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Post by Pea on Oct 9, 2012 18:15:25 GMT -8
^ Are you a legitimate new member? We haven't seen one of those since like, burrito.
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Post by Dr. Crane on Oct 9, 2012 18:23:54 GMT -8
That's a seriously wacky review. I love that album. Serio, the album rules. I am in disbelief that 'Paper Hearts' was specifically called out as a weak track. Right when I think I can actually get behind a Poochfuck review (Four Tet's Pink), too. Fuck them jokers.
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Post by wonk on Oct 9, 2012 18:29:13 GMT -8
^ Are you a legitimate new member? We haven't seen one of those since like, burrito. He mentioned purchasing an album in his second post. If he is legit new, he's lurked enough to know who to kiss up to.
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Post by Pea on Oct 9, 2012 18:29:17 GMT -8
It's an Ian Cohen review. What did you expect? The dude is a boob.
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Post by wonk on Oct 9, 2012 18:44:49 GMT -8
If you polled Ween Super-fans, "My Own Bare Hands" would be one of their least favorite songs. Who are you polling? That song is fucking rad. It scared the hell out of those nice Mormon kids that I told to go see Ween. I didn't poll any Ween fans. It was a hypothetic statement based on multiple observations. Yeah, that was uncharacteristically uninformed for a wonk post. There are Ween fans who disavow anything after Guava, and some of them might agree with you, but I don't know any of them. Anything that gets Deaner to step up the mic is automatically pretty high up on my list of Ween songs. This isn't new to anyone, but I don't smoke tons of drugs and zone out into what is happening on stage at concerts. I know people try their darndest to ignore the crowds, but I'm different, and I've mentioned it about 194 times. I'm always paying attention to what is happening around me, which allows me to accipurposely intercept security guards rushing to bust people smoking a J. I pay attention to the crowd almost as much as the stage. I hear what they're saying, I question why they are yelling about Facebook, I see what songs get them moving, and I see what songs people rush to the Pea Tank during. It's not always a ripping four minute solo that I remember two years later, it's a mix of seeing how people react to that solo that sticks with me. I'll never get emotional watching GYBE on youtube, but when I am standing around multiple people literally bawling, I got emotional. With that said, I've only seen Ween live four times in the last sixteen years, but I've seen them perform "Own Bare Hands" thrice. Each time it was one of my most anticipated tracks (I'm 25% bro after all), and each time I paid attention to what was going on around me. Don't blindly pull the "uninformed" card on me because you mistakenly think I'm making fun of one of your favorite bands.
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Post by Cbats on Oct 9, 2012 19:28:13 GMT -8
It's an Ian Cohen review. What did you expect? The dude is a boob. I love Ian Cohen. Even I don't agree with his reviews all the time, his negative reviews are always a fun read. He's the indie rock Roger Ebert.
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Post by StormyPinkness on Oct 9, 2012 19:45:15 GMT -8
Who are you polling? That song is fucking rad. It scared the hell out of those nice Mormon kids that I told to go see Ween. I didn't poll any Ween fans. It was a hypothetic statement based on multiple observations. That's not the Wonk I know. WHO IS TALKING SHIT I'LL CUT 'EM
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Post by Pea on Oct 9, 2012 19:45:24 GMT -8
wtf is a Pea Tank?
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 9, 2012 19:45:54 GMT -8
When I said 'uninformed', I meant only that your notion of Ween's fans opinion of certain songs didn't seem to be rooted in anything concrete. If that's your impression after standing in the middle of a Ween crowd when they played that song three times, that's saying something, but I generally consider half of any crowd that is attending a show by any band that was considered at any point to be a novelty band to be looky-lous. People waiting for TMBG to play 'Birdhouse in Your Soul' or for the Flaming Lips to play 'She Don't Use Jelly'. Even for a song off their last album, 'Bare Hands' is still a pretty deep cut. People didn't freak the fuck out when I saw Ween play 'The Argus', but that is still considered by a lot of diehards to be one of their greatest songs.
You also have to take into account that although you don't smoke tons of drugs and zone out into what's happening onstage, the vast majority of Ween fans do. Their physical reactions are going to be those of stoned, tripping, drunk people. The crowd at the Crystal show, for example -- in such a small venue, those in attendance will mostly be the faithful. Standing in awe while their minds are getting the boa constrictor treatment from a ten minute shred in the middle of 'Vooodoo Lady' is going to leave a large number of them standing slack-jawed in reverence and awe.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 9, 2012 19:47:00 GMT -8
It's an Ian Cohen review. What did you expect? The dude is a boob. I love Ian Cohen. Even I don't agree with his reviews all the time, his negative reviews are always a fun read. He's the indie rock Roger Ebert. Few things in life bring me more joy than reading a review written by Roger Ebert about a film he hates. Back before he got cynical and started hating every film, that is. His review of Rob Reiner's North is a thing of beauty.
