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Post by sparta890 on Mar 31, 2016 11:14:48 GMT -8
I'm sure this has been answered before and I forget, but how long would it usually take for Sasquatch to sell out? Depends. 2013 sold out in about an hour, 2014 about two months, 2015 was still on sale right before the festival, not sure if it ever did sell out. So aside from the camping ticket sales, what other indications are there that point to this year being an extremely slow year for sasquatch? since in 2015 it didn't sell out. Was 2015 packed or with a low attendance? and don't take it as me being argumentative, this is my first year going to sasquatch is all.
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Post by davers on Mar 31, 2016 11:50:35 GMT -8
I would say the strongest indication is just the lack of buzz and overall sour response from the young people about the lineup. The crowd is overall younger than Coachella so if they failed to please the kids then that is a big chunk of their attendance. Throw in the terrible Canadian dollar (Canadians generally make up around 1/3 of Sasquatch from my totally non scientific guess) and the rise of Pemberton taking another bite out of the festival goers and I would say 60-70% sold is probably a good guess.
60-70% sold would be awesome from my perspective. Nice uncrowded sets. Lots of room in camping. No hour long waits to get into the venue (hopefully). I would be all about this.
I'm curious if they are considering releasing single day tickets when the schedule comes out. At this point I don't see much of a downside for them. There's probably a lot of people that would pay $100 to attend Sunday and see the Cure, but those people are probably less willing to pay $400 and camp with 22 year olds all weekend.
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Post by sparta890 on Mar 31, 2016 11:53:08 GMT -8
I would say the strongest indication is just the lack of buzz and overall sour response from the young people about the lineup. The crowd is overall younger than Coachella so if they failed to please the kids then that is a big chunk of their attendance. Throw in the terrible Canadian dollar (Canadians generally make up around 1/3 of Sasquatch from my totally non scientific guess) and the rise of Pemberton taking another bite out of the festival goers and I would say 60-70% sold is probably a good guess. 60-70% sold would be awesome from my perspective. Nice uncrowded sets. Lots of room in camping. No hour long waits to get into the venue (hopefully). I would be all about this. I'm curious if they are considering releasing single day tickets when the schedule comes out. At this point I don't see much of a downside for them. There's probably a lot of people that would pay $100 to attend Sunday and see the Cure, but those people are probably less willing to pay $400 and camp with 22 year olds all weekend. "No hour long waits to get into the venue" do you mean like camping grounds or just like in general there is a wait of an hour or so just to go see the bands?
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Post by davers on Mar 31, 2016 12:01:27 GMT -8
In the past I have waited almost an hour to get into the venue. The wait to get into camping is generally multiple hours but unless you are driving it's just a big drunk lineup party.
Getting into the venue is a total crapshoot. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen. For comparison I've waited up to 45 minutes to get into Coachella so it's not just a Sasquatch problem. Just seems to happen around 3pm right before a more popular act, and sometimes security seems to be more strict in the early days. One year people bumrushed the gates and maybe ~1000 people got in without being searched or scanned.
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Post by sparta890 on Mar 31, 2016 12:08:32 GMT -8
In the past I have waited almost an hour to get into the venue. The wait to get into camping is generally multiple hours but unless you are driving it's just a big drunk lineup party. Getting into the venue is a total crapshoot. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen. For comparison I've waited up to 45 minutes to get into Coachella so it's not just a Sasquatch problem. Just seems to happen around 3pm right before a more popular act, and sometimes security seems to be more strict in the early days. One year people bumrushed the gates and maybe ~1000 people got in without being searched or scanned. Sweeet on the drunk lineup party. Are there any bad spots for camping? too far away? How long is the walk usually? At bonnaroo, if you got in late, you'd basically end up on the other side of the world for camping. Thanks for the info davers!
