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Posted by XhornedXgrammaX on Aug 6, 2012, 12:47am
Just because Phish and the Dead are both technically (generically) referred to as 'jam bands' doesn't necessarily mean there is a lot of crossover between fans. I mean, 'technically' (generically) Dave Matthews Band is also a 'jam band' but... yeah, you know?

I'll tell you this: when we saw Phish at the Gorge last summer, the Deadheads were relegated to their own particularly stinky corner of the campground. It's NOT six of one and half a dozen of the other.

Personally, I don't have much use for the Dead. I love American Beauty -- very, very much -- but nothing else they ever put out does much for me.
Posted by XhornedXgrammaX on Aug 6, 2012, 12:47am
However, not having listened to Radiohead in 2012 qualifies as willful ignorance.
Posted by J-Dawg on Aug 6, 2012, 12:57am
And, for me, Animal Collective is a band I haven't given the time of day to.

Aside from that, I'm not sure if I'm missing out on "seminal" bands. Probably a number of newer ones yes, but I've got the 70s, 80s and 90s well-covered.

A question, because I'm curious: how many of you have listened to older Jazz albums with music written / performed by folks like John Coltrane, Billie Holiday, Etta Jones, Oscar Peterson, Louis Armstrong, Miles Davis, Ella Fitzgerald, Shirley Horn, Nina Simone, Etta Jones, Dinah Washington, Sarah Vaughan, Sonny Rollins... ?

I would consider a lot of that music to be seminal in its own way, but this is possibly the wrong crowd.
Posted by Cysquatch on Aug 6, 2012, 8:43am
The Velvet Underground
Hüsker Dü
Fugazi
Posted by Cysquatch on Aug 6, 2012, 9:02am

Aug 6, 2012, 12:47am, XhornedXgrammaX wrote:
Just because Phish and the Dead are both technically (generically) referred to as 'jam bands' doesn't necessarily mean there is a lot of crossover between fans. I mean, 'technically' (generically) Dave Matthews Band is also a 'jam band' but... yeah, you know?

I'll tell you this: when we saw Phish at the Gorge last summer, the Deadheads were relegated to their own particularly stinky corner of the campground. It's NOT six of one and half a dozen of the other.

Personally, I don't have much use for the Dead. I love American Beauty -- very, very much -- but nothing else they ever put out does much for me.


Yeah, but when I started really listening to Phish, I could definitely hear the Grateful Dead influence.
Posted by blacksmile on Aug 6, 2012, 10:57am

Aug 6, 2012, 8:43am, Cysquatch wrote:
The Velvet Underground
Hüsker Dü
Fugazi


Husker Du are amazing. You should definitely check them out. Bob Mould has one of the greatest voices in modern music.
Posted by Pea on Aug 6, 2012, 11:03am

Aug 5, 2012, 9:18pm, wonk wrote:

And if you've never listened to Led Zeppelin, face palm.


Who said that? I've heard them plenty. I've just never felt compelled to dive into their catalog based on the songs I've heard throughout my life.
Posted by Cysquatch on Aug 6, 2012, 11:03am
I will definitely go through that list today. I thought I had my basis covered for this thread, but after some thought, I found there are still many I have overlooked. J-Dawg mentioned some names above I should probably look into. You can keep going back in history, and find many musicians that you have overlooked.
Posted by NO LOVE DEEP BJORRITO on Aug 6, 2012, 11:42pm

Aug 6, 2012, 8:43am, Cysquatch wrote:
The Velvet Underground
Fugazi


Both of these bands would make my top 20 list.
Posted by Shaxspear III Esq. on Aug 7, 2012, 12:42am

Aug 6, 2012, 12:57am, J-Dawg wrote:
And, for me, Animal Collective is a band I haven't given the time of day to.

Aside from that, I'm not sure if I'm missing out on "seminal" bands. Probably a number of newer ones yes, but I've got the 70s, 80s and 90s well-covered.

A question, because I'm curious: how many of you have listened to older Jazz albums with music written / performed by folks like John Coltrane, Billie Holiday, Etta Jones, Oscar Peterson, Louis Armstrong, Miles Davis, Ella Fitzgerald, Shirley Horn, Nina Simone, Etta Jones, Dinah Washington, Sarah Vaughan, Sonny Rollins... ?

I would consider a lot of that music to be seminal in its own way, but this is possibly the wrong crowd.


I grew up listening to jazz and played trumpet in school from grade 7-12 thanks to one of the best teachers a kid could ask for. I even got to play with Arturo Sandoval once.
Posted by weenie on Aug 7, 2012, 12:49am
I went through a huge jazz period a couple years back. I think it's something that everyone must do at the right point in your life. Troubled romance is a really perfect point for that.
Posted by Souly on Aug 18, 2012, 12:51am
Dave Matthews Band
Posted by davers on Aug 18, 2012, 1:26am

Aug 3, 2012, 11:33pm, XhornedXgrammaX wrote:

Aug 3, 2012, 10:28pm, blacksmile wrote:


Fuck I hate The Smiths.


I do too, although I couldn't identify a single Smiths song. I hate them on principle.

Elvis/Beatles
Ween/Sonic Youth
Smiths/Cure

...you're one kind of dude or you're the other.


I'm still catching up and am bored on the train. I like all of those bands. Lots. Picking between the smiths and the cure is really hard. I could take the beatles over elvis but elvis is fantastic. Sonic youth vs ween is tough, but I'd take sonic youth reluctantly.

Edit: I now see others already made that point after reading further. Ignore that bit I guess.


I would say for me:

Talking heads
Tears for fears

I know songs by them both, but can't say I've really listened to any albums more than once.
Posted by XhornedXgrammaX on Aug 18, 2012, 2:53am
Tears for Fears would surprise you, I bet.
Posted by StormyPinkness on Aug 18, 2012, 5:03am
Everybody wanna rule the world with tears for fear

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