisher King and Brad Pitt in 12 Monkeys, the Brothers Grimm, his death wish/obsession with Don Quixote... And Sam Lowry, the ultimate example of what happens when the facade slips... Unless this performance involves men wearing ceramic baby masks holding scalpels I'll feel like it lacks honesty.
Post by Friendly Destroyer on Aug 6, 2010 6:37:41 GMT -8
Ha Ha that's so true about Gilliam movies, same people who's mind's are still recovering from The Usual Suspects think Gilliam is DEEP. I'll admit some of it is entertaining, but if you tell me your favorite movie is Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas I will immediately presume if I were to tell you Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, you would explode.
Post by Friendly Destroyer on Aug 6, 2010 6:47:20 GMT -8
Calling out Gilliam is dead on, but the Arcade Fire are great! While Gilliam would still fail to stir a single emotion in a movie about genocide, Arcade Fire somehow are able to incorporrate all the bombast, theatrics (switching instruments, stage antics), and crowd participation while still making me feel something/want more/give a shit.
Post by Horned Gramma on Aug 6, 2010 7:29:47 GMT -8
Terry Gilliam is the shit and he's wasting his time, but I'm sure it is to finance The Man Who Killed Don Quixote so I don't care.
Tideland and then Parnassus were both incredible, I forgive him for a lot of the last ten years. I like about 1/4 of The Suburbs, but not nearly enough to forgive Arcade Fire for Neon Bible or Funeral. They'll have to try much harder than that.
'Theatrics' and 'stage antics' = pretentious bullshit. I wish fucking of Montreal would give up the stupid costumes and the mimes and just play the damn songs again. The Decemberists were so much more charming when they left something to the imagination, but their problem started with their lyrics around the time of Picaresque. And Meloy's ego. And his tendency to talk like a goddamn pirate onstage.
Post by Friendly Destroyer on Aug 6, 2010 7:45:21 GMT -8
It's fine if you don't like Arcade Fire, but I don't see how they can actually be perceived as more pretentious than say The Fiery Furnaces, Sleigh Bells, any DOOM project or Mice Parade. I'm no knockin' any of those bands, but it seems like you have more resentment to thier mainstream appeal
Post by Horned Gramma on Aug 6, 2010 7:58:58 GMT -8
Mostly I just don't like their music. I hate the affected vocal thing. Dude sounds like Conor Oberst. I don't have a problem with mainstream appeal (unless it compromises what makes a band great -- which is why I cited of Montreal and the Decemberists).
There's never a moment where I don't know exactly where the song is going. As a reference point, I feel the same way about Bruce Springsteen. Completely uninteresting to my ears.
Fiery Furnaces are pretentious as hell, but there's a certain kind of mania they have that comes from INSIDE the music and not from acting like a clown. of Montreal USED to be that way, until Barnes started writing and recording all the albums himself. Instead of all the vaudeville pianos and tubas and kazoos, there's the fucking WALL OF SOUND. It all sounds the same after a while.
DOOM's the shit. He smokes way reefer and watches cartoons. That's why I like DOOM.
Post by Friendly Destroyer on Aug 6, 2010 8:05:42 GMT -8
Hate the Arcade Fire, but just leave the Boss out of this man!!!!!
"Fiery Furnaces are pretentious as hell, but there's a certain kind of mania they have that comes from INSIDE the music and not from acting like a clown. of Montreal USED to be that way, until Barnes started writing and recording all the albums himself. Instead of all the vaudeville pianos and tubas and kazoos, there's the fucking WALL OF SOUND. It all sounds the same after a while."
I hear what you're saying, but to me it all ends up coming to a "of Montreal" ending anyway cuz there was nothing but fluff to begin with. Still fun and good to listen to, but I see the "mania" as an act and nothing more.