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Post by nater on May 20, 2013 12:58:36 GMT -8
Did percolator ever get a ticket....?
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Post by wonk on May 20, 2013 13:00:32 GMT -8
wait... are people actually legitimately upset? ...... Saranater said she was offended.
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Post by nater on May 20, 2013 13:01:47 GMT -8
I find comparing scalping to rape generally offensive.
But if you've been paying any attention at all, you'd know I'm incapable of being offended.
I'm just more being a dick.
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Post by wonk on May 20, 2013 13:04:59 GMT -8
neither of us makes up the rules around here anyway I MADE THE RULE MUTHA FUCKA.
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Post by Horned Gramma on May 20, 2013 13:58:57 GMT -8
This is a true statement.
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Post by wonk on May 20, 2013 17:12:03 GMT -8
This wouldn't have been much of a discussion if people didn't assume the seller was trying to make only $2.50. It is just as likely that pass cost $310 in presale. We don't know if she was trying to make $2.50, $7.50-$12, or $40. All we know is she was charging over face, regardless of how much she paid, so she was banned.
Do those who think a $2.50 markup is cool think a $40 markup is also cool? Okay, $40 is too much, what about $20. $20 is okay, what about $30? $30 is okay, what about $35, $36, $37? Are you really going to say $37.43 is cool, but anyone charging $37.44 over face is a scumbag. It's impossible for even one person to define an absolute amount over face that is acceptable before it becomes scalping.
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Post by nater on May 20, 2013 17:27:54 GMT -8
Most of us understand shades of grey. That going 1km over the limit, while technically speeding, is nowhere near as bad as going 80 over. Sure, it's hard to say exactly where the line ever is... But most of us have pretty good judgement and don't need hard and fast, black and white rules. Because we are reasonable, critical thinking adults.
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Post by rüstü on May 20, 2013 17:44:10 GMT -8
Well put, nater!
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Post by wonk on May 20, 2013 17:49:19 GMT -8
Because we are reasonable, critical thinking adults. Yet you defend scalping on a board where scalping is strictly prohibited.
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Post by nater on May 20, 2013 17:53:45 GMT -8
I'm not defending scalping. I'm defending the intellectual abilities of those on this forum.
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Post by wonk on May 20, 2013 18:09:27 GMT -8
I'm not defending scalping. I'm defending the intellectual abilities of those on this forum. So you think moderators should allow scalping because people here are smart enough to f.igure out what is too much? This isn't a place to make money, that's why we don't allow spam either. If you want to make a profit, go to Craigslist (or Looneylist, or whatever they call it in Canada). This is a place where Sasquatch fans hook up other Sasquatch fans for what they paid. Just because you know a couple of people who think selling for $40 over face is cool, doesn't mean you are going to win this. It's face or fuck off.
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Post by nater on May 20, 2013 18:18:09 GMT -8
Nope. Didn't say that at all, did I?
I find the suggestion that 50 cents over is just as much scalping as 500 over to be a ridiculous argument. While I agree the moderators should set a rule and stick to it, I think this notion that we are incapable of critical thought to be preposterous. If your argument was "we choose face exactly so it's easy for mods" that's fine. But saying that we would be incapable of a reasonable understanding of true, shithead scalping versus rounding for laziness or convenience is ridiculous.
I fully support no scalping on this forum. I even support it being to the cent. I just think your argument as to why is dumb.
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Post by wonk on May 20, 2013 18:35:52 GMT -8
Nope. Didn't say that at all, did I? I find the suggestion that 50 cents over is just as much scalping as 500 over to be a ridiculous argument. While I agree the moderators should set a rule and stick to it, I think this notion that we are incapable of critical thought to be preposterous. If your argument was "we choose face exactly so it's easy for mods" that's fine. But saying that we would be incapable of a reasonable understanding of true, shithead scalping versus rounding for laziness or convenience is ridiculous. I fully support no scalping on this forum. I even support it being to the cent. I just think your argument as to why is dumb. Good luck turning this into "wonk thinks we're stupid." Challenging the critical thinking abilities of the board is something you made up. I'm saying scalping is not allowed.
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Post by nater on May 20, 2013 18:45:59 GMT -8
Well you've said a lot of things. But instead of copy and pasting quotes, I'm going to trust that the board is smart enough to read for themselves
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Post by fairowen on May 20, 2013 18:47:54 GMT -8
What I say doesn't matter, but scalping small amounts doesn't seem like a huge deal. In my mind it takes a little time to resell a ticket and rounding a couple bucks up shouldn't really be a problem. If i were a mod and some one posted for more then like 370 it seems like a problem, but for the most part it seems like the small stuff should slide. This is the exact reason adam got asked about dealing with how ruthless the board can be. We ban some one without notice at the first instance they do something they may not know is wrong.
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Post by emptyfox on May 20, 2013 18:52:41 GMT -8
I think the rules are pretty clear. Read the description of the forum for crying out loud. Anyway, to save us from any further bullshit a new thread has been created which clearly states the maximum dollar value that may be charged for a wristband here. As I said before, the poster in question may have gotten a warning from me instead of the ban, but I fully support HG's decision.
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Post by Professor Pancakes on May 20, 2013 18:54:44 GMT -8
I think the horse is dead. Can we stop beating it now? We, the moderators will define the maximum acceptable cost. Providing proof of purchase is prohibitive so I'd rather just say $337.50 USD is the most you can charge for a pass here, and you can not add the $10 shipping cost on top of that total. Once we've agreed I will add a sticky to the top of the tickets forum which we will then change when next years price is inevitably $15 higher. Finally, just a quick note; Mod decisions are not up for debate. This is not a democracy and it never has been. If you disagree with something one of us has done we are more than willing to discuss it, but please send us a PM instead of dragging it out on the forum. Thanks everyone. /thread.
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Post by nater on May 20, 2013 18:57:32 GMT -8
No. No one is posting in other threads and I'm bored.
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Post by Horned Gramma on May 20, 2013 18:57:51 GMT -8
HEY BITCHES I GOT TWO I GOT TWO OVER HEAH BEST OFFER TAKES 'EM
GET AT ME
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Post by emptyfox on May 20, 2013 18:58:18 GMT -8
The day HG got banned.
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