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Re: Coachella 2013
« Reply #795 on Dec 14, 2012, 10:08pm »		[Quote]
I used to hate when I was wrong about something, until I realized that I'm almost always wrong. But I'm wrong with panache, and that counts for something. If people with my sensibilities were the majority, I would have been entirely correct. But my concept of popular music is so entirely backwards by this point in my life that usually the exact opposite of what I say is what the case actually is.

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Re: Coachella 2013
« Reply #796 on Dec 14, 2012, 11:10pm »		[Quote]

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Whatever, I'm not defending myself for being absolutely fucking geeked about seeing my all time favorite band at my favorite festival in the world. This is going to be fucking AWESOME.


Amen.

While the Stones aren't my ALL TIME favorite band, they are still way up there. Like way up there. I'm more jazzed about the possibility of seeing the Stones at Coachella than I have ever been for any one band playing at any one festival I have ever attended. It doesn't matter that these guys are all decades beyond their prime, it's still the fucking STONES! I can't wait.

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« Reply #797 on Dec 14, 2012, 11:16pm »		[Quote]
I'm cool with the Rolling Stones as long as the Rolling Stoner is also there.
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Dec 14, 2012, 8:13pm, XhornedXgrammaX wrote:
Which I guess makes them a perfect fit for Coachella, the world's premiere fashion show/beer garden/food court/open air drug market/status symbol that also happens to feature musical performances.


This is just lazy and uninformed. You're better than that.
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Re: Coachella 2013
« Reply #799 on Dec 14, 2012, 11:32pm »		[Quote]
Warning: This will probably read as an "I told you so," and it is.

Further babble about the Rolling Stones. Pea texted me a week ago wondering who I thought who headline Coachella, so I've been thinking about this for a full week. My reply was the Rolling Stones, because it's the only chance Coachella will ever have to land them. Then they could save money on the other headliners by giving those slots to Mumfords and Bjork. Since then, I've read several comments on the Coachella board about how the Rolling Stones won't be there because it doesn't make sense to blow 20% of your budget on one act, and the festival will sell out anyway.

Business strategy involves knowing where you are at, and where you are going. If the goal is to sell out a festival, like many assume, it makes no sense to pay the Rolling Stones to headline. If the goal is to be the greatest music festival in the world, you pay the Rolling Stones to headline. There is a bit of ego involved, and a cash payout as well. I can guarantee Coachella has a five year plan, because that is how you make a successful business grow. It's way too easy to get caught up in status quo.

With that said, Coachella already has a reputation in the states as being the festival who pays bands to reunite, and the festival with the occasional rare headliner. Sure, everyone gets the recycled headliners like Radiohead, and the newest popular Black Keys/Kings Of Leon type band, but Coachella is getting names like Paul McCartney, Prince, Dre & Snoop, and (maybe) the Rolling Stones. You don't see those names often at other major festivals. "Remember when we landed the Rolling Stones" would be a high five haven in the Goldenvoice headquarters for the next decade. It will also help guarantee the festival continues to sell out regardless of the lineup for several years. They don't need the Rolling Stones, but continually delivering an amazing lineup to the regulars is a very good idea. Didn't Glasto sell out in a second without a lineup? It's not because they give headlining slots to Muse, the Killers, and Kings of Leon every year.

To be continued, because I have another 15 points on why this should happen.
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« Reply #800 on Dec 15, 2012, 1:43pm »		[Quote]
I love you, HG but I think you’re getting caught up in the gears. Or as my mother would say, “You are stuck in the mustard and you can’t ketchup!” (Seriously.) A classic artist like The Stones relevancy is not dependent on the amount or even the quality of their most recent albums. All of the greatest, most recognizable artists of that time (commercially successful in the 1960s) are “passed their prime” but something that those artists generally had are: talent, dynamic stage performance and the ability to make you feel like you are a part of something bigger than yourself. I can’t think have many artists that have been pinpointed in modern music for have those same qualities. To see a musician of that time doing what they are known for in the way that made them famous is special.

FD and I got to see Stevie Wonder in August and it was incredible. There is no doubt about the fact that Stevie Wonder is past his prime. He’s not the thin, fresh faced savant that he was when he started. He wasn’t razor sharp on all of his cues. But he played what he wanted to play and it was amazing because it was a great artist being authentic to himself. He hasn’t put out an album since 2005, before that it was 1997 and neither of those could be considered classics (The Stones discography looks similar, by the way), but the point for me was that we were seeing a modern master at work. And surprising – he STILL has all of the dynamics and excitement that most anyone from that generation of artists likely will – just in an older body.

The songs he wrote mean something to each of us that were there together. And isn’t that really what it is about anyway? It’s not about an artist like that continually being prolific into old age but the fact that the songs they have already written have inspired people, or were your parents “first dance song” and are classics and have a deeper meaning? Tell me that hearing those songs right out of the original person’s mouth doesn’t make the experience more profound. For me, seeing any artist that has been a favorite for family generations (and these kinds of artists often are) is special and significant.

Trust me, I have a whole host of problems with the Rolling Stones and my all time favorite song by them is a cover of “Down Home Girl” by The Coasters, but that doesn’t make me any less excited to be transported into another time where rock n’ roll theatrics were small but effective. That doesn’t make me any less excited to sing along with Stamper and scream with Womp. Or to see Mick Jagger do his signature Mick Jagger moves and get sentimental to “Midnight Mile” live with FD after having heard it pump out of his car speakers over and over. I think an artist is only “past their prime” if the music loses complete meaning and I don’t think that’s the case for most people regarding most songs of The Beatles, Stevie Wonder, Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, or The Stones.


