If you get to know someone it doesn't really matter where they are from.
This is exactly how everyone should approach it. I think the problems occur when there is some sort of imaginary competition. It seems like when Americans (people from the United States, Canadians are Americans too) and Canadians get together there is sometimes this notion that there is a competition over who is better. We are all here to have fun, party, enjoy life, and listen to killer tunes.
I disagree. Okay let me phrase it another way. I am here to have fun, party, enjoy life, and listen to killer tunes, and I will do so with anyone else who feels the same way, regardless of what country they come from.
Sasquatch has taught me that I like Canadians much better than US residents.
I had a different experience with some Canadians. Are any of you part of the camp or did anyone come across the camp that ripped down a bunch of the fence and had a huge fire in a garbage can? They were yelling stuff like "fuck America" and they were burning American flags. They were located in the very back of the campground where the food vendors were. I was pissed. This was on an American holiday. I am by no means a super patriot or anything but this really bothered me.
On the other hand, I met this couple that was originally from Ireland but lived in Canada. They gave me shots of grey goose while we watched Broken Social Scene. They are the type of Canadians I like.
I's sorry, but this sounds either made up, or a serious exaggeration. I've never come across a Canadian that has a serious hatred towards the States, maybe grumpy about having a lower valued dollar, but that's it.
Also were they proudly flying the Canadian flag, whilst burning the American one. Or did you just guess they were Canadian.
Post by Horned Gramma on Feb 3, 2011 14:17:38 GMT -8
The problem with a lot of Canadian Squatchers is they come down to the fest and they're all like, 'We're from Canada, eh? We're gonna be the biggest, loudest, most fucking Canadian douchebags we can possibly be!'
It's like those extremely effeminate but EXTREMELY insecure homosexuals who go out of their way to slap asses and mime fellatio in an attempt to make someone uncomfortable and get a reaction. It's like, cool dude: you're gay/Canadian/what the fuck ever. I'm an American, but I do not at ALL feel the need to make sure everyone within 100 yards knows it at all times, just like I don't feel like it's my social obligation to make sure everyone knows that I'm straight.
That, and the fucking cigarettes. PICK UP YOUR FUCKING CIGARETTE BOXES, CANADIANS. The Gorge is not your fucking toilet.
I actually went out of my way to ensure that I didn't have a Canadian flag/shirt/hat/anything last year because I assumed the place would be overrun by that kind of stuff.
It's actually a little bit funny if you think about it. Canadians are notorious for being polite, modest, and pretty vanilla, but if you give us a ticket to a music festival, we're showing up with every piece of Canadiana we have. Pilsner flags, Saskatchewan Roughriders jerseys, Team Canada memorabilia, etc.
We're a patriotic bunch.
Horned Gramma, I'd like to extend my deepest apologies to you on behalf of every Canadian I know. We truly regret the actions of our fellow Canadians which have clearly cut you so deep that almost a full year later you are unable to let go of their atrocities. Once again, I cannot even imagine why someone would take Canadian cigarettes into the USA, as they are far more expensive here and from what I'm told, American cigarettes are better anyway.
Post by Horned Gramma on Feb 3, 2011 14:41:14 GMT -8
This is cumulative, over five years at Sasquatch. It's the same every year, it's to the point where I'm just like: You're Canadian. I get it.
And the thing with cigarettes is, it's fucking disgusting to see the Gorge -- our beautiful Gorge Amphitheater -- just COVERED with garbage at the end of a day of Squatching. And when I'm stepping over piles of garbage, I just can't help but notice what a ridiculous amount of Canadian cigarette packages are left out. More than anything, they're fucking EVERYWHERE. Whatever guys - when it comes down to it, you guys are our guests and that is not how guests behave. If I was hanging in Vancouver, I wouldn't go around just dropping my trash in the street.
Well as a non-smoker I'd rather not be painted with that brush, but I can see where you're coming from.
We're not all assholes who drop our garbage wherever. I just want you to remember that.
Dude, I know that. As an American, 'We're Not All Assholes' is my mantra. Just like Americans, though, for every one of you with any class there are five of you who are belligerently drunk on Shitcreek Lager bellowing 'O Canada' into the night.
I'm not buying the Switch flag burning story because American flags do not exist at the Sasquatch campground. 99.9% of the flags are Canadian. The other 0.1% are Seattle Sounders.
I know it sounds like I am just exaggerating, but I assure you that I am not. I sat and watched this camp for an hour one night because I was fuming mad. Like HG said too, they had a huge fucking garbage heap and they were tearing down the gorge fence and burning it in a metal garbage can. They were pissed at the gorge staff and sheriffs about something so they started yelling stuff about "burn that fucking flag" and "fuck America" and "Fuck the authorities", etc. I assure you that this happened and it left a bad taste in my mouth. I am not generalizing Canadians, I was just pissed at this group. They came to this country to see one of the greatest concerts in existence, during a holiday that is important to many Americans, and they might as well been wearing shirts that read "The World is My Ashtray"
And I didn't guess that they were Canadians, they had a van with a big Canadian flag on it.