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Post by Shleeves on Mar 31, 2016 12:17:22 GMT -8
Yeah the good ol' 3pm bottleneck! There is a right and a wrong way to prepare for this. DO: bring an unopened water bottle and see how hard it is to not unconciously open whilst waiting in line. Bring some alcohol for the wait. DON'T: Bring a bunch of stupid shit you don't need. They will take whatever bullshit you don't hide. If you have a bunch of shit in your bag it won't just blend in with your other shit they will tear it up, no selfie sticks, no totems, no go pros, etc. You will have to walk your miserable ass back to camp to put away said shit or throw it in the garbage. The main point is too many people last year brought their entire lives with them into the festival each day and people without bags shouldn't have to wait for you when you try to sneak in a half gallon piss poorly. If you're gonna sneak, sneak well and bring the majority of your "items" in on the first day and buy a locker. I thought security was always lax first two days tho, then more thorough the last days. If you don't want to wait however go into the venue an hour or two earlier.
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Post by sparta890 on Mar 31, 2016 12:20:11 GMT -8
Yeah the good ol' 3pm bottleneck! There is a right and a wrong way to prepare for this. DO: bring an unopened water bottle and see how hard it is to not unconciously open whilst waiting in line. Bring some alcohol for the wait. DON'T: Bring a bunch of stupid shit you don't need. They will take whatever bullshit you don't hide. If you have a bunch of shit in your bag it won't just blend in with your other shit they will tear it up, no selfie sticks, no totems, no go pros, etc. You will have to walk your miserable ass back to camp to put away said shit or throw it in the garbage. The main point is too many people last year brought their entire lives with them into the festival each day and people without bags shouldn't have to wait for you when you try to sneak in a half gallon piss poorly. If you're gonna sneak, sneak well and bring the majority of your "items" in on the first day and buy a locker. I thought security was always lax first two days tho, then more thorough the last days. If you don't want to wait however go into the venue an hour or two earlier. Camelbaks are ok to bring in? of course empty.
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Post by Shleeves on Mar 31, 2016 12:25:51 GMT -8
Camelbacks are all good! And yup, empty. I bring one in every year so worth it!
They have an overflow camping area which I've heard is not great. And whatever you do avoid camping within 30 feet of the bathrooms/portapotty's
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Post by sparta890 on Mar 31, 2016 12:27:20 GMT -8
Are you guided by staff to a spot or is it kinda of a free for all? And guys, if there is a thread that has all the answers please feel free to hook it up with a link to it so I am not wasting thread space.
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Post by davers on Mar 31, 2016 12:42:02 GMT -8
You just get guided in to camping. You have zero say where you end up. It's kind of a big circle and they fill it up like slices of a pizza. The middle is where vendors and whatnot are. The walk from camping to the venue is 2 beers long, maybe 3 if you drink fast and are far away. DON'T: Bring a bunch of stupid shit you don't need. They will take whatever bullshit you don't hide. If you have a bunch of shit in your bag it won't just blend in with your other shit they will tear it up This totally depends. Since I'm bored at work I will tell some stories. A few years ago our camp neighbours gave us an extra case of beer since they were leaving right after the shows on the last day. We didn't really need it so we just shoved as many beers as we could into the pack. The girl couldn't really find them since the pack has a hidden pocket but she knew something was up when it weighed 14 pounds and had a blanket and a pair of pants in it. We said fine and each pulled one out and drank it off to the side and then went back. She found the pocket this time and started pulling them out and putting them in the confiscated bin. Meanwhile my friend is behind her pulling them out. I think we ended up with like 3 extra beers than what we started with. Another time a guy found beers in our pack and just looked at us and said "These need to be further down" and just shoved them back in. Once we had those binoculars that hold booze. Guy immediately took them and emptied them out as he was wise to us. He then said "It's ok, I'll let you keep the one tapped to your leg" Finally last year I managed to sneak in a 5 litre (over a gallon) bag of wine simply by putting it in the bottom of my bag. It's all about luck, but I have never seen anyone get in any trouble for getting caught with booze going in unless they were being ass holes. Also there's this thread if you want to find more info. But it's so slow around here I don't think most of us mind answering questions. sasquatchfest.proboards.com/thread/963/brasstaq-sasquatch-tips-read-first
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Post by mutt on Mar 31, 2016 12:44:52 GMT -8
District 9 can be likened unto a dart board. You enter at the double 3, and drive to the outer bulls-eye, where you turn into the inner 15 ring and get in line. From there, you wait for your line to go. When you go, you will follow your line leader to a road on the doubles ring, and then proceed to your designated section. Regular camping starts in section 11, and wraps around to section 2. Section 17 has some overflow camping, and sections 19, 7, 16, and 8 are for gold and premier. The farthest spot from the venue entrance is the double 18. You would be a little over a mile out from there. And all of district 9 has to walk to the bulls-eye before heading for the venue entrance, which is a left and low dart shot off the board.
