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Post by know ID yuh on Nov 17, 2010 22:39:52 GMT -8
You said Kanye should be a role model because of his celebrity status. Kanye is a rapper. I know you are not saying 100% of rappers have to be role models, but in this specific example, you are saying Kanye, the rapper, should. Having a lot of Kanye's lyrics memorized, I never thought, "you know, I want my daughter to date someone like Kanye. He seems like he has really solid values." Thus me thinking the correlation is funny. Are you kidding? I want my daughters to learn the value of not being a gold digger... which is what I think the message of that song was. What? Like I'm going to think someone who based their username off a Modest Mouse album will understand the meaning of a Kanye West track? You are sleepwalking through the allnight diner there I8. Being the resident Kanye expert, I am more than willing to skool you to the real meaning of "Gold Digger." You can be a celebrity football player driving a Hyundai, and still bag a chick who fucked with Usher. Don't underestimate the sex appeal of a 10 year warranty.
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Post by interstateeight on Nov 18, 2010 13:25:54 GMT -8
You had me for like three sentences.
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Post by Pea on Nov 22, 2010 7:48:20 GMT -8
i read that last night. that once and for all drove the final nail of credibility into pitchforks coffin. i listened to the album and it's a giant pile of shit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2010 9:40:01 GMT -8
i read that last night. that once and for all drove the final nail of credibility into pitchforks coffin. i listened to the album and it's a giant pile of shit. First-world problems: Deciding whether to respond to this with a snarky and assholish original thought, a HATERS GON' HATE meme, a U MAD meme, a GET OUT meme...
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Post by interstateeight on Nov 22, 2010 9:44:23 GMT -8
Who the fuck is reading Pitchfork reviews?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2010 9:46:02 GMT -8
Who the fuck is reading Pitchfork reviews? Hey, what can I say? I am terrible. Really, truly terrible.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Nov 22, 2010 9:47:09 GMT -8
Pitchfork goes back and changes their review scores of albums once they are regarded as classics. 10.0 means essentially nothing.
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Post by interstateeight on Nov 22, 2010 10:09:52 GMT -8
Pitchfork goes back and changes their review scores of albums once they are regarded as classics. 10.0 means essentially nothing. BINGO. Just went to check one my favorite bit of revisionist history: In the Aeroplane Over the Sea got an 8.7 in 1998 and a 10.0 in 2005.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2010 10:15:14 GMT -8
Pitchfork goes back and changes their review scores of albums once they are regarded as classics. 10.0 means essentially nothing. This wasn't a re-release, though. They almost never give 10s on first releases. Besides, it's not just Pitchfork: every single fucking review (hyperlinks ahoy) of this album have been overwhelmingly positive. Even Chris Weingarten (link), who is essentially the east coast amalgam of interstate and hornedgramma, loved this album. This isn't a Pitchfork thing. This is a music media establishment thing.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Nov 22, 2010 10:21:42 GMT -8
I haven't heard it yet, I'm not contesting the validity of positive reviews. I'm saying that Pitchfork is the grandaddy of hipster cred ass-covering and people who point to their reviews as being definitive need to listen to more music.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2010 10:24:44 GMT -8
Fine, fine. I admittedly rely on pitchfork pretty heavily, though, probably at the expense of a few genres I'd be listening to if I got recommendations from another source. Still fucking love BTMI and the likes, though, and some bands I'll buy regardless of the pitchfork rating.
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Post by know ID yuh on Nov 22, 2010 10:31:18 GMT -8
Pitchfork goes back and changes their review scores of albums once they are regarded as classics. 10.0 means essentially nothing. BINGO. Just went to check one my favorite bit of revisionist history: In the Aeroplane Over the Sea got an 8.7 in 1998 and a 10.0 in 2005. Wait, what? Pitchfork gives a different score for re-releases. They don't actually change scores? I believe this is the first non-reissue 10.0 since Source Tags & Codes in 2002? That's kind of funny.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Nov 22, 2010 10:34:22 GMT -8
What re-issue of 'Aeroplane' are we talking about? As far as I know, it has never gone out of print, nor have the artwork and tracklist ever changed. That album has existed as-is since the day it landed. They changed the score, and eliminated the original review.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2010 10:42:47 GMT -8
What re-issue of 'Aeroplane' are we talking about? As far as I know, it has never gone out of print, nor have the artwork and tracklist ever changed. That album has existed as-is since the day it landed. They changed the score, and eliminated the original review. But they mention it's a re-review in that review. (e: the review says it was re-issued, so i dunno). Also when did you change your name, also the last first-release 10 was Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
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Post by Horned Gramma on Nov 22, 2010 10:47:56 GMT -8
Why would Pitchfork feel the need to re-review an album that was only five years old? SO THEY COULD CHANGE THEIR RATING.
I changed my name a few minutes ago when I heard they were cross-breeding I8 and myself for the purposes of writing acerbic record reviews.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Nov 22, 2010 10:48:22 GMT -8
Pitchfork does go back and change both scores and reviews for certain albums that gain prominency over time, they also give different scores/reviews to re-issues (cuz they usually are re-issued with other stuff to review, right.) -There is not a AOTS re-issue -Pitchfork is our generation's Moses -Moses was crazy, though his Commandments were a perfect 10 (kill me later!) -Pitchfork gives any re-issue 9.0-10.0 even if it is Barry Manelow, because sometimes the hippest thing is to be unhip -Kanye reviews for Pitchfork.
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Post by know ID yuh on Nov 22, 2010 10:49:03 GMT -8
I didn't realize Aeroplane wasn't a re-issue, I like pleasure spiked with pain. I just recall the only recent 10.0s on Pitckfork being re-issues, so this is news to me. I need to buy tighter pants.
Changing scores is a bit like changing usernames, I guess.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Nov 22, 2010 10:50:05 GMT -8
Changing scores is a bit like changing usernames, I guess. Hook-shot at the buzzer!! Ohhh, it's no good.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Nov 22, 2010 11:14:06 GMT -8
By the way, did you know the Pitchfork overlords were phoned in the miidle of the night on their top secret Pitchfork vintage hamburger phones and given the message "Sirs, we have a 10, it showed up this morning, we need you here immediately". After much thought and debate over who had the best "I had to rush here in the middle of the night" costume on, they reviewed the review. Someone shouted, "this is like Arctic Monkeys all over again!!!", another cried, "I've contacted our Chicago offices and they're seeing the same thing!". The overlords always knew this day was coming, but how do you ever prepare for a day like this. By the time they heard "pussy and religion is all I need", there was little more they could do than simultaniously engage their Thurston Moore penise shaped USB's and upload the web site. Gentleman, from here on out, it all changes....
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