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Post by StormyPinkness on Oct 4, 2012 15:40:20 GMT -8
Don't hate on the pop, man. Done well it is a thing of extreme beauty.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 4, 2012 15:46:08 GMT -8
This probably gets addressed later in the thread, but you DID give the early stuff a try right? That stuff's muh jammmm. Cherry Peel and Coquelicot and Gay Parade yooooo. The Gay Parade was cool but I honestly just don't care anymore. Whatever slight tendencies I ever had towards "pop" music (even if it's weird pop music) or whatever are making their way out the fuckin' window. Except the Beatles. Duh. Y'all gotta come around on that. It's important to be a well-rounded appreciator.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 4, 2012 15:48:29 GMT -8
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Post by Pea on Oct 4, 2012 15:48:43 GMT -8
Pop music fucking rules man.
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Post by Geoff on Oct 7, 2012 15:59:11 GMT -8
So Mickey Melchiondo aka Dean Ween just announced that he's been in the studio for the past few months working on a new album under a new project name. And I guess Josh Homme is producing it.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 7, 2012 16:34:18 GMT -8
Holy shit! Fuck Josh Homme, his band consists of the entire touring lineup for the last incarnation of Ween (minus Aaron). Not only that, he sounds REALLY EXCITED about this shit -- he who claims not to have listened to a single Ween record after it was released except The Mollusk. Plus look how fucking happy he looks. Look at that face, that face says 'Let Gener record some schmaltzy spoken-word shit, I'll be over here tearin' some shit up.'
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 7, 2012 16:35:23 GMT -8
I used the word 'shit' four times in that post. LONG LIVE WEEN.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 7, 2012 16:49:20 GMT -8
Hey Geno how are we gonna get you into the Aaron Freeman show next week?
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Post by Geoff on Oct 7, 2012 17:04:20 GMT -8
Hey Geno how are we gonna get you into the Aaron Freeman show next week? No clue. Probably not gonna happen.
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Post by wonk on Oct 7, 2012 20:25:14 GMT -8
Fact#1: Every musician automatically thinks whatever they are working on is the best shit ever.
Fact#2: Every musician apologizes for their creations no one likes by saying, "I was in a dark place in my life, but the next album is going to be off the hook."
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Post by Nadine Hurley on Oct 8, 2012 12:55:38 GMT -8
Not my favorite jam from the new album but the shots are pretty beautiful.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 8, 2012 13:06:45 GMT -8
Fact#1: Every musician automatically thinks whatever they are working on is the best shit ever. Not true of Deaner -- like I mentioned, he's said that he pretty much forgot about every Ween album immediately after it was released with the exception of The Mollusk. Everything from White Pepper on -- the arguably less-brown albums -- feel distinctly like Gener joints. I kinda think that Deaner was profoundly embarrassed by at least half of the tracks on Quebec and Cucaracha. I didn't get that he was apologizing for anything, and although a lot of Ween fans are lukewarm on Cucaracha, no apologies were ever forthcoming (nor should they have been -- Cucaracha kills). What I got from that article is that Deaner is dealing with being dumped by attempting to prove that he can do something amazing without Gener. Gener is an amazing songwriter, but he's not an amazing musician. Claude Coleman, Dave Dreiwitz, Glenn McLelland, Andrew Weiss -- all absolutely top shelf musicians. By taking the focus away from the Ween-ness of it all -- which even as a superfan I can admit started to feel pretty self-conscious around 2003 -- and placing it on the music itself, something distinctive and really fucking amazing is possible. I never had a lot of love for Moistboyz, and I thought Deaner was going to devote all of his energy to that after Ween broke up. Glad that's not the case.
