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Post by emptyfox on Mar 14, 2013 22:59:27 GMT -8
Ya dude, regardless of whether he's important to you (drew/mr. dad rock), he is clearly very important to a lot of people, thus making him important. You also can't deny his ability on drums, he's a more than passable frontman and has been a collaborator/producer on tons of other projects.
I think he might be important to the musical landscape of the last 20 years. Just maybe.
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Post by Pea on Mar 14, 2013 22:59:57 GMT -8
I'm not getting into this right before I go to bed, but don't confuse most important musician with best musician. I already said I don't like his music, but I recognize the incredible story of his career, the icon he has become, and the influence he's had on millions of people. After watching his Sound City Players documentary I had no doubt left in my mind.
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Post by Drew on Mar 15, 2013 6:22:04 GMT -8
I usually stay out of these debates, but for some reason I can't keep my mouth shut for this one. I'm not an expert on music history or anything, but I don't think anything Dave Grohl has done will change the direction of music, or influence the next generation of music, more than a hundred other charismatic, very cool lead dudes. He did not write songs for Nirvana, he played great drums for Nirvana. His other projects are utterly conventional. He knows and works with a shitload of other musicians. He's cool, gregarious, and is a promoter of rock and roll. I suppose that makes him important in some sense, and I suppose he's a musician, but that doesn't make him the most important musician. An important musician transcends his or her era, alters the face of music, is ahead of his or her time by 20 years.
If we're including Dave Grohl in the conversation of "most important musician," then there are a hundred other people that should be talked about alongside him. My definition of "important musician" is a little more exclusive.
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Post by Switch on Mar 15, 2013 6:28:34 GMT -8
By the standards listed here I would have to say Dave Matthews is the most important musician of our time. Dude has been touring for 21 years straight with no breaks and is on the list of top selling artists of all time. www.riaa.com/goldandplatinum.php?content_selector=top-selling-artists The DMB is the first band on this list that is current and not country. Not many people can sell out 3 nights at the Gorge and he has been doing it for the past 13 years. He started selling out the Gorge back in 1996. He is not important to anyone on this board but is clearly important to a lot of people.
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Post by Drew on Mar 15, 2013 6:28:48 GMT -8
By the way, I'm treating this as a fun, light-hearted debate, before anyone takes it too seriously.
Also... Dad Rock.
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Post by Drew on Mar 15, 2013 6:29:53 GMT -8
By the standards listed here I would have to say Dave Matthews is the most important musician of our time. Dude has been touring for 21 years straight with no breaks and is on the list of top selling artists of all time. www.riaa.com/goldandplatinum.php?content_selector=top-selling-artists The DMB is the first band on this list that is current and not country. Not many people can sell out 3 nights at the Gorge and he has been doing it for the past 13 years. He started selling out the Gorge back in 1996. He is not important to anyone on this board but is clearly important to a lot of people. Who are you talking to Switch, me or Pea?
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Post by Switch on Mar 15, 2013 6:40:47 GMT -8
Everyone. I'm just chiming in on the discussion. I know nobody here gives two shits about Dave Matthews so I'll throw out another name to save some of my credibility, Beck. I think Beck has had his hands on a lot of great work and has done a lot to influence musical style.
I think Dave Grohl is great but I wouldn't say most influential musician of our time.
You can't deny that personal preference has a lot to do with this debate.
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Post by Dr. Crane on Mar 15, 2013 6:48:02 GMT -8
I agree with drew, and Switch to an extent. I don't like either of them, but Dave Matthews is more important than Dave Grohl, automatically ruling Grohl out for "most important".
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Post by Dr. Crane on Mar 15, 2013 6:50:20 GMT -8
I am on my phone at work right now and will go into this more later on, but I obviously think the most important musician of our generation is Bjork.
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Post by wompwomp on Mar 15, 2013 6:50:30 GMT -8
You guys are being serious? Dave Matthews?
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Post by Switch on Mar 15, 2013 6:52:32 GMT -8
Totally serious. Just because you don't like him doesn't mean you can deny what he has accomplished in the past 21 years.
Edit: Personal preference has a lot to do with this. I know that everyone knows me as the Bright Eyes superfan but a little known fact is that Dave Matthews is actually my favorite musician of all time. No, I'm not afraid to admit that here. I threw out Beck's name just because my personal preference weighs heavy on this discussion.
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Post by Rusty on Mar 15, 2013 6:52:49 GMT -8
I can't even get into this conversation, because I'm certain every persons idea of who is important is going to straight up piss me off.
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Post by wompwomp on Mar 15, 2013 6:57:54 GMT -8
This just seems like a really silly discussion.
"I truly believe that (insert my favorite artist) is the most important musician of our time"
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Post by Switch on Mar 15, 2013 6:58:55 GMT -8
Now's your chance to get in the discussion, Rusty, before HG or Wonk sets everyone straight.
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Post by Switch on Mar 15, 2013 7:00:23 GMT -8
This just seems like a really silly discussion. "I truly believe that (insert my favorite artist) is the most important musician of our time" I can't help it if my favorite musician of all time happens to be the most important. That's just the way the cookie crumbles. Besides, that's why I used numbers. Numbers are tangible. You could list some obscure artist but it would also be personal preference. If you go strictly by numbers (how many people want to see the live show and how many people spend their money to get the next album) then the numbers do put Dave Matthews up there whether he is my favorite musician or not.
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Post by Dr. Crane on Mar 15, 2013 7:03:59 GMT -8
My favorite artist is redefining music education for children all over the world. She could very well be the most important musician of their generation as well.
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Post by wompwomp on Mar 15, 2013 7:04:41 GMT -8
It's just so subjective. "Most important" means so many different things to different people. Dave Matthews and Bjork mean jack shit to me and the music I listen to, but how can you say Switch or Burrito-man are wrong?
I mean, when I say "most important" for some reason i think back to the artist that first got me on track to my tastes today, and weirdly that would be Billy Corgan. Or, most important to the music that I am really into today would be James Murphy. Is that right or wrong? Who knows, but we should just qualify "most important to me".
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Post by Switch on Mar 15, 2013 7:09:37 GMT -8
I agree 100%. This discussion will just go round and round and round until HG or Wonk gives us the ultimate and undeniable truth and then we will all just have to live with it.
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Post by Drew on Mar 15, 2013 7:33:44 GMT -8
I don't know who is the most important artist of the last 20 years, but I know Dave Grohl and Dave Matthews are not. Bjork might be.
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Post by Dr. Crane on Mar 15, 2013 7:35:59 GMT -8
Super-duper subjective. I think about it from a musician's standpoint, as in who has made the most progress and influence for the evolution of music, because that's what's important to me.
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