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Post by wompwomp on Oct 12, 2011 9:00:27 GMT -8
I love the Cure, one of my all time favorite groups, but they have nowhere near the draw as a Pearl Jam or a Radiohead. I'm with Cbats on this one.
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Post by Cbats on Oct 12, 2011 9:40:16 GMT -8
Yeah the Cure at Sasquatch is one of the best shows I've ever seen. I'm not remotely trying to denigrate either of them I'm just saying as far is big headliners go they aren't on the same level that the others are.
Since this is the wishlist thread I think I'd say my dream lineup is Radiohead (and no other bands) on friday, then The Cure, Sigur Ros, and Portishead as the other headliners.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 12, 2011 10:17:25 GMT -8
Kings of Leon sold out the Gorge less than six months after they played Sasquatch.
Meanwhile, both Radiohead and Phish -- who frequently sell out TWO nights at the Gorge -- have headlined Outside Lands, which is an upstart festival and also has significantly lower capacity than Coachella.
Your logic is inherently flawed. The only thing that will usually keep a band from heading out to the Gorge for Sasquatch is the fact that the Northwest is essentially an extra mini-leg of any tour.
I HATE that we are having this same stupid conversation again already.
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Post by Cbats on Oct 12, 2011 10:47:25 GMT -8
I'm not sure that anything you said was true (except for the fact that this conversation is stupid)
KoL played the Gorge over a year later during which time they also headlined coachella and Use Somebody became inescapable.
As far as Outside Lands goes, it's true that they were an upstart festival but their capacity was more than double what Sasquatch holds (wikipedia says 40-60k the first year and I'd guess the radiohead day was closer to 60k).
Sasquatch is a mid-range festival that gets treated as a top-tier one because of location and good taste by the bookers. We don't get Radiohead's but we do get Massive Attack and Ween. I love it for what it is but when people people spend a bunch of time begging for Radiohead and Pearl Jam they're going to be disappointed when we get Nick Cave or the Black Keys
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 12, 2011 10:52:23 GMT -8
Haha, Nick Cave headlining Sasquatch. That'd be a thing.
I want to see Radiohead at the Gorge, and that's the only part of this conversation that matters to me. There are a few of the really big top-tier bands I'd just love to see at Sasquatch, but none of them will ever be there: Roger Waters, Tom Waits, Peter Gabriel. Coachella has the sense to book some of those legendary performers... I have no fucking clue as to why Adam Snack's coddles the fucking Pitchfork contingent.
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Post by wompwomp on Oct 12, 2011 10:55:22 GMT -8
I think to say that there are no bands that are too big for sasquatch is incredibly naive. There are several acts that headlined one of the big four festivals that would never come to Sasquatch: Prince, Springsteen, Roger Waters, Eminem, Kanye, Jay-Z, etc. I would put Radiohead and Pearl Jam on that list as well.
If you want to take reasonable headliners, I don't think Coldplay or the Chili Peppers are on that list. I put them on the same level as say Kings of Leon, Foo Fighters and yes, The Cure.
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Post by Cbats on Oct 12, 2011 10:57:52 GMT -8
Radiohead at the Gorge would be quite a thing, I'd have no problem making a separate trek out there if it was an option but I'm guessing that Radiohead won't due it because it's bad for the environment. Nick Cave would be sweet too (sure as hell isn't happening though...).
More than anything I'm worried that Snacks will stop coddling the pitchfork set (which I'm obviously partial to...) and instead target a bunch of 17 year old EDM kids (Who just love those black keys)
edit: and I completely agree on booking legendary bands. My favorite part of Sasquatch has been seeing headliners like Bjork and REM who I would have never seen otherwise
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 12, 2011 11:02:00 GMT -8
a bunch of 17 year old EDM kids (Who just love those black keys) ^^^ This is a description of the Pitchfork set. Just because those assholes are too cool for Skrillex doesn't mean they're too cool for Flying Lotus, and in my book those are the same fucking thing.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Oct 12, 2011 11:13:04 GMT -8
Before you say nuh-uh, take a look at the albums Poochfuck has reviewed in the last three months. 1/4 of them are unbelievably shitty hip-hop 'mixtapes' with embarrassingly photoshopped album art, 1/4 of them are bargain bin hipster black metal, 1/4 of them are wishy-washy laptop recordings credited to "blah blah up-and-coming UK producer" and 1/4 of them are a pair of black frame glasses and skin-tight jeans away from being lumped into the general category of dubstep.
They eschewed new albums by They Might Be Giants and Primus, but wouldn't think twice about taking the opportunity to say something cynical about a new U2 record or to heap praise on a new fucking Lady Gaga record. Actual bands -- actual bands of people playing music on instruments -- have disappeared from their radar almost entirely. If these are the Sasquatch lineups of the future, well man that just fucking sucks.
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Post by Geoff on Oct 12, 2011 11:32:53 GMT -8
Speaking of Pitchfork, I think it's funny how they've been covering Beyonce lately. It's like they're trying to say "Hey look! We aren't pretentious music snobs! So stop saying we are!"
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Post by Cbats on Oct 12, 2011 11:35:15 GMT -8
I actually don't disagree with that completely. They've definitely been reviewing a whole lot of EDM that is only different in that it's undanceable and weird. I like Flying Lotus a whole lot more than you do but it's certainly not something I reach for frequently, I like it more for studying than anything else.
Also I can write their TMBG's review right now: return to form, best record in a decade, flood is a classic.
6.2
Is that really something you need to see?
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Post by Cbats on Oct 12, 2011 11:35:52 GMT -8
Also, ravers, will you please come up with a better name than EDM? I can't stand writing that.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Oct 12, 2011 12:45:38 GMT -8
Also I can write their TMBG's review right now: return to form, best record in a decade, flood is a classic. 6.2 Is that really something you need to see? Dude you could not have things more backwards and wrong in why we would want this coverage and review. The idea for me would be that in giving attention to "bands" and music like TMBG and Primus is that it would expose the current trend's weak quality and watered down albums when contrasted. "Join Us", by the way, destroys pretty much any "new" band's album this year. Pitchfork has corrupted your mind's music barometer if you feel it is a 6.2!
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Post by Cbats on Oct 12, 2011 13:03:51 GMT -8
I was mocking the review Pitchfork would write...
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Post by StormyPinkness on Oct 12, 2011 13:28:26 GMT -8
6.2 can eat a big bowl of dicks! You are probably right, cbats, that would be the review and I would continue to be pissed at Pitchfork.
Pitchfork: Sucking the joy out of music since 1995!
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Post by DeadPunk on Oct 12, 2011 14:19:11 GMT -8
I get all my music news from facebook and sasquatchfest.proboards.com, so I can't comment on pitchfork and who they favor or not. But thinking skrillex and flying lotus are similar really hurts my head. I do not compute that statement whatsoever.
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Post by Lump on Oct 12, 2011 15:06:22 GMT -8
Y'ALL R ALL WRONG! MUSIC IS SUBJECTIVE, ASSHOLES!
<3
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Oct 12, 2011 15:35:40 GMT -8
I was mocking the review Pitchfork would write... Whoopsie daisy. My bad cbats!
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Post by stamper on Oct 12, 2011 16:21:26 GMT -8
where the hell is Whoopsie Goldberg?
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Post by Lump on Oct 12, 2011 16:27:24 GMT -8
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