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Post by Drew on Oct 8, 2012 13:18:22 GMT -8
In the Hunter Davies biography, the Beatles all talk about how they never really thought their albums were that good. They said that they usually had to write about half the album in the studio just because they didn't have enough material, and some stuff they just sort of schlocked together at the last minute, and those were always the ones the critics raved about. They also talk about how there was almost never any great hidden intention in their tracks, just cute turns of phrase, mostly meaningless, and they were always amused by the fans reading into their work.
As a sometimes writer, I can say that it's a hilarious feeling when someone reads these incredible laced nuances into your work that you never imagined. Asshole artists are the ones that buy into their own hype based on these things. The Beatles were not like that (at least most of them, ahemPaulahem, for most of their Beatles careers.) It sounds like Deaner is like them a little bit. For him to have that attitude, and now be really excited about something for the first time in a long time, makes me think that it is going to be fairly incredible. Either that or it'll be shit and we'll realize that he must have had horrible taste all along and made beautiful music against his own instincts, but I doubt that will be the case.
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Post by Drew on Oct 8, 2012 13:18:46 GMT -8
As you can tell I've been thinking a LOT about the Beatles lately. I'm watching the Anthology episodes on YouTube.
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Post by wonk on Oct 8, 2012 14:50:22 GMT -8
Fact#1: Every musician automatically thinks whatever they are working on is the best shit ever. Not true of Deaner -- like I mentioned, he's said that he pretty much forgot about every Ween album immediately after it was released with the exception of The Mollusk. Everything from White Pepper on -- the arguably less-brown albums -- feel distinctly like Gener joints. I kinda think that Deaner was profoundly embarrassed by at least half of the tracks on Quebec and Cucaracha. I didn't get that he was apologizing for anything, and although a lot of Ween fans are lukewarm on Cucaracha, no apologies were ever forthcoming (nor should they have been -- Cucaracha kills). What I got from that article is that Deaner is dealing with being dumped by attempting to prove that he can do something amazing without Gener. Gener is an amazing songwriter, but he's not an amazing musician. Claude Coleman, Dave Dreiwitz, Glenn McLelland, Andrew Weiss -- all absolutely top shelf musicians. By taking the focus away from the Ween-ness of it all -- which even as a superfan I can admit started to feel pretty self-conscious around 2003 -- and placing it on the music itself, something distinctive and really fucking amazing is possible. I never had a lot of love for Moistboyz, and I thought Deaner was going to devote all of his energy to that after Ween broke up. Glad that's not the case. Fact#2 wasn't referring to a Ween apology. The point is everyone says, "This shit is going to be amazing," then fast forward a year when no one likes it, THEN they apolgize and start plugging their next endeavor. Everyone does it. I'm not saying his new album won't be amazing, but believing it because the artist said so and smiled in a picture is faulty.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 8, 2012 14:54:04 GMT -8
I used the word 'amazing' four times in that post. LONG LIVE WEEN.
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Post by StormyPinkness on Oct 8, 2012 15:07:42 GMT -8
For him to have that attitude, and now be really excited about something for the first time in a long time, makes me think that it is going to be fairly incredible. Either that or it'll be shit and we'll realize that he must have had horrible taste all along and made beautiful music against his own instincts, but I doubt that will be the case. Naw, man. Naw. This face don't lie. I just gots to see Deaner shredding again.
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Post by Dr. Crane on Oct 8, 2012 22:42:54 GMT -8
As you can tell I've been thinking a LOT about the Beatles lately. Are you going to come to our party and be our Ringo or what?
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Post by Dr. Crane on Oct 8, 2012 22:51:22 GMT -8
I didn't want to say anything when the issue was sensitive, but I am all for seeing that fucking epic band from Sasquatch that was Ween sans Gener if he wants to leave 'em behind and go fart around. Deaner is cooler anyways. I knew this to be true when he stared into my eyes and called me his cock professor.
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Post by wonk on Oct 8, 2012 22:56:26 GMT -8
Deaner is cooler anyways. I knew this to be true when he stared into my eyes and called me his cock professor. In before Ween Super-fans call you a hack.
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