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Post by Pea on Feb 12, 2012 19:09:57 GMT -8
Hahaha J-Dawg to the rescue.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Feb 12, 2012 19:10:21 GMT -8
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Post by Lump on Feb 12, 2012 19:11:43 GMT -8
Also, it's funny because I wouldn't have even noticed a watermelon if you hadn't said anything. I feel like RoRo is a professor in a media studies class where they find little semiotic things to make old classics look bad. (Also, I'm totally just roastin' ya, RoRo. Just joshin' around. No harm meant.) On the subject: www.cracked.com/article_15677_the-9-most-racist-disney-characters.html
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Post by J-Dawg on Feb 12, 2012 19:11:47 GMT -8
Hahaha J-Dawg to the rescue. Truth. I always wondered why straight people put up with it.
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Post by Pea on Feb 12, 2012 19:12:56 GMT -8
The black guy WOULD be playing basketball.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2012 19:13:07 GMT -8
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Feb 12, 2012 19:14:15 GMT -8
I feel like RoRo is a professor in a media studies class where they find little semiotic things to make old classics look bad. I know what you meant Lumps, but just want to add that much of the classics were highly ignorant in some mild to extremely devastating and almost unacceptable manners.
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Post by Lump on Feb 12, 2012 19:14:47 GMT -8
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Post by Pea on Feb 12, 2012 19:14:53 GMT -8
I just saw that bacon lube yesterday. They have officially thought of everything.
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Post by Lump on Feb 12, 2012 19:16:41 GMT -8
I feel like RoRo is a professor in a media studies class where they find little semiotic things to make old classics look bad. I know what you meant Lumps, but just want to add that much of the classics were highly ignorant in some mild to extremely devastating and almost unacceptable manners. Oh definitely, I was trying to find a way to more clearly make my point, but I couldn't figure it out. I'm just going to stay off the subject from here on out.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Feb 12, 2012 19:16:54 GMT -8
The black guy WOULD be playing basketball. Yeah, I think if the add was nothing but a slew of stereotypes then there would be more "weight" to the exploding watermelon concern. I saw it pretty much as a climax metaphor without race involvement.
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Post by romanticizer on Feb 12, 2012 19:18:43 GMT -8
Listen, I didn't want to go here really, nor am I saying that the intention is racist. But there is no other KY ad in which there is a montage like that and certainly not any where something blows up. They almost always focus on loud noises or some sort of dancing/ice skating/skipping/jovial activity.
There are 2 commercials with couples of color. 1 with an Asian couple - completely different from this one, and this 1 with a black couple.
Even if they were trying something different by doing the exploding montage, it is completely illogical that they would add an image of a watermelon exploding when it is a common and offensive American stereotype that black people love watermelon. It would be like a bucket of fried chicken exploding.
Furthermore, it is the ONLY ad that I have only seen ONCE which is why I asked if anyone else had seen it because given the nature of the "offense", I would assume that other people may have been offended by it and asked it to be removed from the air.
This whole conversation is going in my essay by the way. =D
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Post by Rusty on Feb 12, 2012 19:21:26 GMT -8
See and I just had no idea that black people liked watermelon( more than usual)...until we started this conversation and I actually googled watermelon & black people, and discovered that this was in fact a stereotype (according to google).
The more you know!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2012 19:21:37 GMT -8
Since when is it offensive to love watermelon? It's fucking delicious.
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Post by romanticizer on Feb 12, 2012 19:23:06 GMT -8
Likely because it's an American based stereotype associated with slavery.
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Post by Pea on Feb 12, 2012 19:27:20 GMT -8
Considering that the shots of the explosions and the filming of the actors were probably filmed by completely different people in completely different locations, I just see absolutely no way that this one object (of many) in the montage was intentionally placed in the ad because of the color of their skin. Do you really think the director contacted the studio putting the explosion montage together and asked them to include a watermelon because black people are in the commercial? I'm sorry, RoRo, but this seems to be some kind of a reverse witch hunt in a way.
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Post by Lump on Feb 12, 2012 19:27:30 GMT -8
Wait, I thought EVERY KY commercial had an explosion montage.
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Post by Friendly Destroyer on Feb 12, 2012 19:27:41 GMT -8
Listen, I didn't want to go here really, nor am I saying that the intention is racist. But there is no other KY ad in which there is a montage like that and certainly not any where something blows up. They almost always focus on loud noises or some sort of dancing/ice skating/skipping/jovial activity. There are 2 commercials with couples of color. 1 with an Asian couple - completely different from this one, and this 1 with a black couple. Even if they were trying something different by doing the exploding montage, it is completely illogical that they would add an image of a watermelon exploding when it is a common and offensive American stereotype that black people love watermelon. It would be like a bucket of fried chicken exploding. Furthermore, it is the ONLY ad that I have only seen ONCE which is why I asked if anyone else had seen it because given the nature of the "offense", I would assume that other people may have been offended by it and asked it to be removed from the air. This whole conversation is going in my essay by the way. =D Although I didn't pick up on any deliberate racial implications I will tell you this, If I, as a white male, were the add guy making this add I personally wouldn't have put the watermelon in there. There are many options out there beyond exploding watermelon to choose from and I would have probably have chosen one of those. I'm sure people will gawfof at this and say I'm being too sensitive, but it's not like that stereotype hasn't been propaganded to us, and it's not like that stereotype has been shed in any positive light either. This is a commercial, not a comedy sketch or anything else, if there is something I can do that gets the idea across with the exact same impact I would choose the one that doesn't leave room to offend anyone. EDIT by "offend anyone" I mean offend who they are (race, sexual orientation, ...). I care not about offending sensibilities.
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Post by Cbats on Feb 12, 2012 19:29:23 GMT -8
Likely because it's an American based stereotype associated with slavery. it is?
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Post by Lump on Feb 12, 2012 19:30:22 GMT -8
/subject.
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