My only Sasquatch was in 2014, and my spot was on the triple 14, on the hillside overlooking the main stage. Great spot except for the early morning sound checks.
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Post by sparta890 on Mar 31, 2016 12:54:34 GMT -8
Then in that case:
Can I walk around with a beer or two in my hand when going to the venue? I ask since on the website it says about not drinking on the roads or on public ground (?)
What time do you all usually go into camping grounds on Thursday?
Also a good place to get dry ice? In Seattle or near the festival. I looked at the thread you sent and the first two pages are about single day tickets haha.
I hear that it's usually nice weather but there have been several occasions of rain, wind, and thunder. Safe to say to bring a sweater, poncho and rain boots?
Food and beer prices? I'm planning on my daily budget now so this would be great info!
Thanks again!
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Post by Shleeves on Mar 31, 2016 12:56:42 GMT -8
This totally depends. Since I'm bored at work I will tell some stories. A few years ago our camp neighbours gave us an extra case of beer since they were leaving right after the shows on the last day. We didn't really need it so we just shoved as many beers as we could into the pack. The girl couldn't really find them since the pack has a hidden pocket but she knew something was up when it weighed 14 pounds and had a blanket and a pair of pants in it. We said fine and each pulled one out and drank it off to the side and then went back. She found the pocket this time and started pulling them out and putting them in the confiscated bin. Meanwhile my friend is behind her pulling them out. I think we ended up with like 3 extra beers than what we started with. Another time a guy found beers in our pack and just looked at us and said "These need to be further down" and just shoved them back in. Once we had those binoculars that hold booze. Guy immediately took them and emptied them out as he was wise to us. He then said "It's ok, I'll let you keep the one tapped to your leg" Finally last year I managed to sneak in a 5 litre (over a gallon) bag of wine simply by putting it in the bottom of my bag. It's all about luck, but I have never seen anyone get in any trouble for getting caught with booze going in unless they were being ass holes. This is 100% accurate! My binoculars were leaking and I luckily got them through. So it indeed goes both ways.
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Post by davers on Mar 31, 2016 13:44:32 GMT -8
Then in that case: Can I walk around with a beer or two in my hand when going to the venue? I ask since on the website it says about not drinking on the roads or on public ground (?) What time do you all usually go into camping grounds on Thursday? Also a good place to get dry ice? In Seattle or near the festival. I looked at the thread you sent and the first two pages are about single day tickets haha. I hear that it's usually nice weather but there have been several occasions of rain, wind, and thunder. Safe to say to bring a sweater, poncho and rain boots? Food and beer prices? I'm planning on my daily budget now so this would be great info! Thanks again! There is a "chug it or dump it" point when you leave the campground and start on the path. It is incredibly easy to get by this, just don't be openly holding a drink. Put all drinks in your pack or pocket. If you have an open on you can chug it or just slip it under your tee shirt or cape or whatever you are wearing. After that it's a free for all again. Generally arrive around 6pm because we are never as organized as we think we are. This usually results in setting up at dusk or even in the dark. No idea about dry ice. They sell regular ice. I know that thread is somewhat dated... Bring all the things if you have space. It will be shorts and tee shirt weather during the day and pretty damn cold at night. Long underwear and a winter coat probably wouldn't be a bad idea if you aren't good with cold. Rain boots are probably not necessary though, just comfy walking shoes. Don't do what I did my first year and not bring extra clothes in for the evening. You will freeze your ass off past 9pm, and the walk back to camp is prohibitively long. You only want to make that walk once a day. Food is terrible basically. Somethings around $12 for chicken strips and fries. Shitty personal pizza probably the same, also for shit noodles. As a general rule it's a last resort. Bringing a sandwich and some power bars or chips is a good idea. Beer is insanely expensive, like $12 for a tall can or something. You can bring it anywhere though, no beer gardens. Get yourself an of age wristband when you get in and drink the beer and booze you smuggle in. None of the security know what beer you can and can't buy in the festival. You can basically openly drink smuggled booze. Tape some whisky to your leg and make a bottle of whisky and Coke with the $5 bottle of Coke you can buy inside. Beers in hidden pockets in the backpack. He'll just your back pocket in your shorts can work. The more you have the less likely they find all of it. I have been to 6 sasquatches and bought less than 6 beers inside and I've been drunk basically the whole time. I can PM you more tricks when I get on an actual computer.