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Post by Kalvor on Oct 9, 2012 20:09:00 GMT -8
^ Are you a legitimate new member? We haven't seen one of those since like, burrito. He mentioned purchasing an album in his second post. If he is legit new, he's lurked enough to know who to kiss up to. Or I'm a musician and know how awesome getting paid is, especially on a small market level like the one I play where I live.
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Post by Cbats on Oct 9, 2012 20:24:36 GMT -8
I love Ian Cohen. Even I don't agree with his reviews all the time, his negative reviews are always a fun read. He's the indie rock Roger Ebert. Few things in life bring me more joy than reading a review written by Roger Ebert about a film he hates. Back before he got cynical and started hating every film, that is. His review of Rob Reiner's North is a thing of beauty. Some of the stuff he hates is baffling (aka every horror movie in existence) but the man knows how to take down a movie like none other.
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Post by wonk on Oct 9, 2012 20:33:42 GMT -8
You also have to take into account that although you don't smoke tons of drugs and zone out into what's happening onstage, the vast majority of Ween fans do. Their physical reactions are going to be those of stoned, tripping, drunk people. The crowd at the Crystal show, for example -- in such a small venue, those in attendance will mostly be the faithful. Standing in awe while their minds are getting the boa constrictor treatment from a ten minute shred in the middle of 'Vooodoo Lady' is going to leave a large number of them standing slack-jawed in reverence and awe. I thought Voodoo Lady was one of the most memorable parts of the show, even though I quickly gave up my front and center spot to grab a beer because I'm not a huge fan of that song. While getting a beer, I was accosted by a guy who claimed to have been pre-funking with Ween prior to the show (and showed me a glittery VIP wrist band), and although it sort of sucked he was ruining that rad solo, I was really happy he was so happy. The crowd was going nuts. It was a completely a different vibe than "My Hands Bare," which a large portion of the crowd was generally disinterested in. Aside from my experiences live, I've mentioned how much I like "Hands My Own" several times to Ween fans (including yourself), and the reply has always been lukewarm. Gibbons is the only person I recall saying, "I love that song too." Maybe yours and Stormy's intolerance of objectifying women overruled the chance that you maybe told me in person you like the song. You two now claiming you love that shit is new and awkward to me, but only a 12% reason why I think Ween super-fans don't like their signature "Bro" song.
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Post by wonk on Oct 9, 2012 20:39:53 GMT -8
He mentioned purchasing an album in his second post. If he is legit new, he's lurked enough to know who to kiss up to. Or I'm a musician and know how awesome getting paid is, especially on a small market level like the one I play where I live. I hummed a Spice Girls song on a kazoo at a New Year's party recently, and although no one payed me for doing it, I get what you are saying.
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Post by Pea on Oct 9, 2012 20:44:24 GMT -8
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Post by wonk on Oct 9, 2012 20:49:32 GMT -8
You should know by now that every time I write more than a paragraph, I include at least one reference I think is funny, which most won't get. It's like "Where's Waldo."
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Post by Pea on Oct 9, 2012 20:52:36 GMT -8
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Post by StormyPinkness on Oct 9, 2012 21:45:53 GMT -8
I like the song "My Own Bare Hands." By Ween.
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Post by Dr. Crane on Oct 10, 2012 1:29:01 GMT -8
That's a fine chune.
Back on topic, I've been spinning a thick stack of quality 2012 LPs (and a few digis) lately and getting pretty damn stroked for even more to come:
Brian Eno Emeralds Streetlight Manifesto double-double album (one double disc from the band, and another pair of discs containing the same songs re-recorded by Kalnoky and his "acoustic trio" - can I get a FUCK YES, Geno and Lumps?) Tim Hecker & Daniel Lopatin (Oneohtrix Point Never) collaboration Melt-Banana (not yet confirmed for 2012 but they're close) Something else so cool that I forgot what it is
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Post by Pea on Oct 10, 2012 7:27:49 GMT -8
Isn't Brian Eno that guy that MGMT made famous?
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