For the record I really like the hoopers when it's done right, just as I like certain light shows (the larger scale ones, anyway...poi and whatnot). The hand-to-face light shows aren't my thing, though. I'm sure it's hard to do it right but I doubt many people out there are doing it right. Plus, I think kids laying on the ground with their eyes rolled in the back of their head like the kid in that EDC video are just ridiculous. I really do want to see rocksteady's light show, though. Too bad he left.