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Post by Shleeves on Mar 31, 2016 13:46:54 GMT -8
Then in that case: Can I walk around with a beer or two in my hand when going to the venue? I ask since on the website it says about not drinking on the roads or on public ground (?) What time do you all usually go into camping grounds on Thursday? Also a good place to get dry ice? In Seattle or near the festival. I looked at the thread you sent and the first two pages are about single day tickets haha. I hear that it's usually nice weather but there have been several occasions of rain, wind, and thunder. Safe to say to bring a sweater, poncho and rain boots? Food and beer prices? I'm planning on my daily budget now so this would be great info! Thanks again! From your campsite you can drink a beer past the bullseye and somewhere on the line in between 3 and 19 there is a checkpoint with garbage cans and camp workers but you can easily sneak an open beer past them and more. The rest of the walk is 3/4 of the total distance so it's nice to have a cold one or two with you. Well this is a Wildhorse thread so I don't think anyone is going into District 9 here, but I usually show up to D9 an hour or two before sunset or in the early evening. We always end up between 14 and 5 which I prefer because it faces the gorge and the venue and is slightly higher elevation I think. I'm wondering about dry ice myself as I've always wanted to bring it, but I remember reading about it somewhere in the bigger threads. Usually a Fred Meyers or Wal-Mart. The wind is always a sure thing, but I've never been there when it rained enough to condone rainboots. A poncho is one of those things that you might want and is light-weight enough to not make a difference packing, but I've personally never brought one. And I didn't want to break it to you but beer is like $18-$22 for a 6 pack in the District 9 general store and in the venue I think it's 9 or 10 a pop for draft beer. I think it's even more for imports. You usually buy one and say never again. The food inside the venue is hilariously terrible and overpriced but my fav is the chicken tenders with fries and I cover it in essential ketchups and mustards. I wanna say it's 7 or 8 bucks. But they have pizza, nachos, burgers too and they are scattered thru the whole venue in little wooden shacks. There was one 3rd party food vendor last year that wasn't affiliated with the gorge and it had pretty good food but it was priced higher than the others and had long lines all the time. They kept running out of food items. The food in district 9 however is amazing. Everything there is $5-$12 and include gyros, russian dumplings, burgers & fries (normal stuff) and a couple other things I can't remember but there is two distinct coffee stands. One has pretty shitty coffee and it has a really long line every morning and the other has coffee that is the pure shit and costs like $1 dollar, no line ever. Avoid both. & I highly recommend the russian dumplings.
