Post by J. Walter Weatherman on Apr 2, 2011 9:45:32 GMT -8
Speaking of which, Gunther: I honestly wasn't taking a dig at you, I wanted to know (hehe) what your reaction was to what seemed to be- from my perspective- a completely unexpected, extremely poor defensive outing. I think that the seattle fans are totally discounting the five errors that were made, although King Felix did have a stellar outing (first mariners opening day complete game).
Also, directed towards Breezy Cool Draft: You were at the game, right? My mom said this is hands down the most people they've had at a game in years. What was the overall reaction?
Yes, I know its a long season, I'm really more baseball literate than I had remembered or given myself credit for.
And finally, full disclosure: I am so totally gong show right now. Yes, I know its 10:45 in the morning.
Post by interstateeight on Apr 2, 2011 10:05:59 GMT -8
Pretty sure his reaction was something like "ARGH, FUCK! ARE YOU KIDDING?" Oakland has probably the best defensive infield in MLB, so seeing 5 errors in a night is fluke-fucking-tastic.
Which Mariners fans are you talking to? My go-to Mariners blog is Lookout Landing, where the game story was headlined: Mariners Drop A's Thanks To Felix Hernandez, A's
I was at the game, yes. Attendance was something like 36,000, or whatever constitutes a sellout at the Coliseum (when the top decks are closed). I've been to three (I think) baseball games there, including last year's Opening Day, and I believe this one was fairly packed.
I don't know where they were coming from, but many people had little temporary tattoos saying "STAY" with the Oakland A in there. For reference:
Post by know ID yuh on Apr 2, 2011 11:07:14 GMT -8
I planned on watching the game live, and did watch the first two innings live, but something came up. Like I mentioned before, it really isn't a big deal, it's more my fault for not watching the games live. Had it happened next week, or next month, I wouldn't have cared. The only reason I reacted the way I did is because it happened a couple hours after my initial plea. I'm over it.
As for the five errors, shit happens. Everything seems to balance itself out over the course of the season, and they still have one of the best defenses in baseball, so I'm not worried about it. You'd be a pretty fucking unhappy person if you let every loss by your team affect you too personally, because even the best teams lose 50+ games a season.
I8, depending on where you were sitting, you probably didn't get a great view Ziegler's failed pick off attempt, but it was blooper of the year type comedy. The ball hit the ground a good ten feet before the base, and was about ten feet outside. It was like he decided not to throw it at the last minute, but had it slip out of his hand.
The "Stay" thing is just the fans feeling screwed over about the constant talk of moving the team, and since nothing long term has happened even though they've been talking about it for ten years. They literally don't know where the team will be in two years.
And I did use I-8 and 8-I for the strikeouts, and there were a lot of them. The funny thing is, it looks like the numbers one and eight, which in scoring terms is the pitcher and the center fielder. Therefore, whenever there was a strike out, it looks like it was a put out, pitcher to CF, or vice versus, which is pretty much an impossible way to get out.
Update: Mets are still the Mets; more on this as it develops
Also, as much as my current local team the Pittsburgh Pirates suck, they are really good with their swag and value and such: due to various discounts and such next Friday's day-after-opening-day game against the Rockies will run me $10 for the following: transport, ticket, hot dog, shirt, drink, and then $3 to gamble on the pirogi race.
Post by J. Walter Weatherman on Apr 2, 2011 11:34:57 GMT -8
Yeah, that pick off attempt was absurd. The commentator said it looked like he was shocked to see Ichiro still on the bag and ended up spiking it instead of just holding onto it. That seemed like a fair assessment to me.
Post by know ID yuh on Apr 2, 2011 15:20:33 GMT -8
That pick off move still makes me laugh. Four of those errors were really really bad, like plays I could have made. To be fair though, the second error on Kouzmanoff was a pretty wicked hop on a hard hit ball, and Ichiro would've gotten a hit had that game been in Seattle.
Is there a porpoise for the extra large foul territory?
Don't even get me started. Okay, you did. Prepare to have your mind blown, because this is something you've never thought about.
The reason the stadium is such a piece of shit, and has so much foul territory, is because it is a football stadium. All the seats point toward the rectangular football field, not where all the action in baseball is, pitcher/catcher/home plate. There are areas in that park where you literally have to turn your head a 45-70 degrees to the right or left to watch the pitcher/catcher/home plate. Baseball only stadiums make sure everyone is more or less facing the action, instead of facing the center fielder.
Also, teams make the most money on selling luxury suites, and the seats closest to the action. The Coliseum doesn't have this option. That is why they need a new park to compete financially with the teams who are making a shit ton of revenue just because of the luxury suites and seats close to the action. It's also the reason why all the new ballparks don't have spacious foul territory. They make a killing putting seats in those areas.
The Coliseum is the worst baseball stadium in the league because of this, and I didn't even mention you might get mugged leaving the stadium, because it is in a bad part of town. They've had many stadium plans fall through, and Mr. Selig is being a bitch letting it happen. Competitively, it's not fair, since there is no salary cap and revenue sharing like there is in other sports. It's also a great reason to be an A's fan, because they can still compete with the rich teams operating on a much smaller budget. It's the concept behind the book Moneyball. Billy Beane has to figure out a way to be smarter than the opposition, and value the undervalued, because he can't out-spend them.
Speaking of budget, the Mariners are the definition of a terrible franchise who can't allocate their finances correctly. They routinely have one of the highest payrolls in the league, yet they almost always suck.