Re: Flying Lotus « Reply #31 on Feb 23, 2011, 1:28pm »
I wanna go back a little ways and say that I do NOT regard Flying Lotus' influence on Thom Yorke to be a positive one. The progressively mellow nature of the second phase of Radiohead's career suits me just fine - the downtempo numbers have always been my favorites (Exit Music, Bullet Proof, Talk Show Host, How to Disappear, Nude, the list goes on) but the brilliance of OKC, Kid A and about half of The Bends was how they used traditional rock instrumentation in a way that sounded almost mechanical.
Just like Brian Eno's studio work in the 80's, it isn't that the material is any better or worse, but the ability to produce those otherworldy sounds became much easier and so required less work - and less imagination.
The idea of "background music" never made sense to me. I like being enveloped by the music I listen to, not just...in the same room as it.
See, I don't feel this way -- and I don't feel the same way as you do about 'hooks' either. I'm a huge fan of ambient music (again, the Eno) but Flying Lotus' material seems to be... well, lazy. Like he's relying on the substances people use to meet him much more than halfway.
Ah well I suppose you found a flaw in my reasoning then because I'm a huge Eno and all around ambient fan. Although, I consider listening to ambient music to be a completely different auditory experience altogether.
Ah well I suppose you found a flaw in my reasoning then because I'm a huge Eno and all around ambient fan. Although, I consider listening to ambient music to be a completely different auditory experience altogether.
Eno's whole philosophy regarding ambient music was that it should enhance the atmosphere of a room without dominating it, or - ideally - really even being noticeable. Which is how I hear people describing their appreciation for Flying Lotus -- which is why I'm willing to come back to it (again; I've tried seven times now, which is just a little more than half of the 12 required listens I give any record before writing it off completely).
Granted, I wouldn't ride the bus across town listening to 'Discreet Music', but that record is completely formless - I usually bust it out when I have a migraine and that's about it. Eno's stuff with Robert Fripp seems to be an ancestor of Cosmogramma ; No Pussyfooting and Evening Star are definitely more tangible. If something like that is buried under the coma beats on the FlyLo disc, I wanna know about it.
Re: Flying Lotus « Reply #37 on Feb 23, 2011, 1:51pm »
after reading 2 pages of discussion.. let me just clarify that flylo live sets lean more to the danceable than his albums. abelton edits, live drum programming, etc. he doesn't exactly just stand there & play stoner hip hop beats for an hour
Re: Flying Lotus « Reply #38 on Feb 23, 2011, 1:59pm »
You can do some amazing stuff with Ableton Live. The Residents current tour almost completely relies on it - instrumentation consists of one Resident running Ableton on a Mac and a man named Nolan Cook on guitar, and it is incredible.
Re: Flying Lotus « Reply #39 on Feb 23, 2011, 3:25pm »
Ok definitely catching a few more subtleties this time through Cosmogramma. I'm still wildly bored, though I can see potential for some interesting expansion in a live setting.
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