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Posted by Pea on Apr 25, 2011, 9:57pm

Apr 25, 2011, 9:25pm, Shaxspear III Esq. wrote:
Yeah something like that.

Did anyone catch the Lucent Dossier Experience in the Do Lab?

Holy hell it was cool. Managed to snap a short vid.

**Edited for LOUD NOISES. The first second is loud until camera dampens the sound**





I stumbled in on part of this set. Fucking insane!
Posted by wompwomp on Apr 26, 2011, 9:31am
The Do Lab was freaking sweet. Every time I went in there the music was awesome.

There were some straaaaaaange cats hanging around there all weekend. I went in there a couple times just to stand by one of the misters and people watch, many laughs were had.
Posted by Pea on Apr 26, 2011, 10:03am
Haha yea, the Do-Lab seemed to attrack a crowd totally unique from the rest of of the festival. And you're right, the music was always fantastic in there. I heard everything from dubstep to some weird jazz standard infused electro being played. I need to spend more of my downtime in there next year for sure.
Posted by inthecolumbiagorge on Apr 29, 2011, 4:20pm
Actually the Skrillex set at Coachella this year was pretty amazing and everyone in our group that saw it thought it was one of the best:-) Not necessarily my thing but I went with some of the group because they were so excited about it and I am really glad I did because it was fantastic!
Posted by XhornedXgrammaX on Apr 29, 2011, 4:24pm
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Posted by know ID yuh on Apr 29, 2011, 4:31pm

Apr 29, 2011, 4:20pm, inthecolumbiagorge wrote:
Actually the Skrillex set at Coachella this year was pretty amazing and everyone in our group that saw it thought it was one of the best:-) Not necessarily my thing but I went with some of the group because they were so excited about it and I am really glad I did because it was fantastic!


I'm writing a gigantically long review of the festival that I'm almost half done with. Since you mentioned this, I'll just pull out a paragraph as a sneak preview.

"Back to the Sahara for Skrillex. Giant crowd, and a killer light show, the best I've seen so far today. One thing I learned this weekend from spending so much time hanging out with ravers is this, if you want to be taken seriously in their culture, you cannot like Skrillex. It's the equivalent of telling a bunch of indie rockers you are a big Kings of Leon fan. So here I go sacrificing my rave credibility by saying this was a pretty rad show, one of the highlights of the day."
Posted by XhornedXgrammaX on Apr 29, 2011, 4:35pm
^^^
This from a guy who doesn't own a single piece of clothing that doesn't have at least nine zippers on it. I know how much your rave cred meant to you Gunther, it's a breath of fresh air to see so much painful honesty in today's journalistic climate.
Posted by Shaxspear III Esq. on Apr 29, 2011, 9:27pm
I should be clear about my stance on Skrillex. I used to DJ for years, and I tend to focus on and notice a DJs mixing ability moreso than the average person. Sometimes it's a curse because it takes away from just simply enjoying the music for what it is. Now, I dislike 90% of dubstep, but "some" of Skrillex' songs have their moments I can enjoy. He is a skilled producer and his songs are well mastered and layered with a lot of sound.

That being said.... In this day and age where someone "DJ's" a show using a computer program like Abelton, that does ALL the mixing work for you, and you STILL can't pull of proper smooth mix? Then I just can't get into it. It defeats the whole aspect of DJ'ing.
Posted by dontoro on Apr 29, 2011, 9:32pm

Apr 29, 2011, 9:27pm, Shaxspear III Esq. wrote:


That being said.... In this day and age where someone "DJ's" a show using a computer program like Abelton, that does ALL the mixing work for you, and you STILL can't pull of proper smooth mix? Then I just can't get into it. It defeats the whole aspect of DJ'ing.


This sums up 99% of Dubstep "artists" for me. Give me something more, give me a show that YOU put on, not your computer, and not your half-assed lights. If your visceral sounds are going to wreak damage to my internal organs at least give me something I can't get from a hundred other aspiring, "artists."
Posted by dontoro on Apr 29, 2011, 9:33pm
I mean 95% of electronic "artists," dubstep is too narrow to just focus on it alone.
Posted by emptyfox on Apr 29, 2011, 9:52pm
Producing is a skill worthy of being called an art. Most (not all) DJ'ing is not.
Posted by Shaxspear III Esq. on Apr 29, 2011, 11:37pm
That's all fine and dandy, but why pay money to see an artist who isn't "performing"? Why not just put on your CD and listen to it in your headphones? Of course Skrillex does more than just play a song, but not by much. He sets up his mixes before hand with the help of Abelton and then dinks around on a Trigger Finger or Akai pad (which also does all the work for you). So it blows my mind that this guy gets paid thousands of dollars to perform a show that in reality my 5 year old neice could perform if I set it up for her before hand. The fact that he has had to cancel performances because his laptop died is a testament to that.


Great producer. Terrible performer. I also have my suspicions that Deadmau5 has his fingers on his production work as well.

Maybe I'm a grouchy old purist. Maybe this is the new medium for performing. I just miss when DJ'ing used to require some form of skill. To me it's akin to how HG feels about how he used to save up money to go to the record store and buy that album he longed for.
Posted by Shaxspear III Esq. on Apr 30, 2011, 12:31am
I hate that thiis is the second time today I've gotten into a debate about Skrillex haha.
Posted by dontoro on Apr 30, 2011, 1:07am
Not gonna lie, but I do tend to toss artists like Deadmau5 and even Daft Punk into the, "what the hell is going to make me pay an obscene amount of money to see you stand a press buttons," category, but at least with Deadmau5 and Daft Punk you get a show like nothing else. Yeah it takes an artistic ear and talent to produce music, but when we go to shows we're not paying for a producer, we pay for performers, with that being said, I want a fucking performance.

Deadmau5 and Daft give you an indelible performance this much can't really be argued, there are a lot of elements that go into their shows and as such I can, without hesitation, consider them artists, despite standing around, pressing buttons, and shaking your arms ocassionally.

Bassnectar is hit and miss for me, it's a show, but not always a good one. Dj'n is more than pre-made samples, it's for this reason I still get blown away by Greg Gillis, (Girl Talk,) because though his shows will often imitate the CD he's definitely adlibbing a bunch too.

I've seen Skillex and other commercially acclaimed EDM artists and they are great one time shows, but after I've seen them I've never had a desire to pay strictly for them.
Posted by emptyfox on Apr 30, 2011, 3:04am

Apr 30, 2011, 1:07am, dontoro wrote:
Not gonna lie, but I do tend to toss artists like Deadmau5 and even Daft Punk into the, "what the hell is going to make me pay an obscene amount of money to see you stand a press buttons," category, but at least with Deadmau5 and Daft Punk you get a show like nothing else. Yeah it takes an artistic ear and talent to produce music, but when we go to shows we're not paying for a producer, we pay for performers, with that being said, I want a fucking performance.

Deadmau5 and Daft give you an indelible performance this much can't really be argued, there are a lot of elements that go into their shows and as such I can, without hesitation, consider them artists, despite standing around, pressing buttons, and shaking your arms ocassionally.

Bassnectar is hit and miss for me, it's a show, but not always a good one. Dj'n is more than pre-made samples, it's for this reason I still get blown away by Greg Gillis, (Girl Talk,) because though his shows will often imitate the CD he's definitely adlibbing a bunch too.

I've seen Skillex and other commercially acclaimed EDM artists and they are great one time shows, but after I've seen them I've never had a desire to pay strictly for them.


This I would agree with. I actually was agreeing with you the first time too. I still wanna dance my shut off either way though.

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