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Post by chubbystackz on Feb 2, 2018 11:35:08 GMT -8
Something I like about these boards that I can't seem to get from IRL people is not being talked to like your stupid when you share a mock lineup prediction... #rantover
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Post by jefftrap 3.33 on Feb 2, 2018 12:46:43 GMT -8
The Killers / Third Eye Blind / 311
That’s it.
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Post by stingray on Feb 2, 2018 13:41:32 GMT -8
Am I the only one that thinks St. Vincent is going to be billed on the top line and play a headliner slot? I mean, Squatch usually promotes one of Coachella's second line acts to headliner status, and this seems like her year.
But what makes this guessing game all the more confusing for me is that a lot of the names we're hearing rumours of or that seem likely all have played Sasquatch before in various slots - if Modest Mouse and Bon Iver both play, do they both headline? Is The War on Drugs the band that gets promoted to headliner instead of St. Vincent? Makes my head spin. Regardless:
Headliners: Bon Iver/Arctic Monkeys/St. Vincent Subheads: Modest Mouse/The War on Drugs/Lana Del Rey Late Night Bigfoot: Tyler the Creator, Explosions in the Sky, Tycho
Main Stage: Tash Sultana, Gang of Youths, Halsey, Logic, Anderson PAAK, Broken Social Scene, Ty Segall and the Freedom Band Bigfoot: BROCKHAMPTON, Angel Olsen, Slowdive, Waxahatchee, King Krule, Sheer Mag, Perfume Genius Yeti: Nick Hakim, Chastity Belt, Mitski, Kevin Morby, (Sandy) Alex G, Noname, serpentwithfeet Banana Shack: Oneohtrix Point Never, Tokimonsta, Majid Jordan, Mount Kimbie, Washed Out, Daphni, Todd Terje (DJ set)
reads more like a wishlist than a prediction...oh well. see ya'll Monday
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Post by matt on Feb 2, 2018 13:45:54 GMT -8
Y'all, Modest Mouse isn't taking sub-headliner money when they've been a headliner before. So if they're making headliner money to not headline, that's a really inefficient use of funds by Live Nation, unless they think it's an act who really moves the needle on attendance, like, possibly... Halsey. (Disclaimer: I would not put it past Live Nation to make a bad business decision.)
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Post by Professor Pancakes on Feb 2, 2018 13:53:19 GMT -8
Y'all, Modest Mouse isn't taking sub-headliner money when they've been a headliner before. So if they're making headliner money to not headline, that's a really inefficient use of funds by Live Nation, unless they think it's an act who really moves the needle on attendance, like, possibly... Halsey. (Disclaimer: I would not put it past Live Nation to make a bad business decision.) This was what started me down the path of thinking they might go with the dual headliners. I know it's a long shot and I don't even know how they would schedule them, but it's the only thing that makes sense to me if we're really considering Modest Mouse to be likely. I know they're local and they are pretty great, but I just can't see them taking a headliner spot to themselves when they just played in 2015 and haven't put out any new music since.
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Post by matt on Feb 2, 2018 13:59:15 GMT -8
This was what started me down the path of thinking they might go with the dual headliners. I know it's a long shot and I don't even know how they would schedule them, but it's the only thing that makes sense to me if we're really considering Modest Mouse to be likely. I know they're local and they are pretty great, but I just can't see them taking a headliner spot to themselves when they just played in 2015 and haven't put out any new music since. They headlined Sasquatch 2011 even though We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank was released March 2007 and they had played Sasquatch 2008. ( No One's First, and You're Next did come out in 2009, but that's, like, an EP, and they only played 2 songs from it at Sasquatch 2011, so it's not like it was part of a promotional cycle.) Of course, there is precedent for a night with "co-headliners": Jane's Addiction and Nine Inch Nails (who were touring together at the time) co-headlined in 2009 and Massive Attack and Pavement co-headlined in 2010. I think Pavement was only billed as a co-headliner to appease Malkmus, but whatever. I miss the old days.
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Post by Geoff on Feb 2, 2018 14:29:49 GMT -8
Macklemore
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Post by Han-Tyumi on Feb 2, 2018 14:36:35 GMT -8
I do like St. Vincent on the top line.
