Oooh and I forgot the best part of my iPod/Macklemore story. So all iPhones were on Macklemore and I was like "fuck this overcrowded Macklemore business" and decided to drive to the suburbs to replace my broken iPod. When I finally got to the service desk, I was asked to relinquish my iPod to a sweet young woman who was about my age, and she had to go through routine troubleshooting. This involed pressing play to test the audio. The last album playing was NO LOVE DEEP WEB. She definitely saw it.
I think Burrito said it best -- I'm paraphrasing, but it was something like 'I wouldn't even be interested if there weren't some kind of wild card noise rock element in there.'
I'm not big on hip-hop. Jay-Z is useless to me, I'm not interested in Kanye, I never had a Dre or a Snoop phase. I dig the weirdos, same as with any other kind of music. I dig DOOM, Doseone, Death Grips... so rappers that start with a D I guess is what I'm sayin'.
That they are. I met Jel a few years back when they were touring with.......cant remember the name. Was about 5/6 years ago, full band with Doseone and Jel opening for Minus The Bear. Anywho, cool ass dude!
That was probably Subtle, which is even sweeter than Themselves.
Correct.
Also, the nut jocking of Death Grips is getting a tad bit out of control around here.
If you take away Macklemore's lyrical directness (his best or worst quality depending on who you talk to), he sounds like pretty much every other socially conscious white backpack rapper of the last couple decades. Some of his songs sound silly like Mac Miller and some sound serious like Atmosphere.
I'm not trying to insult him or anything, but his sound is hardly revolutionary.
I'll get all deep, Macklemore style.
I'm not extremely impressed with his flow or lyrics, but Hip hop is as much image as talent. While most artists try to portray themselves as "hard," Macklemore is basically portraying himself as soft. He raps about feelings, and substance abuse, and sobriety, and gay rights, and all sorts of things anti hip hop. He portrays a sense of vulnarability, which is bad word in the industry. Hip Hop artists are huge role models for today's youth, and so many of them are such giant douchebags and dolts, it's about time a good guy breaks through. Even if he isn't as talented as Lil Wayne, Eminem, and Kanye, who would you rather your kid grow up idolozing? The potential is there for him to be one of the biggest forces in the game, and he likes baseball.
Plus, isn't he like really hot? I've never seen so many females at a concert.
I wouldn't argue with a single thing you said. What I would add though is that it does bug me that a lot of white middle class kids are connecting with it and feel the need to say things like "it's just nice to have a rapper that addresses real issues!" I don't mean to dismiss the fact that his music resonates with their experiences but I get really annoyed that they completely discredit other rappers because of this. I understand that a white middle class kid from Ballard isn't ever going to relate to Tupac or Kendrick Lamar the same way that a kid from Compton can but I don't appreciate that they feel the need to denigrate their experiences as "not being real".
I know that a lot of rap that non-listeners are exposed to is simply the shit that gets played on the radio and that they don't know better but it still drives me insane. I understand that this shouldn't impact my feelings about the music but I can't let it go.
It doesn't matter anyway, I'm clearly not his target audience. I wouldn't dare knock his charisma but otherwise I think he's a pretty bland rapper.
Edit: None of that was aimed at you Wonk, your points are all completely fair. It was aimed at Reddit more than anything. I made the mistake of checking out his AMA over there and the praise being thrown on him was disturbing
Does anyone here listen to Jedi Mind Tricks or Army of the Pharaohs? A bunch of kids on the metal forums used to love those guys because they were huge metal heads in addition to being rappers. I listened to them for a bit out of curiosity, but I can't remember if I really dug them or not.
Does anyone here listen to Jedi Mind Tricks or Army of the Pharaohs? A bunch of kids on the metal forums used to love those guys because they were huge metal heads in addition to being rappers. I listened to them for a bit out of curiosity, but I can't remember if I really dug them or not.
I kinda like Jedi Mind Tricks. Don't really hate em or love em.
I wouldn't argue with a single thing you said. What I would add though is that it does bug me that a lot of white middle class kids are connecting with it and feel the need to say things like "it's just nice to have a rapper that addresses real issues!" I don't mean to dismiss the fact that his music resonates with their experiences but I get really annoyed that they completely discredit other rappers because of this. I understand that a white middle class kid from Ballard isn't ever going to relate to Tupac or Kendrick Lamar the same way that a kid from Compton can but I don't appreciate that they feel the need to denigrate their experiences as "not being real".
I think it's fair to say we are two of the biggest rap fans on this board, and we seek out all types of hip hop, and we are also white middle class kids. How many white middle class kids really like rap? That is part of your distaste, and I agree. Should white middle class kids branch out in their hip hop listenings, sure, but how many actually do?
Macklemore hitting home with the white middle class is what makes his potential so giant. What if you're gay, or don't beat people up, or don't glorify drugs, or don't objectify women, who should you relate to? That amazing lyricist who glorifies violence, or the guy who says it's okay to be corny, gay, or emotional? It's a similar argument to why radio rock fans don't branch out beyond what all their friends are listening to. In general, all of us here branch out on many levels, and it's why we have a lesser opinion of the uninformed. It's annoying if they only like Macklemore because they think he speaks to their tribulations, but a lot of them are uninformed to begin with. We don't need to beat that horse anymore.
Hip hop is as much image as talent. While most artists try to portray themselves as "hard," Macklemore is basically portraying himself as soft. He raps about feelings, and substance abuse, and sobriety, and gay rights, and all sorts of things anti hip hop. He portrays a sense of vulnarability, which is bad word in the industry.
Plus, isn't he like really hot? I've never seen so many females at a concert.
So basically he's become what Kid Cudi was about to become right before Kid Cudi freaked the fuck out on liquid cocaine and beat down his girlfriend's door.
Success. We have isolated exactly what it is about Macklemore that I don't like.
That was probably Subtle, which is even sweeter than Themselves.
Correct.
Also, the nut jocking of Death Grips is getting a tad bit out of control around here.
Death Grips is seriously one of the most unique and exciting new acts I've heard in the last five years, at least. They can jock my nuts all the way to the bank.
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