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Post by sparta890 on Mar 31, 2016 13:51:34 GMT -8
Then in that case: Can I walk around with a beer or two in my hand when going to the venue? I ask since on the website it says about not drinking on the roads or on public ground (?) What time do you all usually go into camping grounds on Thursday? Also a good place to get dry ice? In Seattle or near the festival. I looked at the thread you sent and the first two pages are about single day tickets haha. I hear that it's usually nice weather but there have been several occasions of rain, wind, and thunder. Safe to say to bring a sweater, poncho and rain boots? Food and beer prices? I'm planning on my daily budget now so this would be great info! Thanks again! There is a "chug it or dump it" point when you leave the campground and start on the path. It is incredibly easy to get by this, just don't be openly holding a drink. Put all drinks in your pack or pocket. If you have an open on you can chug it or just slip it under your tee shirt or cape or whatever you are wearing. After that it's a free for all again. Generally arrive around 6pm because we are never as organized as we think we are. This usually results in setting up at dusk or even in the dark. No idea about dry ice. They sell regular ice. I know that thread is somewhat dated... Bring all the things if you have space. It will be shorts and tee shirt weather during the day and pretty damn cold at night. Long underwear and a winter coat probably wouldn't be a bad idea if you aren't good with cold. Rain boots are probably not necessary though, just comfy walking shoes. Don't do what I did my first year and not bring extra clothes in for the evening. You will freeze your ass off past 9pm, and the walk back to camp is prohibitively long. You only want to make that walk once a day. Food is terrible basically. Somethings around $12 for chicken strips and fries. Shitty personal pizza probably the same, also for shit noodles. As a general rule it's a last resort. Bringing a sandwich and some power bars or chips is a good idea. Beer is insanely expensive, like $12 for a tall can or something. You can bring it anywhere though, no beer gardens. Get yourself an of age wristband when you get in and drink the beer and booze you smuggle in. None of the security know what beer you can and can't buy in the festival. You can basically openly drink smuggled booze. Tape some whisky to your leg and make a bottle of whisky and Coke with the $5 bottle of Coke you can buy inside. Beers in hidden pockets in the backpack. He'll just your back pocket in your shorts can work. The more you have the less likely they find all of it. I have been to 6 sasquatches and bought less than 6 beers inside and I've been drunk basically the whole time. I can PM you more tricks when I get on an actual computer. Please do! A cool trick is if you have a lady friend or you are a lady (this is to everybody who reads this) there are flasks that look exactly like tampons that you can bring in. Much like those binoculars you had. I highly fucking doubt the security is that detailed in searching
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Post by Professor Pancakes on Mar 31, 2016 13:56:44 GMT -8
I read once that the Safeway in Moses Lake has dry ice, but I've never confirmed it myself.
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Post by weenie on Mar 31, 2016 15:39:24 GMT -8
The more you have the less likely they find all of it. Unless you're at CBC Music fest... Well this is a Wildhorse thread so I don't think anyone is going into District 9 here This is probably untrue. Every thread is every thread.
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Post by iwishihadaburger on Mar 31, 2016 16:19:16 GMT -8
Those soft-sided flasks are perfect, my bag has a semi-hidden compartment and I bring enough distracting but legal stuff that it's never been found. A bag of wine fits the bill. If you have a woman in your group, the bra area is very safe too. For smaller items, like a pipe, joints, pills, etc. just stuff it down your pants. Centered, though, in the crack or in the crotch. You'd have to be packing a lot to get noticed.
I've been every year since 2008 and I've never bought food or drinks in the venue, or even at the campground. A couple Clif bars, fruit, jerky, and water will fuel you better than the garbage they sell.
The security definitely steps up each day. The entrance line gets longer and they search more thoroughly. But if you get found out, it's easier to get back in a different lane and try again than it is it give up and walk back to camp. One time I accidentally left my Leatherman in my bag, but I hid it better and jumped back in line. Success!
As of last year, the big grocery store in Quincy sells dry ice. It's a popular area for outdoorsy stuff so it's actually easier to find than in a big city.
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Post by mutt on Mar 31, 2016 16:22:06 GMT -8
Dry ice is overrated. Once it sublimates, the cold is gone. If you freeze up some large containers of water, say 1 gallon milk jugs, and place them into your cooler, they will stay frozen for most of the weekend unless you leave your lid open. And the water in the jugs as it melts can be used for drinking, washing up, etc. Just be careful not to overfill the jugs - leave an inch or two of space at the top. Otherwise the expansion of the freezing water will loosen the cap.
Just another helpful insight into the physics of the ice problem.
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