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| Posted by jsmartinii on May 9, 2012, 3:04pm |
| I know this is all just talk but.....I've actually ran a very, very small one day festival and I also interned at Bumbershoot (on the sponsorship team)...one of the biggest costs comes in the form of insurance you have to be indemnified against someone getting hurt. Usually underwritten by an insurance company who who regularly covers this sort of thing. That indemnification does not come cheap...then there is the rental fee for the property...and the cost of the police...All those grant county cops on hand at Sasquatch are getting paid by Sasquatch...and wages for all the personnel to work the merch booths, ticket booths, grounds crew, beer stands etc....then there is the stage crew, lighting experts, sound guys, private security etc etc...And we haven't even started talking about artist fees and the transportation costs getting to and from the event....And all those sponsors at Sasquatch? Many provide in-kind sponsorships, which means very little money changes hands - rather there is a trade off in advertising or services...you would need very deep pockets and a solid business plan to get an investment and probably would not see any money from banks...but that's just my own 2 cents |
| Posted by DREW OF THE RUSHES on May 9, 2012, 3:19pm |
There you have it.
We need a billionaire investor. |
| Posted by emptyfox on May 9, 2012, 3:42pm |
| I hear Joss Whedon is about to be a Billionaire. I bet his eccentric ass likes music. |
| Posted by davers on May 10, 2012, 12:22am |
May 9, 2012, 2:32pm, RUST NEVER SLEEPS wrote:
Rusty did you go to Pemberton? It was a huge clusterfuck. Security walked off the job and the panic hired new people. Basically everything went wrong and when that happens you need to throw money at it.
They did get a new lease on the land in late 2009 yet they have never done another one. Partially because they pissed the town off and mostly because they lost a shit ton of money. |
| Posted by RUST NEVER SLEEPS on May 10, 2012, 10:05am |
May 10, 2012, 12:22am, davers wrote:
May 9, 2012, 2:32pm, RUST NEVER SLEEPS wrote:
Is it wrong if I don't believe that for a second?
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when that happens you need to throw money at it.
They did get a new lease on the land in late 2009 yet they have never done another one. Partially because they pissed the town off and mostly because they lost a shit ton of money. |
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Yah I was there, it was a fucking blast. I always thought they never did it again because they couldn't get the land approval,.
I just always thought they didn't lose money because it felt like they didn't spend any money. But I guess that feeling could have just as easily been caused by poor organization. |
| Posted by davers on May 10, 2012, 10:47am |
| Pemberton started my love affair with music festivals and I read any news that had to do with the possibility of another one for over a year. In 2009 after a lenghty process to get approval they signed a 10 year lease on the land. At that point it was too late to do a 2009 version. I thought for sure there would be a 2010 version but it never happened, mostly because they couldn't Dr. Garbanzoure a way to close the massive gap between the money earned and the money spent. That area just isn't meant for 40000 people. |
| Posted by emptyfox on May 10, 2012, 10:47am |
| If memory serves, they ended up securing a different location altogether, but they just didn't end up using the lease. |
| Posted by RUST NEVER SLEEPS on May 10, 2012, 10:55am |
| Hmm well you guys have proved me wrong I guess. I just had such a good time there that it had to be JiveNation's fault that it wasn't happening again. |
| Posted by alex on May 10, 2012, 11:05am |
| It's too bad really. Even with the lack of security and whatnot the worst part of the weekend by far was sitting in that trainyard/gravel parking lot for 3hrs in 35 degree heat waiting for a bus to the camping area. Just brutal |
| Posted by RUST NEVER SLEEPS on May 10, 2012, 11:09am |
I came from the opposite side; no bus, just a little walk from the parking lot. But then I had to jog back to my car, and drive to pick up my girlfriend from the shit-show side of things, so I definitely so how lame that was.
Coming from Edmonton why wouldn't you have been on the other side? |
| Posted by alex on May 10, 2012, 11:58am |
| I have no idea. We came down on 99 via Lillooet and turned into the first place that said Pemberton Festival. |
| Posted by RUST NEVER SLEEPS on May 10, 2012, 12:02pm |
| I came from the Lillooet side as well, it definitely way better than the other side. Did you park at some airport? |
| Posted by alex on May 10, 2012, 12:11pm |
| No, it was like some old trainyard for a pulp mill or something. |
| Posted by RUST NEVER SLEEPS on May 10, 2012, 12:25pm |
haha, my memory is clearly failing me. Regardless, I didn't take a bus, I just walked about a kilometer with my shit. I walked right into the grounds unchecked, it was glorious.
My favorite moment ever, was after the security gave up and the fences came apart. People were just walking in with 60's of hard liquor. Like drinking them as they walked in, and the auxiliary police watched, but were seemingly to afraid to deal with anything. |
| Posted by alex on May 10, 2012, 12:29pm |
| Had we known how close we were to the actual venue we totally would have walked. Live and learn I guess. Ignorance was definitely not bliss that day. |
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