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Post by stingray on Feb 2, 2018 14:59:28 GMT -8
This was what started me down the path of thinking they might go with the dual headliners. I know it's a long shot and I don't even know how they would schedule them, but it's the only thing that makes sense to me if we're really considering Modest Mouse to be likely. I know they're local and they are pretty great, but I just can't see them taking a headliner spot to themselves when they just played in 2015 and haven't put out any new music since. They headlined Sasquatch 2011 even though We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank was released March 2007 and they had played Sasquatch 2008. ( No One's First, and You're Next did come out in 2009, but that's, like, an EP, and they only played 2 songs from it at Sasquatch 2011, so it's not like it was part of a promotional cycle.) Of course, there is precedent for a night with "co-headliners": Jane's Addiction and Nine Inch Nails (who were touring together at the time) co-headlined in 2009 and Massive Attack and Pavement co-headlined in 2010. I think Pavement was only billed as a co-headliner to appease Malkmus, but whatever. I miss the old days. I hear ya. Honestly I'm a big enough MM fan that I wouldn't be mad if they were the first name on the bill, it's just...odd to me that they'd play what would amount to the exact same time and place as their 2015 set. Same with the National - although at least they're actually touring a record. Side note: looking over the 2015/16 lineup posters again made me realize how stacked they both were. Makes me cautiously optimistic that last year was a bit of a blip and that no matter what, we'll be looking at something a bit more objectively solid come Monday.
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Post by Professor Pancakes on Feb 2, 2018 15:16:40 GMT -8
For the record, Hungry Troll "liked" my prediction and, as far as I can tell, nobody else's. So consider that a confirmation.
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Post by grundelwald on Feb 2, 2018 15:46:13 GMT -8
As much as I like St Vincent and Modest Mouse, they are simply not headliners in 2018. 21 Pilots and C-h-a-n-c-e the Rapper were selling out 20k arenas last year. There is no way Sasquatch puts someone like St Vincent or Modest Mouse in the top three when they are not even selling out venues a tenth that size ... I am sure Modest Mouse gets a boost in their booking fees due to legacy, but I'm also sure that they are in no position to be demanding headliner levels of payment right now. So far the only festival they are playing is #3 at Forecastle, a fest that usually books maybe one or two real headliners and then the other headliners would be subs at best at a Sasquatch-sized festival (ie Weezer, Alabama Shakes, etc). Modest Mouse probably gets a poop to the front of the subs list due to legacy and local appeal, but if they are actual headliners then Sasquatch made some big mistakes this year.
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Post by Geoff on Feb 2, 2018 16:08:26 GMT -8
As much as I like St Vincent and Modest Mouse, they are simply not headliners in 2018. 21 Pilots and C-h-a-n-c-e the Rapper were selling out 20k arenas last year. There is no way Sasquatch puts someone like St Vincent or Modest Mouse in the top three when they are not even selling out venues a tenth that size ... I am sure Modest Mouse gets a boost in their booking fees due to legacy, but I'm also sure that they are in no position to be demanding headliner levels of payment right now. So far the only festival they are playing is #3 at Forecastle, a fest that usually books maybe one or two real headliners and then the other headliners would be subs at best at a Sasquatch-sized festival (ie Weezer, Alabama Shakes, etc). Modest Mouse probably gets a poop to the front of the subs list due to legacy and local appeal, but if they are actual headliners then Sasquatch made some big mistakes this year. You seem to be forgetting that they headlined just 3 years ago on the same album cycle that they're on now. There's no reason to believe that they'd be downgraded in that amount of time.
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Post by mutt on Feb 2, 2018 16:27:41 GMT -8
Smashing Pumpkins / Bon Iver / Muse Portugal the Man / David Byrne / St Vincent Wolf Alice / Goldfrap / Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
...and Royal Blood for an even 10
I don't think any of these are impossible, so I'm playing a long shot here... and a wish list.
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Post by matt on Feb 2, 2018 16:40:22 GMT -8
Smashing Pumpkins / Bon Iver / Muse Portugal the Man / David Byrne / St Vincent Wolf Alice / Goldfrap / Black Rebel Motorcycle Club Smashing Pumpkins is a very bold prediction, especially considering we've yet to hear from them, and Sasquatch's lineup announcement is one business day away. Prepare for all of the congratulatory festival beers if correct! Portugal. the Man told Geoff no. David Byrne's local dates/availability have been discussed ad infinitum. Wolf Alice have no upcoming PNW dates, are free the month of May, and played tiny venues the last time through the PNW. (I hope they're on the bill too, but they wouldn't be on the third line.) BRMC play Showbox (Seattle) mid-February and have May open, so they're certainly possible, but, radius clauses, yah-dah yah-dah yah-dah. Royal Blood play 5/25 Henrietta, NY, 5/26 Boston Calling, and 5/28 Brooklyn Steel, so I'd say they're pretty unlikely for Sasquatch 5/27. Overall, I like where your head is at!
