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Message:	[quote author=stamper board=other thread=1612 post=133815 time=1348786528][quote author=drewoftherushes board=other thread=1612 post=133810 time=1348782899]Yeah, WHO HERE HATES THE BEATLES!?!?[/quote] I hate the Beatles in the same sense that I hate Citizen Kane...which is to say, I don't [i]really[/i] hate them - because I recognize how amazing and important they were, and I even enjoy most of their stuff - but I do hate having to hear about them all the time when people want to toss out 'greatest band of all time' nonsense. And for that reason, I do kinda hate them. [/quote] Expand
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Posted by wonk on Sept 27, 2012, 3:08pm

Sept 27, 2012, 2:16pm, DREW OF THE RUSHES wrote:

I wonder if there's one band that we can all agree on as being the shit. I don't think there is, but I'm willing to test the theory.

Pea and Gramma pretty much have opposite tastes in music, so you would have to start with a short list of bands they can agree on.

Posted by Pea on Sept 27, 2012, 3:22pm

Then you have curveballs like Sleigh Bells, who HG should hate and should be my all time favorite band, but it's quite the opposite.

Like I said, Massive Attack is probably a safe bet. ANYONE WHO HATES THEM IS A FUCKING IDIOT

Posted by StormyPinkness on Sept 27, 2012, 4:01pm

Sept 27, 2012, 3:22pm, Pea wrote:

ANYONE WHO HATES THEM IS A FUCKING IDIOT

Posted by emptyfox on Sept 27, 2012, 4:50pm

Sept 27, 2012, 3:22pm, Pea wrote:

ANYONE WHO HATES THEM IS A FUCKING IDIOT

Posted by DREW OF THE RUSHES on Sept 27, 2012, 4:53pm

Sept 27, 2012, 2:44pm, wompwomp wrote:

Sept 27, 2012, 2:26pm, Geno wrote:

[quote author=peatrick board=other thread=1612 post=133771 time=1348771609]I'm not trying to be elitist, but from what I've seen, the majority of Mumford & Sons fans are casual music listeners who just gobble up whatever is playing on top 40 radio. I REALLY don't get them. Like, at all. All of their songs sound the same and they're overall just a bland band.

But once again, you are saying it like there is something wrong with being a casual music listener who focuses on top 40, and that people who consume music in that way's opinion isn't as valid as yours.

The beautiful thing about music is that it is completely and 100% objective. There is not right way or wrong way to do music.

Here's what I can say: if you really really love Mumford and Sons, and you don't listen to much beyond top 40 hits, I'm not too interested in your opinion. That's not a VALUE judgment, just an assumption based on taste. It sounds snotty, but it goes back to a characteristic HG talks about all the time - being well-informed. It's not a taste issue, it's an information issue.

(I would probably argue that information breeds taste to a certain extent, but we won't go there yet)

Posted by NO LOVE DEEP BJORRITO on Sept 27, 2012, 4:54pm

I don't really dig LCD. I danced to it once, yes, but once in a blue moon you will catch me with an empty fifth of Jack in hand, doing an Axl Rose jig and pipin' away to 'Sweet Child O' Mine'. What I'm saying here is alcohol makes me jiggy.

I hardly "love" Massive Attack, but a good MA song really does pump my nad.

What about the Beatles? Do we have any closet Beatles haters?

Posted by DREW OF THE RUSHES on Sept 27, 2012, 4:54pm

BTW - Not trying to have an argument with anybody

Posted by DREW OF THE RUSHES on Sept 27, 2012, 4:54pm

Yeah, WHO HERE HATES THE BEATLES!?!?

Posted by NO LOVE DEEP BJORRITO on Sept 27, 2012, 4:57pm

If I hated the Beatles I wouldn't talk about it.

Posted by DREW OF THE RUSHES on Sept 27, 2012, 5:02pm

I always used to say that if you feel anything but awe towards the Beatles, you just haven't listened to them enough. I'm listening to the Hunter Davies biography right now and I'm so totally engrossed. Stranger than fiction, man.

Posted by stamper on Sept 27, 2012, 5:55pm

Sept 27, 2012, 4:54pm, DREW OF THE RUSHES wrote:

Yeah, WHO HERE HATES THE BEATLES!?!?

I hate the Beatles in the same sense that I hate Citizen Kane...which is to say, I don't really hate them - because I recognize how amazing and important they were, and I even enjoy most of their stuff - but I do hate having to hear about them all the time when people want to toss out 'greatest band of all time' nonsense. And for that reason, I do kinda hate them.

Posted by XhornedXgrammaX on Sept 27, 2012, 6:04pm

I don't really care about Massive Attack. I really wanted to see them out of a Geno-like sense of cultural duty, but I still missed them.

I can't sit through a whole album.

Posted by stamper on Sept 27, 2012, 6:15pm

While it saddens me to read that, it doesn't really surprise me. You don't strike me as a person who was ever much for the Trip Hop movement of the 90s. Personally, Blue Lines and Mezzanine are two of the finest albums from that entire decade, regardless of genre.

Posted by stamper on Sept 27, 2012, 6:43pm

ahhhh.... Mod error. feel free to do that again, Stormy

my bad.

Posted by XhornedXgrammaX on Sept 27, 2012, 6:46pm

Sept 27, 2012, 6:15pm, stamper wrote:

Yeah, it wasn't really my bag at the time. I got to the point, eventually, where I really enjoy like Portishead or whatever, but Massive Attack never really clicked with me in any significant way. Except for 'Pray for Rain', but that was well after the fact.

As far as the Beatles are concerned (or Citizen Kane, for that matter), the level of regard is due almost entirely to the impact they had on their respective mediums. One might argue that if the Beatles hadn't established what is possible in terms of using the recording studio as an instrument and the potential of the album format for cohesive expressions of art (or, in the case of Kane, the notion of non-linear storytelling and the potential for cinematography to build and enhance character and story) then someone else would have, but the fact is that they didn't.

I'll argue until I'm blue in the face that The Godfather, Part II is a better film than Orson Welles ever made, but as far as I'm concerned the place that the Beatles hold in the history of popular music is carved into stone -- damn near holy.

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