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Post by spirulina on May 22, 2011 14:17:14 GMT -8
someone help! I don't understand this mess. Why is everyone on my facebook list talking about it like it's good?
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Post by Pea on May 22, 2011 14:18:26 GMT -8
Do a search for him in this forum and you will find a fun discussion about him in one of the threads.
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Post by Geoff on May 22, 2011 14:23:32 GMT -8
I really do like his first album, but the new overhyped album isn't that great.
But I guess since pitchfork says it's good, that's why other people are saying it's good.
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Post by Lump on May 22, 2011 14:51:56 GMT -8
someone help! I don't understand this mess. Why is everyone on my facebook list talking about it like it's good? We don't get it either, you're not alone.
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Post by Cbats on May 22, 2011 15:08:54 GMT -8
I'm one of the bigger fans on here but it's clearly not for everyone. If you don't enjoy Yonkers it's probably not gonna be for you. If Goblin is the only thing you listened though, you should know it's really not the best place to start. Mellowhype's blackenedwhite and Earl Sweatshirt's Earl are much better albums.
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Post by Lump on May 22, 2011 15:10:59 GMT -8
I still promise I will listen to blackenedwhite. I keep forgetting to, though.
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Post by Cbats on May 22, 2011 15:14:23 GMT -8
no worries, but definitely give it a listen when you can. I think everyone who doesn't understand the appeal of odd future should give it a listen because it's only the fun parts of their sound, and barely any of the rape-y misogynistic stuff that permeates everything Tyler does.
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Post by spirulina on May 22, 2011 15:15:50 GMT -8
...rape-y misogynistic stuff that permeates everything Tyler does. yeah, that's what I heard and I'm all like when every female on my list posts a new song every day. It got weird.
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Post by Cbats on May 22, 2011 15:20:32 GMT -8
Yeah there isn't really a way to justify his lyrics. More think pieces have been written about this than pretty much anything else in music over the last year. I think NPR's story was called something like "why you should listen to odd future even though it's hard."
I think most of his fans at this point are really hoping he grows up soon because the songs he does that aren't so violent are much more interesting. It's really easy to dismiss all of his music because of the lyrics but there really is a lot more going on that causes people to look past them.
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Post by Horned Gramma on May 22, 2011 15:21:44 GMT -8
Absolute, utter horse shit. Check about six or seven pages back in the Now Playing Thread and you'll get plenty of insight on Tyler.
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Post by spirulina on May 22, 2011 15:30:22 GMT -8
that's no fun, you should at least check out some of the other songs they'll probably play. Sandwitches (tyler) Fuck the Police (mellowhype) French (tyler) Rolling Papers (Domo Genesis) did someone get confused and think they were playing sasquatch? am i confused and ARE they playing sasquatch? god, i hope not. The thing is, I get the whole shock value thing. I get the edgy i-want-to-scare-old-white-people thing (tyler's words, not mine). I just don't get how everyone romanticizes it as if it were Ginsberg or Henry Miller or something.
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Post by Cbats on May 22, 2011 15:37:51 GMT -8
lumps is going to see them at Pitchfork I think, that's why I was recommending them. By far the best review I've read of goblin is this one: www.cokemachineglow.com/record_review/6213/tylerthecreator-goblin-2011It's pretty negative but it also highlights what is exciting about the whole odd future crew (outside of goblin) This part explains my problems with goblin really well: His first album (bastard) was a lot more fun because he actually didn't care what other people thought and the outrageous lyrics actually sounded outrageous. On goblin they just sound corny.
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Post by spirulina on May 22, 2011 15:42:19 GMT -8
There we go. There's a valid criticism that makes more sense. I suppose now I can chalk all those people on FB up to folks who have followed the herd. There can't be that many suburban white girls who "get it".
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Post by Cbats on May 22, 2011 15:47:22 GMT -8
no probably not. Don't mistake all these criticisms for me saying that there isn't merit in there. Goblin probably has 6 or 7 killer tracks. Bastard is a really good album, and pretty much everything odd future has done is worth giving a listen to. Goblin is just a classic sophomore slump and it's a damn shame that it's going to be the way most people are introduced to odd future.
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Post by interstateeight on May 22, 2011 15:50:40 GMT -8
Decided to see what the hullabaloo about this guy's lyrics is all about, picked a song on Songmeanings: They say success is the best revenge so I beat Deshay up with a stack of magazines I'm in. Oh, not again, another critic writing report- I'm stabbin' any blogging f*g**t hipster with a Pitchfork. Yeah! f*g**ts!
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Post by Switch on May 22, 2011 15:54:08 GMT -8
wow
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Post by Cbats on May 22, 2011 15:56:30 GMT -8
if you're going to post lyrics at least make them really offensive:
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Post by Switch on May 22, 2011 15:58:47 GMT -8
Jesus man. That's intense
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Post by interstateeight on May 22, 2011 16:06:22 GMT -8
I didn't see that one. Wild.
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Post by stamper on May 22, 2011 16:11:01 GMT -8
if you're going to post lyrics at least make them really offensive: if those are actual lyrics to one of his songs... you people really should be ashamed of yourselves for listening to that shit.
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