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Post by alex on Sept 22, 2011 13:19:09 GMT -8
I was just imagining the scenario of a 2 day show that cost $100 more than 2011. More money from ticket sales and virtually no overhead. They'd lose out on food and alcohol revenue though, you're right
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Post by Drew on Sept 22, 2011 14:31:29 GMT -8
Friday exists to sell more food and beer. It all exists to sell food and beer.
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Post by davers on Sept 22, 2011 14:47:36 GMT -8
Imagine the lineup they could afford with a few mill extra and 1 less day of expenses. Shit. They will basically spend as little money as they can to sell the thing out regardless. It's a business. You dont spend a certain % of your revenue making things better if you dont have to. Rest assured, if they could sell out at $500 with a lineup headlined by a band that works for beer, they would. Luckily last year just bearly sold out as their ploy to put tickets on stubhub for assloads of money failed miserably, so they will still have to make some sort of effort to make the lineup desirable.
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Post by StormyPinkness on Sept 22, 2011 15:23:59 GMT -8
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Post by alex on Sept 22, 2011 16:07:52 GMT -8
I'm just going to start agreeing with everything everybody says because everything I say seems to be taken the wrong way.
Yes, people will be pissed off IF the festival goes from 4 days to 3 days with no drop in price, but as was just pointed out, Live Nation is in it to make money. IF they can sell the tickets for the 2011 price while producing a 2010 lineup, they will. It really doesn't matter to them if some people are pissed off. Those people are no longer their concern as long as there are other people to take their place (i.e. buy the tickets).
I'm not saying they will change the schedule. I'm not saying they will or will not adjust the price. I'm not saying they would blow their wad on bands just because the money is there. I'm not saying they wouldn't blow their wad on bands just because the money is there. I'm saying they COULD do all of those things, and they COULD reasonably justify any of those actions while not alienating such a large number of fans that they would jeopardize their business.
Clear enough?
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Post by Horned Gramma on Sept 22, 2011 16:28:51 GMT -8
I'm baffled and amused by alex's defensiveness. I don't think anyone is taking anything the wrong way; it would be a strange thing for people to take speculation about the varying costs of music festival tickets the wrong way.
The only thing that's actually going on in this thread is that we're teasing Gunther about repeating his assurance that they wouldn't shorten the festival without dropping the price.
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Post by davers on Sept 22, 2011 17:02:23 GMT -8
Alex I wasnt arguing with you, I was just making a general statement. Your post just seemed like the most reasonable one to quote to make that statement. I know you werent saying that if they got more money and less days the fest would have Zeppelin or something. I was trying to say that if the cost remains high and they drop a day, dont expect a massive lineup just because they have more money to throw around. I know you got that point, I just felt like restating. So the real question is, how can they make the most money. If they made more money last year than previous years, I would expect the same (4 days ~$300 tickets). However, if the extra day of staff and paying for the Foo Fighters caused it to be less profitable, they might go back to 3 days (we have already speculated on what would happen to ticket prices). It does seem like they are pretty confident in a sell out though, because they didnt offer earlybird tickets this year. From what I understand, the point of earlybird tickets is to get people onboard so they will convince their friends to go, and to give people buying pre-lineup a bit of incentive to commit early. I still think a sellout is all but guarenteed baring a really shit lineup because almost everyone I talk to plans to come back. Every year we have had neighbours on at least one side who are first timers and the next year without fail we have a beer with all of them. The number of people I know who go has gone from about 10 in 2009 to about 30 this year. The only reasons I can see for people not coming back are major life change (move, have kid), financial situation changes (lose job, go back to school), major conflict (sorry pea) or didnt have a good time last year. That might make up for 15-25% of the attendance this year. OK thats about all the specualtion and made up numbers I can manage for today. Also: Nice. I like how the bear looks like he is trying to count the money.
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Post by alex on Sept 22, 2011 17:03:44 GMT -8
I originally assumed that Know had some sort of issue with me. Mostly because of a few posts over the last little while where he has seemed extra pissy. I just misinterpreted your posts. Thought you were poking fun at me.
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Post by know ID yuh on Sept 22, 2011 17:09:00 GMT -8
I'm just trying to welcome amygardner777 to board. Why must you always bury my attempts to be thoughtful by turning every thread into every thread is every thread?
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Post by emptyfox on Sept 22, 2011 17:13:00 GMT -8
I do wonder about her real name.
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Post by alex on Sept 22, 2011 17:25:13 GMT -8
I do turn a lot of threads into every threads
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Post by StormyPinkness on Sept 22, 2011 17:56:13 GMT -8
I was just being a ridiculous person because I had a passing fancy to it.
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Post by alex on Sept 22, 2011 18:01:41 GMT -8
So how 'bout that Amy Gardner?
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Post by know ID yuh on Sept 22, 2011 18:24:31 GMT -8
It does seem like they are pretty confident in a sell out though, because they didnt offer earlybird tickets this year. From what I understand, the point of earlybird tickets is to get people onboard so they will convince their friends to go, and to give people buying pre-lineup a bit of incentive to commit early. I think maybe you should ask amygardner777 when "early bird" tickets usually go on sale. She obviously knows more about this than you do.
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Post by Pea on Sept 22, 2011 18:33:35 GMT -8
My favorite part of this thread is when alex freaked out in every post.
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Post by Cysquatch on Sept 22, 2011 18:41:11 GMT -8
If I remember correctly didn't the Foo Fighter/extra day announcement come about the same time as presale? Do they usually leak a headliner that early? Maybe it was just anniversary extra day hype. I think the Pavement announcement was also pretty early.
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Post by Horned Gramma on Sept 22, 2011 18:41:57 GMT -8
A ha ha ha me too! I was like, what was that about? But then I started thinking, Alex is just getting to that point where he's "One Of Us" and so he's kind of jumpy at anything that sounds like criticism.
Love ya Alex! You have my vote for the boarder who has come the farthest in the last calendar year.
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Post by alex on Sept 22, 2011 19:23:25 GMT -8
Thanks guys. I'll try to be less of a spaz in the future.
And yeah Pavement was announced approximately 3 years before everybody else on the 2010 lineup.
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Post by emptyfox on Sept 22, 2011 19:33:46 GMT -8
They've announced one headliner with the pre-sale for the last two years. I would expect them to do that again.
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Post by davers on Sept 22, 2011 20:22:15 GMT -8
It does seem like they are pretty confident in a sell out though, because they didnt offer earlybird tickets this year. From what I understand, the point of earlybird tickets is to get people onboard so they will convince their friends to go, and to give people buying pre-lineup a bit of incentive to commit early. I think maybe you should ask amygardner777 when "early bird" tickets usually go on sale. She obviously knows more about this than you do. Sounds like you got a bit of a crush there buddy. Let me guess, you facebooked her and she is smokin hot? Its ok, I'll let you have her.
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