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Post by grundelwald on Feb 2, 2018 17:05:29 GMT -8
As much as I like St Vincent and Modest Mouse, they are simply not headliners in 2018. 21 Pilots and C-h-a-n-c-e the Rapper were selling out 20k arenas last year. There is no way Sasquatch puts someone like St Vincent or Modest Mouse in the top three when they are not even selling out venues a tenth that size ... I am sure Modest Mouse gets a boost in their booking fees due to legacy, but I'm also sure that they are in no position to be demanding headliner levels of payment right now. So far the only festival they are playing is #3 at Forecastle, a fest that usually books maybe one or two real headliners and then the other headliners would be subs at best at a Sasquatch-sized festival (ie Weezer, Alabama Shakes, etc). Modest Mouse probably gets a poop to the front of the subs list due to legacy and local appeal, but if they are actual headliners then Sasquatch made some big mistakes this year. You seem to be forgetting that they headlined just 3 years ago on the same album cycle that they're on now. There's no reason to believe that they'd be downgraded in that amount of time. Lots of reasons to assume they are downgraded... 2015 they were releasing a comeback album after 8 years. As you said, they are on the same album cycle now and that album was moderately successful at best. There’d have to be a good reason for a band to NOT be downgraded with no new material. It’s not like 21 Pilots who were playing the same album cycle but blew up in popularity between their Sasquatch appearances. Again, I already have the most obvious reason they would be downgraded. Look at the venues Modest Mouse are playing now compared to 2015. 2015 in the Bay Area they played Shoreline Amphitheater, a 22k capacity venue. In 2018 they are playing the Fox Theater, a 2,800 capacity venue. That’s not even taking into account their 2015 Sasquatch itself, which i’d say wasn’t really a great success in terms of attendance and performance.
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Post by Pea on Feb 2, 2018 17:49:57 GMT -8
Nine Inch Nails has surprisingly taken a handful of sub-headlining slots this year. If they can be downgraded then Modest Mouse absolutely can be as well. Kind of like Macklemore though, if there's one market that will continue to give them a top spot it would probably be this one. Let's not forget that Sasquatch has historically booked interesting and sometimes head-scratching headliners.
Slipknot/Darude/Tech N9ne confirmed
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Post by Cysquatch on Feb 2, 2018 18:20:13 GMT -8
Modest Mouse won't be subbing a PNW festival. They are a band that doesn't need to consistently put out new material to keep touring. They really jam and mix it up live.
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Post by mutt on Feb 2, 2018 18:22:13 GMT -8
This was brought up in the other thread, then immediately buried by shitposting, Feel free to edit or change your guesses as many times as you like, but try to keep the shitposting to a minimum. Hey Professor Mr. Reverend Administrator Pancakes, are you gonna enforce your rules, or what? What is shitposting in multiple threads called? Polymorphic posting with a feculant bias.
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Post by Professor Pancakes on Feb 2, 2018 18:25:02 GMT -8
This was brought up in the other thread, then immediately buried by shitposting, Feel free to edit or change your guesses as many times as you like, but try to keep the shitposting to a minimum. Hey Professor Mr. Reverend Administrator Pancakes, are you gonna enforce your rules, or what? What is shitposting in multiple threads called? Polymorphic posting with a feculant bias. This is minimal shitposting. I’ll allow it.
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Post by rimjobflashmob on Feb 2, 2018 18:41:51 GMT -8
Nine Inch Nails has surprisingly taken a handful of sub-headlining slots this year. If they can be downgraded then Modest Mouse absolutely can be as well. Kind of like Macklemore though, if there's one market that will continue to give them a top spot it would probably be this one. Let's not forget that Sasquatch has historically booked interesting and sometimes head-scratching headliners. Slipknot/Darude/Tech N9ne confirmed The year they toured with Jame’s Addiction they got downgraded at Sasquatch, but seeing as that was a special case (and they headlined DFN last year alongside Thom Yorke) I also kind of doubt they’d take that hit for us. That makes them unlikely for me, considering the original headliners last year were 21P/Frank/Chance up until mid-May.
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