Post by Horned Gramma on Aug 12, 2011 8:31:12 GMT -8
It's true that Obama is kind of a pushover, but his ineffectiveness is largely due to the GOP's attempts to stonewall everything he tries to do. They're so fucking hell-bent on making the consequences of all the stupid shit the Bush administration did seem like Obama's fault that they don't care how far they drag the country down in the process.
i guess it all depends on perspective. i don't find any of these candidates remotely interesting or charismatic.
Ahh it would appear we are simply using different criteria for "interesting". For me, the political bloodbath that is going to be the GOP Primary is enough to qualify it as extremely interesting. If anything, it is the extreme lack of qualifications in the GOP field that make me feel this way :p
It's true that Obama is kind of a pushover, but his ineffectiveness is largely due to the GOP's attempts to stonewall everything he tries to do. They're SOFA KING hell-bent on making the consequences of all the stupid shit the Bush administration did seem like Obama's fault that they don't care how far they drag the country down in the process.
i agree to a point - but eventually - he's gotta fucking man up. 'the republicans won't let us do anything' excuse is beyond tired. they (democrats) have 2/3 of government. before the 2010 election they (still democrats) had all three houses. the man needs to stop looking at the other side saying 'it's their fault.' he's been doing this crap for three fucking years.
yes, there's a bizarre faction within the republican party that just wants to cock-block his policies, but still --- he's the president.
he needs to take some damn ownership of the country that he chose to lead and get shit done.
I agree with all your points there stamper. A lot of my frustration towards Obama has ultimately come from frustration towards myself for more or less buying into a lot of his hype in 2008. Now I knew he wasn't going to change the world and rain free healthcare down upon us in his first term, but I was confident I was voting for somebody who could capitalize on the leftist-swing the country was taking following the Bush Era and lead the U.S. with a more left-center political approach.
Post by interstateeight on Aug 13, 2011 15:56:05 GMT -8
So I looked at the first post, saw that this thread had eleven pages, and thought "Well this is going to be an unmitigated clusterfuck, a bona fide orgy of stupid," but then I skipped to the last page, and all I have to say is thank god for HG.