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Dec 14, 2012, 8:13pm, XhornedXgrammaX wrote:
Which I guess makes them a perfect fit for Coachella, the world's premiere fashion show/beer garden/food court/open air drug market/status symbol that also happens to feature musical performances.


This is just lazy and uninformed. You're better than that.


And lastly, I’m going to have to agree. I know I have been in over-the-top support of Coachella and the Coachella experience for the better portion of a year but you won’t get it until you go and since you haven’t gone, it comes off “lazy, uninformed” and also a little like petty jealousy. And you are better than that.
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Re: Coachella 2013
« Reply #801 on Dec 15, 2012, 1:58pm »		[Quote]
I'm feeling petty and jealous, generally irritable, sad, angry, frustrated and weary just lately. I knew I was making lazy and uninformed statements, but on this day of this week of this year, I don't care. I'm not going to be backed into the apology corner over the fucking Stones. Those songs were never about unity and love and whatever, like Stevie Wonder or the Beatles. The Stones never had the virtuosic musicianship of Floyd or Zeppelin.

My favorite quote from Mick Jagger? Every song I've ever written is designed to cause young people to want to have sex. If we're talking about the point where music completely loses its meaning? I believe that hearing a seventy year old man sing 'Let's spend the night together' definitely slips in under the wire.
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« Reply #802 on Dec 15, 2012, 2:02pm »		[Quote]
so guys do you think Radiohead will be there???
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Dec 15, 2012, 1:58pm, XhornedXgrammaX wrote:
I'm feeling petty and jealous, generally irritable, sad, angry, frustrated and weary just lately. I knew I was making lazy and uninformed statements, but on this day of this week of this year, I don't care. I'm not going to be backed into the apology corner over the fucking Stones. Those songs were never about unity and love and whatever, like Stevie Wonder or the Beatles. The Stones never had the virtuosic musicianship of Floyd or Zeppelin.

My favorite quote from Mick Jagger? Every song I've ever written is designed to cause young people to want to have sex. If we're talking about the point where music completely loses its meaning? I believe that hearing a seventy year old man sing 'Let's spend the night together' definitely slips in under the wire.


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« Reply #804 on Dec 15, 2012, 3:54pm »		[Quote]

Dec 15, 2012, 1:58pm, XhornedXgrammaX wrote:
My favorite quote from Mick Jagger? Every song I've ever written is designed to cause young people to want to have sex. If we're talking about the point where music completely loses its meaning? I believe that hearing a seventy year old man sing 'Let's spend the night together' definitely slips in under the wire.


This is exactly how I feel. I LOVE (LOVE!) the Stones' music, but have passed on seeing them a few times and still haven't checked out Scorsese's Shine A Light. Not seeing them live was also partly due to the insane ticket costs.

Getting them at a festival kinda feels like a freebie so I'm definitely interested and excited to, if nothing else, hear Keith's one of a kind guitar tunings on a song like "Beast of Burden" ring out amongst a gajillion (sp?) people with my very own earballs.
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Dec 15, 2012, 1:58pm, XhornedXgrammaX wrote:
IThose songs were never about unity and love and whatever, like Stevie Wonder or the Beatles.


Exactly. Two completely different animals.

Also my favorite quote in a long while and a good possible epitaph,


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I'm not going to be backed into the apology corner over the fucking Stones.


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« Reply #806 on Dec 15, 2012, 4:08pm »		[Quote]
Don't get me wrong, folks, if I were at a festival and the Rolling Stones were playing? It's not like I'd be watching Com Truise or something. You know I'd be up in that shit. Half of my interest in any single artist, though, is attributable to their cultural context -- a factor which tipped against the Rolling Stones decades ago. And the way I approach ANY band involves considering their entire career -- everything they ever sang, said or did -- as a single, all-inclusive artistic statement. That's why I love the Beatles (and the Residents), and it's why I have no use for the Rolling Stones. So, like, I'm not going to be crossing my fingers going PLZ STONES PLZ STONES C'MOOOOOOON STONES!, and I'm not going to lose bladder control when they are announced.

Also: those of you familiar with my theory involving a Ween/Sonic Youth meridian may know that that notion is based on the well-established Beatles/Stones meridian. Folks will generally love one, but not both, and usually will have pretty limited interest in the one they don't love.
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« Reply #807 on Dec 15, 2012, 4:10pm »		[Quote]
Truth time: this all boils down to the fact that you guys are going to get to hear 'You Can't Always Get What You Want' live, and I hate you all for it.

If they end up playing 'I've Got the Blues' (which seems unlikely), I am going to delete the whole fucking board out of spite. So if that happens, please don't mention it.
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If they end up playing 'I've Got the Blues' (which seems unlikely), I am going to delete the whole fucking board out of spite. So if that happens, please don't mention it.


I'm expecting that along with a full run through of Sticky Fingers. Also that Bill Wyman and Mick Taylor will be there for the whole show.
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« Reply #809 on Dec 15, 2012, 4:19pm »		[Quote]
Also that Keith's chest cavity won't burst open, expelling a cloud of blowflys.

Sticky Fingers is certainly somewhere in the top half of my 50 Favorite Albums of All Time list.
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